I have been searching for a Ruel Shuman for some time in the GA. area. Several recent messages have alluded to a book by Carolyn Jarrard. How can I find out if this is my wifes line and were to obtain one of these books. Any help is greatly appreciated. Shaun.

At 05:46 PM 11/24/1999 -0800, you wrote: >It seems that my ancestor William Henry Shuman (b.1780 d. 1806) may have >been married to Martha Sheffield.(?). Do you know if that is correct, >and if so is William Henry Shuman (b.1805) from that union? Thanks, >Bonnie Shuman Carn >ps Will send my info when I find the missing link. Bonnie, According to the Shuman History (included in the "Bashlor Family History") compiled by Carolyn Jarrard (and others), William Henry Shuman (son of Martin Henry Shuman)married Mary Ann Bridges and THEY had William Henry Shuman (b 1805) who married Martha Sheffield. THIS Martha Sheffield was dau of John Sheffield and Martha Harvey. John Sheffield was son of William Sheffield and Mary ?....William Sheffield was son of John Sheffield and Mary ? Martha Harvey was dau of Richard Harvey and Elizabeth Morrell. Another Martha Sheffield (dau of same William Sheffield & Mary ? above) married David Groover about 1799 (she was born ~1779 in Duplin Co NC). Please note that this is NOT my research but that of Carolyn Jarrard (on this list) and others. They can fill in details better than me. On another note, there was a Sheffield family in Screven County GA where I grew up...the elder man was John Sheffield and he had at least 4 sons that I know of (Emory Lee, Brooks, Wade, Edward). John Sheffield would have been born approx. 1890's, I'd guess, since Emory Lee would have been born about 1910-1914 (a contemporary of my father). Best regards, Bill Ansley --- mailto:bba@ansley-family-assn.org http://www.ansley-family-assn.org

BC, I am in the Shuman line from Effingham Co. After the weekend I would like to take the time to share notes. I have 3 Thanksgiving dinners today thru Sunday, 2 of which I am cooking. So I will be quite busy until then. But I do want to share notes. I am specifically interested in Elizabeth Shuman of Effingham Co. who married Shadrack Inman and later William Womack. Elizabeth was a daughter of Martin Henry Shuman. With Regards, Linda Snow Davis

jr, This William Shuman was in Bryan county Georgia. Sorry! bc jr wrote: > I am very interested in your post - my ggggrandfather was a William Shuman > from Pennsylvania. I believe I have found him on the 1850 Census in Pine > Twp, Indiana County, Pennsylvania. On that census it listed his age as 41 - > but this sounds close. Any other info you can find would be greatly > appreciated. > > Wendy Stophel Ridgway > > Bonnie Carn wrote: > > > It seems that my ancestor William Henry Shuman (b.1780 d. 1806) may have > > been married to Martha Sheffield.(?). Do you know if that is correct, > > and if so is William Henry Shuman (b.1805) from that union? Thanks, > > Bonnie Shuman Carn > > ps Will send my info when I find the missing link. > > > > ==== SHUMAN Mailing List ==== > > ----------------- > > This is a discussion area for anyone > > who has an interest in genealogy or history > > related to the SHUMAN family > > The custodian of this List is James Shuman > > jshuman@telis.org > > ----------------- > > ==== SHUMAN Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > This is the SHUMAN Discussion List > You can check the Rootsweb Archives at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=SHUMAN > for past messages posted to this list > -----------------

James, William was the son of Martin Henry Shuman in Bryan/Effingham counties Georgia. bc James Shuman wrote: > Bonnie, > > Do you know which state this was in? > > Thanks, > > JS > > >It seems that my ancestor William Henry Shuman (b.1780 d. 1806) may have > >been married to Martha Sheffield.(?). Do you know if that is correct, > >and if so is William Henry Shuman (b.1805) from that union? Thanks, > >Bonnie Shuman Carn > >ps Will send my info when I find the missing link. > > > > _______________________________________________ > James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator > The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org > http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ > _______________________________________________ > > > > ==== SHUMAN Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > This is a discussion area for anyone > who has an interest in SHUMAN genealogy or history > You can also > visit the SHUMAN Web Site at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~shuman/welcome.html > -----------------

I am very interested in your post - my ggggrandfather was a William Shuman from Pennsylvania. I believe I have found him on the 1850 Census in Pine Twp, Indiana County, Pennsylvania. On that census it listed his age as 41 - but this sounds close. Any other info you can find would be greatly appreciated. Wendy Stophel Ridgway Bonnie Carn wrote: > It seems that my ancestor William Henry Shuman (b.1780 d. 1806) may have > been married to Martha Sheffield.(?). Do you know if that is correct, > and if so is William Henry Shuman (b.1805) from that union? Thanks, > Bonnie Shuman Carn > ps Will send my info when I find the missing link. > > ==== SHUMAN Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > This is a discussion area for anyone > who has an interest in genealogy or history > related to the SHUMAN family > The custodian of this List is James Shuman > jshuman@telis.org > -----------------

Bonnie, Do you know which state this was in? Thanks, JS >It seems that my ancestor William Henry Shuman (b.1780 d. 1806) may have >been married to Martha Sheffield.(?). Do you know if that is correct, >and if so is William Henry Shuman (b.1805) from that union? Thanks, >Bonnie Shuman Carn >ps Will send my info when I find the missing link. > _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

It seems that my ancestor William Henry Shuman (b.1780 d. 1806) may have been married to Martha Sheffield.(?). Do you know if that is correct, and if so is William Henry Shuman (b.1805) from that union? Thanks, Bonnie Shuman Carn ps Will send my info when I find the missing link.

This message was posted to our Queries Board: --- NAME: Ron Tramm EMAIL: BeavrC2497@aol.com DATE: Nov 22 1999 URL: http:// QRYTEXT: I am looking for any information on Elmer or parents. Elmer was born in Iowa in 1898 His mothers name was Ella Caroline (nee unknown) and his fathers name was James. Ella Remarried and moved to Missouri and thats where I lose track of her. Elmer was married twice that I know of his last wife Teckla was my grandmother. His first wifes name is Catherine Elizabeth(nee unknown) of Massachusetts. Any information will be helpful.. I don't believe that Ron is a member of our Discussion List, so don't reply here. You can visit the Message Boards by going to: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Shuman> Regards! JS

Cousins, I have been in correspondence with a family who are seeking help in locating two generations of their family, so this may be a "toughie." Here is what little they know, or think they know. At one point, the wife said in frustration, "Most of what we know could all be a big lie." Louise Shuman was born around 1875 give or take a few years, in Canada, they think. She married Henry Murrell, and they had a son George born around 1902. Her last known address was Massachusetts; George was *probably* born in either Massachusetts or Vermont. Does anyone have any ideas on how they might go about trying to find George, Louise and henry? Regards! JS _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

Richard Lentz <rlentz@gate.net> wrote: >On Eclectic Artist for Philip SHUMAN and Henry SHUMAN, probable brothers >of John SHUMAN, you've listed a son Levi SHUMAN b. ca. 1809, md. >25Aug1825 to Sarah KENDALL. Obviously he can't be both their sons. Do >you know at this point which is correct? >Richard. > > The page <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~shuman/philip1.html> is incorrect, and will be updated shortly. It still follows the information in the Norman F. Kendall book, which is erroneous in a number of instances regarding the SHUMAN line. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Thanks also to Ron Sapp and others who have helped me with the information on both Henry's and Philip's lines. What I have is now much more complete. It was HENRY who had a son Levi, but PHILIP had a grandson Levi. I am, of course, always ready to receive more information, or, as in this case, comments regarding an obvious error in the data. Thanks, again! JS _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

James Shuman, On Eclectic Artist for Philip SHUMAN and Henry SHUMAN, probable brothers of John SHUMAN, you've listed a son Levi SHUMAN b. ca. 1809, md. 25Aug1825 to Sarah KENDALL. Obviously he can't be both their sons. Do you know at this point which is correct? Richard.

This gentleman does not appear to fit into "my" group but perhaps someone else can claim him. Nancy > Nancy: following is typed from the actual article taken from the Dispatch, > which included photo. Hope it helps. > JAMES ALFRED 'AL' SHUMAN > Real Estate Man Dies On Vacation in Mexico > James Alfred (Al) Shuman, 48, of 2177 Oakmount Rd., associated in Shuman > & Sorrell Real Estate, 909 Oakland Park Ave., died unexpectedly Thurs while > vacationing in Acapulco, Mexico. > Mr. Shuman was taken to an Acapulco hospital Wed and apperantly died > from internal bleeding. He had been suffering from a gall bladder condition. > Mr. Shuman was one of the originators with Sam Nicola of the Touchdown > Club. > A vetern of World War II, he was a member of Masonice Orders, Scottish > Rite and Shrine, Brookside Country Club, Columbus Athletic Club, Columbus > Real Estate Board, the Ohio Home Builders Accociation, the Moose and Elks. > He was the son of the late James F. Shuman, founder of the old James F. > Shuman & Co. The firm developed several real estate subdivisions, including > Weldon Park, Grasmere Gardens and Kenmore Knolls. > SURVIVING ARE his wife, Bette; a son, James F. II; a daughter, Mrs. > Nancy L. Stepp; his mother, Mrs. Bertha Shuman of Cincinnati; and a > grandson. > Glen L. Meyers funeral home, 34 W. 2nd Ave., will complete arrangements. > The funeral will be private. > :) Max. > ---------- > From: Nancy <n147@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > To: "Max." <maxstill@eurekanet.com> > Subject: Re: Obits Columbus Dispatch, etc. > Date: Wed, Nov 10, 1999, 11:38 PM > Max. wrote: > > > > Dear Listers: having recently lost Daddy & going thru his stuff, I have run > > across obits for people located in the Columbus, OH area posted in the > > Columbus Dispatch & other small area papers. > > Hopefully this info will help somebody who is searching for their loved >one, > > but will only include vital info. > > Arms, Ralph A age 64 died 29 Oct 1992 > > Becker, William F age 60 posted 10 Jul 1965 > > Buzby, William L "Bill" age 61 died 30 Aug 1995 > > Caulley, Charles J age 62 died 16 Jan 1994 > > Caulley, Lois J age 65 died 16 Jan 1994 > > Chaffin, Elizabeth E "Betty" age 73 died 21 Feb 1998 > > Coen, Ronald L age 24 posted 21 ? 1994 > > Cruse, Charles W Jr age 73 died 18 Jun 1997 > > Dallas, Anna M age 82 died 4 Jul 1996 > > Ford, Evelyn Sue "Princess" age 66 died 14 Aug 1995 > > Hampshire, Elizabeth "Libby" age 69 no date posted > > Harris, Geraldine C age 92 died 20 Feb 1998 > > Hart, David L age 67 died 7 Apr 197 > > Kaiser, Walter "Walt" age 73 died 18 Apr 1998 > > Lewis, John M age 73 died 28 Nov 1998 > > Long, Shorty age 71 posted 12 May 1997 > > Martin, Judge Thomas V age 62 died 23 Jun 1998 > > Pfau, Richard Olin age 59 posted Feb 196 > > Pfeifer, Col robert B age 69 died 18 Jul 1995 > > Sawyer, Rosa Bell age 74 died 8 Mar 1999 > > Schlaechter, Phyllis J (Sadie) posted 29 Mar 1997 > > Schirtzinger, Arnold H age 69 posted 2 Feb 1992 > > Shuman, James A age 48 (no posting date, but article is very yellow with > > age) > > Sweetman, J W "Bill" age 81 died 3 Feb 1997 > > Vollmuth, Raymond age 73 died 8 Oct 1996 > > Wagner, Harvey G age 87 died 20 Aug 1993 > > Wedemeyer, Charles "Wed" J age 68 posted 27 May 1993 > > Woodland, Donald L age 63 died 13 Jan 1994 (OSU Football Coach) > > > > Celebrating 50th Anniversary: Walter & Jean (Reeb) Kaiser posted Aug 1996 > > > > You may contact me for more detailed info: > > MaxStill@eurekanet.com > > > > :) Max. > > > > ==== OH-FOOTSTEPS Mailing List ==== > > This is for archive material only, no queries! > > Ohio PawPrints, untouched by human hands > Thanks for your posting! I know there has to be more than one James A > Shuman floating around Ohio who died at age 48 but would really > appreciate the info from the obit you have. > Thanks, > Nancy

----- Original Message ----- From: christina m hursh <frog158@juno.com> To: <OH-FOOTSTEPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 4:29 PM Subject: Miami Co. misc death records 1893-1894 - letter S > NOTE: There is a column for the place of birth, but the photocopy that I > have is very shadowed on that column so I can only read a few of the > listings. > > > SALMON, Clara (F) 9/25/1893; married; age 26y; pod: Bethel twp > SHAFER, Wm. W. (M) 5/6/1893; married; age 32y; pod: Bethel twp > SPICER, Edward T./F. (M) 6/4/1893; married; age 67y; pod: Bethel (looks > like it says Brandt afterwards in parenthese) > SAUER(?), Margaret (F) 3/8/1894; widow; age 77/79y; pod: Brandt > SANDERS, Harriet (F) 5/27/1893; single; age 68y9m10d; pod: [faded - maybe > Conover] > SMITH, Mary (F) 11/17/1893; widow; age78(?)y2m22d, pod: [faded] > S_OUPP, Clara(?) M. (F) 9/3/1893; single; age 23y9m14d; pod: [faded - > maybe Concord]; pob: Lost Creek > STITH, Sarah (F) 1/18/1894; married; age: 48y; pod: [faded - maybe > Condord]; pob: Penn. > SHUE, Christina (F) 6/20/1893; married; age:60y2m18d; pod: [faded - > maybe Concord]; pob: Penn. > STARRY, Bessie (F) 2/21/1894; single; age: 17y7m21d; pod: Lost Creek; > pob: Lost Creek > SMITH, Thomas (M) Dec 1893; married; age: 32y; pod: Lost Creek; pob: > Wilmington > SMITH, Catherine (F) 11/9/1893; widow; age 80y; pod: Lost Creek; pob: > _.S. > SCHNEIDER, Jospeh (M) 11/10/1893; widow; age 70y8m7d; pod: Tippecanoe; > pob: Germany > SHOEMAKER, Wm (M) 12/15/1893; married; age 39y8m25d; pod: Tippecanoe; > pob: OH > SMITH, Thomas (M) 6/1/1893; married; age 80y; pod: Tippecanoe; pob: > England > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. >

Ancestry.com has Fayette County Vital Records 1750-1890 free today. I visited http://ancestry.com/ancestry/search/4112.htm and found the following: Fayette County, Pennsylvania Vital Records, 1750-1890 Name: Fidler, Thomas Birth Date: 1804 Birth Place: Bedford co., PA Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse: Rebecca Shuman Marriage Date: 1825 Marriage Place: Knox co., OH Children: Arminda, Marinda, Emily, Louis, Samuel, Henry, Anna, Deliah, Hannah Date of Death: After 1889 Place of Death: Other: Name: Hellner, James Birth Date: 1777 Birth Place: North of Ireland Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse: Miss Shuman Marriage Date: 1803 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Thomas and others Date of Death: Before 1889 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Name: Hellner, Thomas Birth Date: 1806 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: James Hellner Mother's Name: Miss Shuman Spouse: Sarah Griffin Marriage Date: 1833 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Joseph and others Date of Death: Before 1889 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Name: McClay, James Birth Date: 1777 Birth Place: North of Ireland Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse: Miss Shuman Marriage Date: 1803 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Thomas and others Date of Death: Before 1889 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Name: McClay, Thomas Birth Date: 1806 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: James McClay Mother's Name: Miss Shuman Spouse: Sarah Eicher Marriage Date: 1833 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Joseph and others Date of Death: Before 1889 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: I also searched for KENDALL and found the following: Name: Franks, Michael III Birth Date: Oct 29, 1803 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: Michael Franks, Jr. Mother's Name: Amy First Spouse: Charity Kendall Marriage Date: 1829 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Isaac, Michael, Aleinda, William, John, Amedee Date of Death: Nov 26, 1879 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Name: Kells, Daniel III Birth Date: Oct 29, 1803 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: Daniel Kells, Jr. Mother's Name: Nancy First Spouse: Charity Kendall Marriage Date: 1829 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Isaac, Daniel, Laura, William, John, Amedee Date of Death: Nov 26, 1879 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Name: Kendall, Charity Birth Date: Mar 17, 1810 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse: Michael Kendall Marriage Date: 1829 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Isaac, Michael, Aleinda, William, John, Amedee Date of Death: Dec 6, 1879 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Name: Kendall, Malinda Birth Date: 1807 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: Thomas Kendall Mother's Name: Spouse: John Schnatterly Marriage Date: 1827 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Margaret, Mary, Elizabeth, Miles, John, Thomas, Lewis, and two others Date of Death: bef Place of Death: Other: Name: Schnatterly, John Jr. Birth Date: Apr 17, 1805 Birth Place: Fayette co., PA Father's Name: John Schnatterly, Sr. Mother's Name: Spouse: Malinda Kendall Marriage Date: 1827 Marriage Place: Fayette co., PA Children: Margaret, Mary, Elizabeth, Miles, John, Thomas, Lewis, and two others Date of Death: Jul 26, 1822 Place of Death: Fayette co., PA Other: Regards! JS _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

Can anyone tell me what Subdivision G or other letters mean on the 1850 census. My main ancestor names are Shuman and Crapps or Crappse or Crapse. Some say the Parish name, some say Beaufort and Subdivision + letter. Thanks, Marie

I found this site through the MID-MISSOURI GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY. It has a lot of data. Check it out. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_web.html

This Catharine is the one who is frequently listed as the siter to John Shuman of Monongalia Co, WV. You can read more about her, and my opinions regarding their probable relationship, at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~shuman/preface.html JS > In a message dated 10/25/1999 7:09:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >lmiller@worldnet.att.net writes: > >< Found this on Wetzel Co., W.Va. site. >< >< Catherine Shuman, b 1749 Germany, d 21 Apr 1821 >< m John Cunningham 5 June 1769, Philadelphia, Pa. >< >< 1.James Cunningham >< 2. Robert Cunningham >< 3. David Cunningham >< 4. Ezekiel Cunningham >< 5. John V. Cunningham >< 6. Joshua Cunningham >< 7. Elizabeth Cunningham >< >< >< Bruce -- Is this possibly your Catharina, dau. of Johan and Anna ? > > In a word, 'no'. Johann Georg and Anna Barbara were not married until 1 >November, 1757. Catharina, their first daughter, was born in Lancaster Co., >PA., not in Germany, and married Henry? GINGRICH in Lititz before 1804. They >were located in Davidson Co., TN. sometime before that date, based on the >birth of their daughter, Nancy, in that location in 1804. > > The Catharine you found, likewise, cannot be the sister of Peter Shuman, >who arrived with him at Philadelphia in 1740, since the given date of birth >follows the date of arrival by nine years. I can't rule out the possibility >that this Catharine could be a daughter of Peter, but then there are also a >large number of alternate possibilities as well. > > Thanks for the data, though. I'll keep it in my file just in case I can >later find some reference that might connect this family. > >Bruce Shuman >BAShuman@aol.com _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

In a message dated 10/25/1999 7:09:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lmiller@worldnet.att.net writes: < Found this on Wetzel Co., W.Va. site. < < Catherine Shuman, b 1749 Germany, d 21 Apr 1821 < m John Cunningham 5 June 1769, Philadelphia, Pa. < < 1.James Cunningham < 2. Robert Cunningham < 3. David Cunningham < 4. Ezekiel Cunningham < 5. John V. Cunningham < 6. Joshua Cunningham < 7. Elizabeth Cunningham < < < Bruce -- Is this possibly your Catharina, dau. of Johan and Anna ? In a word, 'no'. Johann Georg and Anna Barbara were not married until 1 November, 1757. Catharina, their first daughter, was born in Lancaster Co., PA., not in Germany, and married Henry? GINGRICH in Lititz before 1804. They were located in Davidson Co., TN. sometime before that date, based on the birth of their daughter, Nancy, in that location in 1804. The Catharine you found, likewise, cannot be the sister of Peter Shuman, who arrived with him at Philadelphia in 1740, since the given date of birth follows the date of arrival by nine years. I can't rule out the possibility that this Catharine could be a daughter of Peter, but then there are also a large number of alternate possibilities as well. Thanks for the data, though. I'll keep it in my file just in case I can later find some reference that might connect this family. Bruce Shuman BAShuman@aol.com

>But I've been wanting to share some thoughts and ideas that are >beginning to take shape, regarding John Shuman of Monongalia Co., WV. > Very interesting thoughts and ideas they are too :) >provided by the retired Lutheran minister is strikingly close to names we>already have. Bless everyone of those early ministers who kept records!! And those who translate them! >out of line. What is a much bigger problem is the name of the mother, which>is given as Catherine. Could the "circuit riding" priest who performed the >baptism simply have written the wrong name? Could be 12 yrs off. Or an Anna and a Hannah. Perhaps Anna died young? Mom's name could be Elizabeth Catherine and he used the Catherine? I've copied two churchbooks because I have so many listed there. Saves having to go back to the library when I find someone's name. Don't forget that most of the early Reformed and Lutherans were German and Swiss. Other than spellings and reversed names they've been pretty accurate. Use soundex on them LOL Some of the spelling in those old records... Or is it in the translations? You know what I mean <G> Now the census are another story <G> The birth records, one man was credited as the father of his brothers child. Wilma was originally written in as William. My father in law was listed as female. Aren't original records fun :)