Hi group, With all the activities this weekend I must have missed the message that mentions a genetic condition that may exist due to the Shiver intermarriage. If the originator of the message would send it to me i would be very grateful. I am also interested in this condition and what it is called. For Mary and Lyrice, I have been trying to figure out are relationship to each other. I also descend from Enoch Shiver, but have become totally confused and cannot figure out what cousins we may be. Can you help?????? Linda Happy Holidays