This seems to be what everyone has done, so here goes, first cousins > and all... > My great-grandmother was Lillie Mae Shiver Merritt Burtz > Her parents were Arkansas and Marshall Shiver > The lines of Shivers are: > Arkansas > daughter of > Manning Jr.(Dow) m. Celia E. Joiner > son of > Manning m. Sarah Love > Marshall > son of > Henry Fleming m. Dorcus(daughter of Manning and Sarah, and Manning > Jr.'s sister) > son of > Fleming Shiver m. Elizabeth Calhoun > And from what I've heard, Manning and Fleming might be brothers!!! > Hope this helps, because as Lewis Grizzard used to say, "I don't > believe I'd a told that!" > Well, I'm off so my California boyfriend can tease me about being > inbred, > Anna _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com