My husband's family is also descended from the same Shiver line everyone else is researching, but it may be a new branch to all of you! Although I don't have proof, just to show where our branch should fall in the "tree", the beginning of the line is said to be: John William Shiver married Hanna Clemmons Their son Jacob Shiver married Dorcas Their son Jacob Shiver II married Sarah Ann Swilley Now comes the part I do know about (!).... Their (supposed) son: Samuel James Augustus Shiver (1825-1912) married Sarah Jane Prestwood (1828-1896) Their daughter Nancy Loucretia Shiver (1860-1912) married Robert Monroe Chancey (1853-1909) Their daughter Miriam Frances Chancey (1880-1958) married Levi Arthur Spear (1871-1952) Their daughter Mary Ruby Spear (1898-1985) married Henry Bertie Somers (1892-1972) Their daughter Mary Lois Somers (1928 - ) married Austin Leroy Martin (1927-1992) Their son James Dale Martin (1961 - ) is my husband! Bonnie Martin