James, I note that you referred to the SC/GA Shuman line. I have not been able to determine when Martin Henry Shuman came over, and into what port. Also, did he have any other kin that came over with him? I have assumed he came to Philly. Any input would be a help. Thanks. Bonnie Carn James Shuman wrote: > Ann H. Mack" <ahmack@redshift.com> wrote: > > >James, > >I see you have found the "Brethern List", a really active one > >and well researched.... > > Actually, I've been a member of that List since its early days On the > Maiser List at Indiana University. That's probably 4 or 5 years ago. I > would agree that much of the success of that List is that it includes > several "retired" historians, and others who are active in posting > information. > > Also interesting is the inter-relationship my branch of the SHUMAN family > has had with Brethren people. So far as is known, the SHUMANs were > Methodist in WV and IN, from early 1800s to 1860s. But at the three > locations we have for them, there were Brethren people living nearby. > Finally, in the 4th generation, one of the Shumans became a "Dunkard," and > then several more from the one family from which I descend joined the > Brethren. Most of the others have remained with the mainline churches, such > as Methodist, Christian, etc. > > but I still want to find a "Shuman" family > >that would name a child born c. 1812 "James", not a popular > >name...and that this child went to IL, seemingly by himself, > >c. 1830 to marry a very Roman Catholic Irish lass, Mary > >Annie Riney. Then off they go to MO, where lots of descendants > >still exist...??? Any clues for the millennium? > >In all good spirits...Ann in Carmel, CA > > > > > Of course, I have to take exception to your statement that "James" was/is > not a popular name <g>. In the John Shuman branch especially, ALL J-names > were popular. And there were James W, James M. and James A. all born before > 1830. > > Now, as to going to IL by himself at age 18, I would dare say that such > exploratory trips were not unusual for young men who felt the itch to be > part of that great westward movement of the time (notice he didn't stop > until he got to MO <g>). > > And if he was "rootless" (i.e., went to IL without close family), then it > might not have mattered much to him what the denomination of his future > wife was. > > Now, your real question is: Where did this James come from? We must bear in > mind that there were more than a dozen different immigrations of Shumans > into the PA area during the period 1730-1770, and by the turn of the > century, quite a few of them (or their descendants) had already migrated > westward and southward. In addition, we have at least one prominent family > in the NC/GA area by the late 1700s who has been difficult to trace farther > back. > > By 1812, several Shumans have been found in OH, and perhaps a few in KY > and/or TN. I believe that our task in the next millennium is going to be to > help sort out which of our present lines traces back to which of those > early immigrants. Those of us who are "stuck" around the late 1700s or > early 1800s need to keep our attention focussed on these areas and watch > for/help in finding new discoveries concerning the SHUMAN families. > > Best Regards! > > JS > > ____________________________ > James Shuman, art instructor > Modesto High School > jshuman@telis.org > ____________________________ > > ==== SHUMAN Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > This is the SHUMAN Discussion List > You can check the Rootsweb Archives at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=SHUMAN > for past messages posted to this list > -----------------