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    1. Re: [SHUMAN] SHUMAN-CANTY
    2. Hi! Yes I am related to Jasper Newton Canty. He is my great-great grandfather. I am not related by Salina though. After she died, he married my great-great grandmother, Caroline Jones. Any info. you might share would be wonderful. I am trying to track my line through the Shuman's. Thanks! Jill

    02/17/2000 02:42:02
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] SHUMAN-CANTY
    2. Are you related to Jasper Newton Canty. My great grandmother was the youngest sister of Salina Shuman Canty. Marie

    02/17/2000 02:16:58
    1. [SHUMAN] SHUMAN-CANTY
    2. Hi! I have been researching the CANTY/CANTEY family that lived near the Savannah River in SC, right across from your county. My great-great grandfather, JASPER NEWTON CANTY, was married to SELINA SHUMAN. She is buried in Lebanon cemtery, near Estill,SC. Her father was JOHN B. SHUMAN. I don't have alot more info., but I am wondering if any of this rings a bell with you? I am also interested in finding out if anyone knows how I can search for JASPER NEWTON CANTY in the 1860 census. He would have been 9 or 10 at that time. Maybe living near Clyo, GA.? Any and all info. would be helpful. Jill Powell

    02/16/2000 09:45:39
    1. [SHUMAN] Re: Coat of Arms
    2. James Shuman
    3. Chris Bowen <cbowen@flanet.com> asked for some clarification regarding the differences between British and German heraldry. I'm not an expert, but I'll offer what I have, and others are invited to add/correct it: >The coat of arms as I understand it began in England in 1500's during time >of war, the shield was decorated in a particular fashion to let the other >warring faction recognize who they were and what side they were fighting >on. [snip] >But the coat of arms for the Shuman's would indicate to me that these >people were a warring people (I find that real hard to believe for some >reason) and it would also indicate to me that they had in some fashion a >position of royalty - as I have read it most commoners did not have a coat >of arms. [snip] >My question is this: if the Shuman's were a warring people and of some >wealth in European society in the l700's why in the dickens is it so hard >to find them? >Also, as I have read or understood the coat of arms it should have more >than just Puss an Boots type of boot on it. There should be at least 4 >identify insignas (I forget exactly how it goes but if the House of >Lancaster married into the House of Dorchester or something, then as each >family member took over the crest they would then add their own insigna to >it). I was quite interested in heraldry when I was in college, and did quite a bit of research on it then, but that was a LONG time ago! Here's what I remember: The description you are giving is fairly accurate for the British Isles. Some of the oldest "crests" or "signs" date back into medieval antiquity. "Standards", "Flags", and "colors" were carried by armies since ancient times, to help identify those who were fighting on the same side. The Coats of Arms are thought to have evolved from them, and were originally used to identify the soldiers of a lord, and some of the soldiers were knights (not royalty exactly, but "nobility."). They carried large shields "emblazoned" with the design which signified a particular castle, its lord, and all who gave allegiance to him. The oldest son inherited the title, and the Coat of Arms. Only the King could award new titles, and new Coats of Arms, but frequently, younger sons of the prominent families would take the same Coat of Arms and vary it in some way to indicate that they were a close relative, but not the heir to a certain "house." Also, when a female heir of one line married the male heir of another, or even other children of important houses, a new Coat of Arms was often created in which the "field" was "quartered" to show some significant part of the old design from each house. By the 17th century, all of this was strictly codified and regulated in England, but things were somewhat less settled in Europe. In Germany, new "Family Crests" were awarded rather regularly throughout the 17th century. These were often awarded -- as did the King in England -- for some favor done to the ruler. The other big difference is that the designs tended to be more realistic than those in England and France. Thus, a rather realistic-looking knee-boot standing on a green hill with a blue field (i.e., "sky"). I mentioned that according to the report my grandfather received, it may have been awarded to an individual who held a position similar to chamberlain. Was our earliest ancestor the one who helped the King put on his shoes? VBG! As to the question of whether the SHUMANs were warring people, I don't think the possession -- or lack -- of a Coat of Arms can be used as a guide. In the 12th to 15th centuries, perhaps this would have been true, but it appears that the SHUMAN Coat of Arms was of much later derivation. We know there was frequent warfare in Europe throughout this entire time period, so it would be hard to say which of our ancestors might have been militant and which peace-loving. My guess is that only those who managed to save their necks in one way or another survived to pass on their genes to us! And don't forget the composer, Robert Schumann! Now, why is it so hard to find our ancestors of the 1700s? A big part of the problem is that we don't know where to look. Most of us are "stalled" somewhere around 1800, give or take a generation or two, at a time and a place that was extremely primitive as measured by almost any cultural yardstick. Those who had left the semblance of civilization to be found in cities such as Philadelphia and headed to the frontier areas of western PA, VA, and NC, for example, could not expect much education or record-keeping for their families. Even those who *could* write often had nothing on which to write. Frequently, word-of-mouth was about the only way information was transmitted, and in many families and communities, etc, for two or three generations there were few who could even sign their own names (we're all familiar with "his X mark" on the Wills of the time). Another factor from 1750 to 1820 was a strong distrust of government and all its institutions. Many of our ancestors *didn't want* anyone to know their business, and made sure no one found out! Add to this the frequent "wanderlust" habit of migrating ever farther into the frontier, and it's little wonder that we can't "find" the people we *know* had to be there -- somewhere! Regards! JS ____________________________ James Shuman, art instructor Modesto High School jshuman@telis.org ____________________________

    02/15/2000 11:43:44
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Shuman Coat Of Arms
    2. Carl Jarrard
    3. A cousin of ours went to Germany and brought back a picture of our Shuman coat of arms. He let us use it for our Shuman book. It had a knee length boot on it. It looked just like the 'Puss in Boots' one also. Carolyn Jarrard

    02/15/2000 06:46:01
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Shuman Coat Of Arms
    2. James Shuman
    3. "tara13" <tara13@gateway.net> wrote: >Does anyone know if there is a Shuman "Coat of Arms" on our website? I'd >really be interested in seeing and knowing if there is one listed. So far as I know, none has been posted. We also need to keep in mind that in the original tradition, "Coats of Arms" belonged to an individual rather than to an entire surname. Of course, here in America, we're more interested in the pageantry of the heraldry than in its legal significance. More than 60 years ago, my grandfather sent to Washington, DC, for some research into "Shuman Genealogy" which included a description of "the original Shuman Coat of Arms." As I recall, the description was something like this: azure, a half-boot gules on a mound vert Remember, this is a GERMAN coat of Arms, not English, but the terms used were pretty standard, even if the designs differed. Translated into our language, it would be something like this: a blue sky, a green hill, with a red half-boot (think of the story "Puss in Boots") standing on it As I recall that report, the above "Coat of Arms" was awarded to someone in Germany whose "rank" might have corresponded to a chamberlain in England. Has anyone else seen or heard of any other? JS ____________________________ James Shuman, art instructor Modesto High School jshuman@telis.org ____________________________

    02/14/2000 09:40:17
    1. [SHUMAN] Shuman Coat Of Arms
    2. tara13
    3. Does anyone know if there is a Shuman "Coat of Arms" on our website? I'd really be interested in seeing and knowing if there is one listed.

    02/14/2000 05:33:31
    1. [SHUMAN] Shumans
    2. Grace - Sorry it took me so long to answer your first message and now the second one. I haven't been spending much time at this lately, for a variety of reasons. Yes, I think your Barbara and our Jacob were bro. & sis. and the children of Christian Shuman. And I think John Shuman who m. Elmira Williamson was also a bro. I've spent a lot of time this week-end charting the info I have on all the Johns in early Rowan Co. I'll try to explain my thoughts. Christian's will lists these chdr: Barbara, Mary, Catharine, George. Jacob, John, Sophia. Catharine m Jacob Dillow and her will of 1856 leaves a black girl and some money to her bro John. The John who m Elmira was still alive then (he d 1875) , so he could be her bro. Also his birthdate of 1795 fits in with Christian's will of 1807, stating that John was one of his minor chdr, and with subsequent census records. Catharine's will also leaves some of her estate to the Blackwells, which was her sister Sophia's married name. I think George and Jacob were both dead by 1856 when she wrote her will and her sisters Barbara and Mary had both moved west. There was another marriage in Rowan Co for a Barbara Shuman, this one in 1804 to Peter Earnhart. I don't think they are the same Barbara, probably cousins, because your Barbara m R. Tenpenny in 1802 and was apparently still m to him when she went west later on. I, too, have Barbara Tenpenny, rather than Barbara Earnhart, as Christian's dau, but I don't know why. Do you Know? Let's keep in touch, maybe we'll figure all this out sometime. Ann Shuman Burdette <asburdette@juno.com> ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    02/06/2000 03:07:59
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Shuman Obit
    2. Thank you..........Here it is............ This was in the Times West Virginian on Thursday, Feb 3, 2000 and wrote exactly as it appeared... Willis Averal Shuman, 90, of Charles Town, died Tuesday, (Feb. 1, 2000), at Jefferson Memorial Hospital, Ranson. He was born April 17, 1909, in Fairview, the son of the late Francis Ellsworth and Nora Belle Haught Shuman. He retired after many years of service in the Recreation Department of the Veteran's Administration Medical Center, Martinsburg. He was a Methodist. He graduated from Fairmont High School and attended West Virginia Wesleyan College in Buchannon. He served in the U.S. Army during World War II in the South Pacific Theatre, where he received a Purple Heart. He is survived by his wife of over 50 years, Helen B. Barrington Shuman, of Charles Town; three daughters and sons-in-law, Nora S. and Michael Corra of Parkersburg, Lisa S. and Don Zweifel of Houston, Texas, and Mary S. "Mimi" and Nicholas Snyder of Summit Point; four grandchildren, Kevin N.,Natalie A., and Eric S. Snyder, and Kathryn B. Zweifel; one sister, Nerva Keefover of Fairview; and several nieces and nephews. In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by three sisters, Esta Shuman, Lizzie Swinger, and Mary Conaway; and two brothers, Ernest and Gay Shuman. Friends may call from 7-9 p.m. Friday at the Melvin T. Strider Colonial Funeral Home, Charles Town. Services will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday, Feb 5, at the funeral home, with the Rev. John Conaway officiating. Burial will follow at Edge Hill Cemetery, Charles Town. Memorial contributions, may be made to the charity of one's choice. At 11:33 PM 2/3/00 -0800, you wrote: >>Would I be able to submit an Obit for Willis Shuman whom died Feb. 1, 2000. >>If I can, please let me know. >>Thank you >>Ardella > >You are welcome to post the particulars of his death. You might wish to >post it in two places: here, so that subscribers can be aware of it, but >also to the SHUMAN Message Boards, so that it will become part of a >permanently accessible public location. That URL is: > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/ShumanObits > >Thank you for offering to do this. > >JS > > ____________________________ > James Shuman, art instructor > Modesto High School > jshuman@telis.org > ____________________________ > > > >

    02/04/2000 07:23:51
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Shuman Obit
    2. James Shuman
    3. >Would I be able to submit an Obit for Willis Shuman whom died Feb. 1, 2000. >If I can, please let me know. >Thank you >Ardella You are welcome to post the particulars of his death. You might wish to post it in two places: here, so that subscribers can be aware of it, but also to the SHUMAN Message Boards, so that it will become part of a permanently accessible public location. That URL is: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/ShumanObits Thank you for offering to do this. JS ____________________________ James Shuman, art instructor Modesto High School jshuman@telis.org ____________________________

    02/04/2000 12:33:15
    1. [SHUMAN] seeking pictures - Roston Otto Shuman b.2-June-1884 d.18-Jul-1927
    2. DONNA SCHIFFERMULLER
    3. Roston Otto Shuman is the father of Thelma Mahalie Shuman who is my mother. She is the only survivor of seven children born to Roston Otto Shuman and Agnes Bethany Moore. Sunday, February 6 will be her 83rd birthday, and because of the responses to the query my husband and I placed on the Shuman list in early December, we found her genealogy back to Martin Henry Shumann of South Carolina and Georgia. I will be able to present to her a beautifully bound book compiled in 1994 with her Shuman family tree along with a suppliment pertanent to her direct line thanks to the wonderful work done by Shuman cousins, Geiger, Jarrard, Futch, Knaebel. We have no known photos of my grandfather. We think we have found a photo of His father, William David Shuman b. 24-Mar-1839 d. 29-Oct.-1912. Grndfather was one of 12 (one source names 13?) and had a twin brother, Oscar. I am hoping that somewhere in the descendents of his siblings, someone has pictures of the family. It would make Mother very happy, Donna Schiffermuller.

    02/03/2000 02:10:58
    1. [SHUMAN] Shuman Obit
    2. Would I be able to submit an Obit for Willis Shuman whom died Feb. 1, 2000. If I can, please let me know. Thank you Ardella

    02/03/2000 01:16:05
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Brethern List
    2. I am looking for the ancestors of Catherine Shuman b. 1814, possibly in NJ. Her father may have been Jacob Shuman b about 1778. Catherine married Daniel Whitaker, in 1814 in Springfield, Hamilton Co., OH. Catherine is my gggrandmother. They moved to IN sometime prior to 1823 when their son, Thompson, was born March 23, 1823.

    02/02/2000 05:43:36
    1. [SHUMAN] Frank SCHUMANN, Clermont Co., OH (1840s-50s)
    2. jbtoft
    3. Looking for German roots of Franz SCHUMANN, supposedly from Bavaria (according to U.S. Census), b. abt 1825 (computed from death cert.), emigrated 1846 via Le Havre (11 May 1846), arriving New Orleans 26 Jun 1846 [source: Declaration of Intention, 25 Nov 1850, Commercial Court of Cincinnati]. Settled Clermont Co., OH. Married 31 Jan 1854 in New Richmond, OH to Anna Marie WEISENBORN (b. abt Jul 1834 [date computed from 1907 death cert.] from Saxony [source: U. S. Census]. Civil War Service: Private, Co. C, 12th Reg. Ohio Infantry. He died 8 Jul 1871 in Cincinnati, OH. He had children as follows: John (b. 2 Nov 1854, Clermont Co., OH), Frank (b. 2 Feb 1856, New Richmond, OH), Joseph (b. 4 Mar 1858, Cincinnati, OH), Andrew (b. 25 Nov 1860). Franz's father probably John Schumann, mother possibly Anna or Mary, surname unknown.

    02/02/2000 12:19:31
    1. [SHUMAN] Fw: Beattie Biographies from Ohio and related information
    2. mddecker
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Stewart" <maggieohio@columbus.rr.com> To: <OH-FOOTSTEPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:17 AM Subject: Fw: Beattie Biographies from Ohio and related information > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judith Weeks Ancell <jancell@micron.net> > To: <OH-FOOTSTEPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 2:22 PM > > > > Judith Weeks Ancell jancell@micron.net > 1810 Edgecliff Terrace > Boise, ID 83702-2911 > > Hello, > I have transcribed the following information for the Beatty/Beattie > Archives. I would also like to submit it to the US GenWeb Biographies as > several states are mentioned. I am not researching this family, although my > Beattie family is from Ashland/Richland Cos. Ohio. > The two volumes of this book are not indexed - I cannot do look-ups. > However, if it is all right with you I would be glad to submit > transcriptions from time to time. Please let me know it this is all right. > I ampasting below the recent transcriptions that I made. Feel free to > break them apart as you wish. > Judith > > I have a copy of: > Henry Howe LLD, Howes Historical Collections of Ohio in Two Volumes, An > Encyclopedia of the State, Volume I, (Published by the State of Ohio; The > Laning Printing Co., Public Printers, Norwalk, OH (1896)). > Chapter: Ohio In The Civil War by Gen. John Beatty. > Page 150: "General John Beatty was born near, Sandusky, Ohio, December 16, > 1828. his education was obtained at the district school of a pioneer > settlement. His grandfather, John Beatty, was an anti-slavery man of the > James G. Birney school; from him the present John imbibed in boyhood his > first political tenets, and to these he has adhered somewhat obstinately > ever since. In 1852 he supported John P. Hale for the presidency. In 1856 > he cast his vote for John C. Fremont. In 1860 he was the Republican > presidentail elector for the district which sent John Sherman to Congress. > When the war broke out in 1861, he was the first to put his name to an > enlistment roll in Morrow county. he was elected to the captaincy of his > company, subsequently made lieutenant-colonel, then colonel of the Third > Ohio Volunteer Infantry, and in 1862 advanced to the position of > brigadeir-general of volunteers. He was with McClellan and Rosecrans in > West Virginia, summer and fall 1861; with General O. M. Mitchel in his dash > through Southern Kentucky, Middle Tennessee and Northern Alabama in the > spring of 1862. Returning with General Buell to the Ohio river, he joined > in the pursuit of Bragg, and on October 8, 1862, fought at the head of his > regiment in the battle of Perryville, Kentucky. In the December following > he was assigned to the command of a brigade of Rousseau's division, and led > it through the our days' battle of Stone River, closing on the night of > January 3, 1863, with an assult on the enemy's barricade, on the left of the > Murfreesboro' turnpike, which he carried at the point of a bayonet. he was > with rosecrans on the Tullahoma campaign, and after the enemy evacuated > their stronghold, overtook thiem at Elk river, drove their rear guard from > the heights beyond, and led the column which pursued them to the summit of > the Cumberland. While the army rested at Winchester, Tennessee, he was > president of a board to examine applicants for commissions in colored > regiments, and continued in this service until the army crossed the > Tennessee river and entered on the Chattanooga campaign. In this advance > into Georgia his brigade had the honor of being the first of Thomas' corps > to cross Lookout mountain. He was with Brannan and Negley in the affair at > Rossville. At the re-organization of the Army of the Cumberland he was > assigned to the command of the second brigade of Davis' division Thomas' > corps, but was with Sherman at the battle of Mission Ridge; and when the > rebel line broke he led the column in pursuit of the retreating enemy, > overtook his rear guard near Graysvile, whee a short but sharp encounter > occurred, in which Gen. George Many, commanding the opposing force, was > wounded, and his troops compelled to retire in disorder. Subsequently he > accompanied Sherman in the expidition to Knoxville for the relief of > Burnside, and the close of his campaign ended his military service. > Gen. Beatty was elected to the Fortieth Congress from the Eighth Ohio > district, and re-elected to the Forty-first and Forty- second Congresses, > serving first as a member of the Committee on Invalid Pensions, then as > Chairman of Committee on Public Printing. > In 1884 he was one of the Republican electors-at-large, and in 1886-7 a > member of the Baord of State Charities. He has since 1873 been engaged in > the business of banking in Columbus, Ohio."..... > Page 152: "Brigadier-Generals of Ohio Birth:.... John Beatty, Sandusky, > December 16, 1828." > > Page 153: "Brigadier Generals Resident in Ohio, but born elsewhere Those > having brevet rank of Major-General marked wit a cross (+)...... > Samuel Beatty, Pennsylvania, September 16, 1820." (+)..." > Roll Of Members Of The Ohio Commandery Military Order Of The Loyal Legion Of > The United States..... > > Page 156: Members Of Ohio Commandery, June, 1889: ..... > Beatty, John, Brig.-Gen. U. S. V., Columbus, O. > Beatty, W. G., Maj. O. V. I., Cardington, O." > > > > Erie County OH [was formed in 1838 from Huron and Sandusky Counties] > Page: 581 - 582: > "The original owner of the land on which Milan stands was John Beatty, a > native of the north of Ireland. he was the largest landowner in the > Fire-Lands and the grandfather of General John Beatty, whos has favored us > with this sketch of him, accompanied with some racy anecdotes: Among the > more prominent of the ealy settlers of Erie county was John Beatty, formerly > of New London, Connecticut. His first visit t o Ohio was made in 1810, at > which time he bought some 40,000 acres within the present limits of Erie and > Huron, of what were then known as the "Fireland-Lands." In 1815 he removed > with his family to this wilderness and built his first residence five miles > south of Sandusky, on what is still known to the older residents of that > section as the "stone-house place." When the township of Perkins was > organized Mr. Beatty was made its first clerk. Susbequently he was > appointed postmaster, and for many years thereafter he served the pioneers > as justice of the peace. About 1828 he removed to Sandusky, and in 1833 was > elected mayor of that city. he died in 1845, and is still remembered as an > upright, intelligent, warm-hearted, hospitable gentleman. The cuhrch > edifice nowstanding on the public square of Sandusky, and occupied at this > date by the Lutherans, was built at his cost and donated by him to the > Weseyan Methodist. Society. > John Beattie was a local preacher of the Methodist Episcopal Church, and > from 1815 to 1819 on almost every Sabbath met the pioneers in their log > school-houses or at their homes and addressed them very acceptably on > religious subjects. he was, however, a hot-tempered, impulsive, generaous, > obstinate Irishman, who never succeeded in reaching that degree of > perfection which enable him to live his enemies and offer the left cheek to > an adversary who had smitten him on the right. > An Accommodating Postmaster -- In 1816, or thereabouts, a post-office > was established and Beatty appointed postmaster. The ear of cheap > transportation and of cheap postage had not arrived. The settlers were > poor; few of them could raise the shilling with which to pay the postage of > a letter, but it was hard to have it withheld simply because they were poor > and had no money. The new postmaster proved equal to the occasion; he gave > them their letters and never made returns to the department. When called > upon to do so he replied that he had received no money from the office, and > therefore had none to return, and instead of being indebted to the > government, the latter was in fact indebted to him. This sort of logic, > however satisfactory to the settlers, was by no means pleasing to the > Post-Office Department, and so the government in 1819 discontinued the > office, and thus afforded Mr. Beatty greater liesure to look after th > spiritual welfare of his neighbors. > He was the original propietor of theland on which the town of Milan now > stands; the site on the banks of the Huron river was naturally a very pretty > one. Frederick Deucke, a Moravian missionary, had, in 1804, establlished a > mission there and called the Place Petquoting -- a very handsome name by the > way and one which the people should never have abbandoned. In 1814 Mr. > Ebenezer merry, having bought the place, laid out a villiage, and in honor > of the first owner called it Beatty. > An Audacious Seizure -- Among the first vessel built in what is now > Erie county, was one built by Abijah Jewitt, Eleazer Bell and a man named > Montgomery on the bay shore a few miles southeast of Sandusky. In one of > its first voyages it brought to Sandusky a cargo comprising a stock of > general merchandise for Mr. Beatty, and among other things a cask of brandy > which had not been entered at the custom house. The vessel was consequently > seized and subsequently confiscated. Mr. Beatty's merchandise was put under > lock and guard and the case reported to the department. The mails moved > slowly in those days; time passed, and conscious of no fault on his part > respecting the matter, Beatty grew impatient, and finally called his friends > about him, drove his tems onto the wharf, put revenue officers and their > employ'es aside, broke open the doors of the warehouse, and carried off his > merchandise. All this was not difficult to do; the troublesome part of this > affair came afterward, and resulted not from the cask of smuggled brandy, > but from the violent and unwarrantable manner in which he had regained > possession of his goods. The United States government was a big thing, even > then, and no single citizen could afford to defy it, as Mr. Beatty > discovered some years afterward, when compelled to pay the costs and > penalties growing out of this unfortunate transaction. > The Candle Story -- While a resident of New London, Connecticut, a boy > stole from Mr. Beatty a box of candles; the thief was promptly arresed and > arraigned before a magistrate; a witness appeared who testified that the boy > was guilty as charged, and Beatty being called to prove the value of the > property, swore that "the candles were worth, four dollars, every penny of > it." Under the law respecting petty offence at that time in force in > Connecticut, when the property stolen was worth from four dollars, and > upward, the penalty was whipping at the post! The magistrate was about to > pass sentence, when Beatty realized for the first time the terrible nature > of the punishment; his anger had by this time cooled, and a feeling of pity > for the boy supplanting every other emotion, he took the wittness stand > again and said: "if it please your honor I desire to correct my testimony. > I swore that the candles were worth four dollars, but I ommited to add that > thatwas the retail price; as the boy took a whole box I'll put them to him > at three dollars and thrity-three cents." The boy was not whipped. > Jay Cooke's Start __ Mr. Pitt Cooke once told me how his brother Jay > happened to get into the banking business, and as nearly as I can recollect > it was as follows: The Cookes were living in a house on Columbus avenue > (Sandusky) near the present site of the Second National Bank. One day, when > the family were seated at the dinner table, Eleutheros Cooke, the father, > said in a spirit of pleasantry: "Well boys, you must look out for > yourselves. I have sold this house to "Squire Beatty, and we have no home > now." Jay was the only one who took the matter seriously. he obtained a > situation in a store tht afternoon, subsequently accompanied his employer to > Philadelphia, and this opened the way for him to the position of clerk in a > banking house, and from this humble start in life he became the financial > agent of the United States." >

    01/31/2000 06:39:15
    1. [SHUMAN] SHUMAN help
    2. Tina & Michelle
    3. Grasping at straws here. I only have one name and no other info. Does this name look familiar to anyone? Christine Shuman (AUGUSTINE) b: Abt. 1851 in Shumansville, PA (Beaver twp/Columbia cty) d: 1931 in Paxinos, PA (Ralpho twp/Northumberland cty) +Joseph(orCharles) AUGUSTINE, Sr. b: 1849 in Tyrolean Mountains, Tyrol (part of Italy or Austria or England) d: 1927 in Ringtown, PA (Union twp/Schuylkill cty) 2nd Husband of Christine Shuman (Augustine): +Jessie DEIHL

    01/31/2000 03:54:21
    1. [SHUMAN] A Good Idea
    2. James Shuman
    3. This suggestion has been appearing on several of the Discussion Groups to which I belong. I'm not sure who thought of it first, but it's a good idea, and worth passing along. The year 2000 is a Census Year: Most of the census will be taken by mail, so after you have filled in your census form, why not make a copy of it and file with your important papers? Then your family will not have to wait 72 years to learn about you. JS List custodian ____________________________ James Shuman, art instructor Modesto High School jshuman@telis.org ____________________________

    01/29/2000 07:03:30
    1. [SHUMAN] The siblings of Junius Lee Shuman
    2. tara13
    3. I am putting this on the Shuman Website in hopes of finding my neice and nephew, the children of Junius Lee "June Bug" Shuman and Ina Joan Hess Shuman. They are: Sherry Lynn Shuman DOB January 12, 1952; and Charles Allen Shuman DOB July 8, 1954. Both were born in Monroe, Union County, North Carolina. There Grandfather would be, Lee Washington Shuman and Grandmother, Fannie Starnes. If anyone has any information regarding Sherry and Charles, please contact me!!

    01/27/2000 03:49:59
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Charlotte Shuman, born 1875
    2. I went through what you have listed here and added some information. Thank you Ardella Cottrill >My records indicate that Charlotte was the youngest child of WR and >Minerva. WR was married a second time, but I do not have any children >listed. The other children were: > >1. William Averal SHUMAN. Born on 21 Jul 1866 in Batelle Dist., Monongalia >Co., WV; died in Clay District, Monongalia Co., WV on 25 Aug 1896. >Occupation: Farmer. > >2. Francis Ellsworth SHUMAN. Born on 7 Sep 1869 in Batelle Dist., >Monongalia Co., WV; died on 9 Jan 1958. Buried in St. John's Methodist >Church, Rush Run, WV. > >On 14 Dec 1890 he married Nora Bell HAUGHT, in Jakes Run, WV. Born on 15 >Aug 1870 in Jakes Run, WV; died on 24 Dec 1946. > >They had the following children: > i. Ernest (1892-1970) > ii. Esta Mae (1895-1907) > iii. William Gay (1897-1967) > iv. Lizzie Alice (1899-1958) > v. Nerva Hazel (1902-) >1 vi. Willis Averal (1909-) > vii. Mary Olive (1913-1982) > >3. Dorcas "Darkey" Alice SHUMAN. Born on 24 Apr 1872 in Clay District, >Monongalia Co., WV. She married George HAUGHT. Born abt 1868. Dorcas Alice Shuman died 1910. buried David Cem. (Grant Town) WV Note: George W. Haught s/o Uriah and Minerva (Arnett) Haught born 13 April 1868 Monongalia Co. WV Died 20 Feb 1941 Marion Co. WV married 1892 Dorcas Alice Shuman >They had the following children: > i. Bessie married John Max Morrison > ii. Jesse > iii. Edna Pearl Haught (This is my line) born 10 Dec 1898 Marion Co WV Died 2 Oct 1944 Marion Co WV married 8 April 1916 Marion Co WV Shannon Tennant LeBlond s/o Dr. Hetzler C. and Malinda (Tennant) LeBlond Note: Will send info on this line in another email > iv. William vi. Nellie Haught Born: 31 Dec 1906 Died: 4 Jan 1907 > > >I show the following information for Charlotte SHUMAN: Born on 20 Jun 1875 >in Clay District, Monongalia Co., WV. I DO NOT HAVE A DEATH DATE. > >On 17 Jun 1894 Charlotte married Larney TOOTHMAN, in Monongalia Co., WV >Rev. E. Swithers (M.E.). Born abt 1873 in Monongalia Co., WV. I DO NOT >HAVE A DEATH DATE. > >They had the following children: > i. Arlie > ii. Dessie > iii. Lillie > iv. Rosie >

    01/27/2000 06:58:08
    1. Re: [SHUMAN] Charlotte Shuman, born 1875
    2. James Shuman
    3. William Riley SHUMAN was a grandson of Benjamin SHUMAN, who was one of the 13 children of John SHUMAN, the original SHUMAN settler in Monongalia Co, WV. We have quite a number of members researching different sections of this line, since both Benjamin and his son Jonathan had large families (WR was a son of Jonathan). My records indicate that Charlotte was the youngest child of WR and Minerva. WR was married a second time, but I do not have any children listed. The other children were: 1. William Averal SHUMAN. Born on 21 Jul 1866 in Batelle Dist., Monongalia Co., WV; died in Clay District, Monongalia Co., WV on 25 Aug 1896. Occupation: Farmer. 2. Francis Ellsworth SHUMAN. Born on 7 Sep 1869 in Batelle Dist., Monongalia Co., WV; died on 9 Jan 1958. Buried in St. John's Methodist Church, Rush Run, WV. On 14 Dec 1890 he married Nora Bell HAUGHT, in Jakes Run, WV. Born on 15 Aug 1870 in Jakes Run, WV; died on 24 Dec 1946. They had the following children: i. Ernest (1892-1970) ii. Esta Mae (1895-1907) iii. William Gay (1897-1967) iv. Lizzie Alice (1899-1958) v. Nerva Hazel (1902-) 1 vi. Willis Averal (1909-) vii. Mary Olive (1913-1982) 3. Dorcas "Darkey" Alice SHUMAN. Born on 24 Apr 1872 in Clay District, Monongalia Co., WV. She married George HAUGHT. Born abt 1868. They had the following children: i. Bessie ii. Jesse iii. Edna iv. William I show the following information for Charlotte SHUMAN: Born on 20 Jun 1875 in Clay District, Monongalia Co., WV. I DO NOT HAVE A DEATH DATE. On 17 Jun 1894 Charlotte married Larney TOOTHMAN, in Monongalia Co., WV Rev. E. Swithers (M.E.). Born abt 1873 in Monongalia Co., WV. I DO NOT HAVE A DEATH DATE. They had the following children: i. Arlie ii. Dessie iii. Lillie iv. Rosie On my visit last summer I was in contact with some of the grandchildren of Francis Ellsworth SHUMAN, some of whom still live in the Fairmont area. I am sure they would be glad to establish contact with another cousin! I do not have any further information on this part of the family, and would very much receiving whatever Cousin Charlotte Britto can provide! Also, Ardella Cottrill wrote: > >I descend from William Riley Shuman and Minerva Arnett. Would love to >exchange information. I will look in my notes and see exactly what I have. >Thank you >Ardella Cottrill >lilsis@mteer.com and I don't see your line at the moment, either, although I recall our discussing it some time ago. Can you refresh my memory? JS List Custodian >I am posting this message with the hope that somebody out there can help >Charlotte with the connections she needs. Thanks from both of us. >Delores Straight > > >Subj: Shuman genealogy >Date: 1/26/2000 8:45:26 AM EST >From: brittos@gatewaynet.bigpond.com (John Britto) >To: Str8cousin@aol.com > >Hi! I am beginning research into my grandmother, Charlotte Shuman, who was >born 16 June 1875 to Riley Shuman and Minerva Arnett in Marion County, WV. >She married Larney Elza Toothman and lived in the Rivesville area until her >death in 1955. Is it possible that there is a connection between Charlotte >Shuman and the Shumans you are researching? I'd appreciate any information >you could provide. >Thank you, >Charlotte Britto >(yes, I'm her namesake!) >brittos@gatewaynet.bigpond.com > >Charlotte, >I am sure that your Shumans are related to my Shumans who lived in the >Monongalia/Marion County area. But unfortunately I do not have much on the >Shumans past a couple of generations of the early 1800s. > >I will pass your query on to the Shuman rootsweb.and perhaps someone out >there can give you the answers you need. > >Good luck in your search. > >Delores Straight > ____________________________ James Shuman, art instructor Modesto High School jshuman@telis.org ____________________________

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