Les That is the very reason I was asking..It is one of those stories that has come down through my mothers side of the family. My grandmother and her siblings insisted there was indian in their line but we have never been able to find it. That is why I found this so interesting. Guess it is one of those things we may never know. Thanks for responding. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Shockey" <LShockey@citynet.net> To: <SHOCKEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [Shockey] Shockey - Shockay Indians >I have been ask this by others. So far I have not found a link. That is >not saying that one does not exist. In my article for the Shockey >Newsletter (that Marie probably has at the printer right now) I made a >request asking that if anyone did have proof to please send me a copy. >Also I have been hearing from more people each year who say that they were >told that their grandmother or great grandmother was Indian or part Indian. >I have yet to find supporting documents such as US census, birth, marriage >or death certificates that support any of these claims. The census would >have AI in place of W or other designation. The birth, marriage or death >certificates could have it shown as American Indian, or AI or list a >certain Indian tribe or nation. > > If anyone has found proof on any of this, I would certainly appreciate a > copy of the material. > > Les Shockey > > At 11:15 PM 3/19/2005, you wrote: >>I have been doing some reading and find it interesting about the >>Shockey/Shockay indians. Is there a connection to the Shockey surname? >>Does anyone have any info on this? >> >>Sara > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 > > > > ==== SHOCKEY Mailing List ==== > Start planning for the 2004 SHOCKEY Family Reunion. The 2004 will be July > 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (Thursday through Monday) at Winchester / Shockeyville, > VA and hosted by Marie. More details to follow. > >

You know, I remember when I was young listening to the old folks talk. I remember that subject being breeched. My grandfather, Christian David Shockey, had this answer: "Couldn't be any indians in the Shockey family.....They are too good at drinking!!!!" We have never seen any proof that Indian blood exists in our family, but that doesn't mean there isn't. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Burnett" <cburnett2@cfl.rr.com> To: <SHOCKEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Shockey] Shockey - Shockay Indians > Les > That is the very reason I was asking..It is one of those stories that has > come down through my mothers side of the family. My grandmother and her > siblings insisted there was indian in their line but we have never been able > to find it. That is why I found this so interesting. Guess it is one of > those things we may never know. > > Thanks for responding. > > Sara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lesley Shockey" <LShockey@citynet.net> > To: <SHOCKEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Shockey] Shockey - Shockay Indians > > > >I have been ask this by others. So far I have not found a link. That is > >not saying that one does not exist. In my article for the Shockey > >Newsletter (that Marie probably has at the printer right now) I made a > >request asking that if anyone did have proof to please send me a copy. > >Also I have been hearing from more people each year who say that they were > >told that their grandmother or great grandmother was Indian or part Indian. > >I have yet to find supporting documents such as US census, birth, marriage > >or death certificates that support any of these claims. The census would > >have AI in place of W or other designation. The birth, marriage or death > >certificates could have it shown as American Indian, or AI or list a > >certain Indian tribe or nation. > > > > If anyone has found proof on any of this, I would certainly appreciate a > > copy of the material. > > > > Les Shockey > > > > At 11:15 PM 3/19/2005, you wrote: > >>I have been doing some reading and find it interesting about the > >>Shockey/Shockay indians. Is there a connection to the Shockey surname? > >>Does anyone have any info on this? > >> > >>Sara > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 > > > > > > > > ==== SHOCKEY Mailing List ==== > > Start planning for the 2004 SHOCKEY Family Reunion. The 2004 will be July > > 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (Thursday through Monday) at Winchester / Shockeyville, > > VA and hosted by Marie. More details to follow. > > > > > > > > ==== SHOCKEY Mailing List ==== > To update or correct your genealogy data in the Shockey Family database, send either a GEDCOM file on floppy disk or by email, or Family group sheets to: > Lesley Shockey, Rt. 2 Box 36-A, Sandyville, WV 25275 > > >

At 08:10 AM 3/20/2005, you wrote: >That is the very reason I was asking..It is one of those stories that has >come down through my mothers side of the family. My grandmother and her >siblings insisted there was indian in their line but we have never been >able to find it. That is why I found this so interesting. Guess it is >one of those things we may never know. Hi Sara, Have you looked at all the census records of your grandmother's ancestors, both paternal and maternal, in the US census between 1850 and 1900? The census takers were supposed to list anyone with one quarter or one eighth Indian blood as AI (for American Indian) instead of W (for White) or one of the other ethnic groups. The AI should not be confused with the AL for Alien in the Citizenship Status column. There was one state that for many years insisted on marking on all records the Mu for mulatto for anyone with one eighth or more Indian blood. In the1910 Census Color and Race, the following was used. * White W * Black B * Mulatto Mu * Chinese Ch * Japanese Jp * Indian. In * All others Ot Some who were part American Indian may have tried to hide the fact from the census taker. However many census takers are suspected of marking the AI if they suspected based on a persons hair and facial features. One of my brothers has high cheek bones, is an excellent tracker and can slip through the woods even better than I can. We have heard stories of Indian ancestors in at least three of our ancestral lines. However none of the possible official records show this to be true. I would have concerns about those making the official recordings if it were not for the fact that they do have members of other families marked appropriately. Les -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005