This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVHBAIB/282.1.1 Message Board Post: I appreciate your hard work and efforts. I have determined there must be some more children involved, but not recorded. Another words, there must have been something that we grandkids here in Collin County TX did not know about. I base this on the fact that Fanny Timmer posted an article regarding a train accident in Illinois. Pam and I know that is our great grandfather (William Jacob Shockey Jr.) We know this, because he was involved in a train accident in Illinois. The article stated William Jacob Shockey (Jr.) had four children. Something is weird, but that is ok. We know of nine. It is the SAME MAN. We know about the train accident. We are still putting it all together. I basically just wanted to make sure I understood who all of William Jacob Shockey's children were, but maybe in time, we'll get it straightened out. At least some of the tree is complete!! You have been most kind, and I thank you. Have a great day.