It looks to me like the Francis Marion she is talking about is Son of John T. and Dora Milstead and this Katherin Cooper would be the ? second wife of Jacob (at least she was his wife at the time of his death). Jacob was born abt 1815 in SC (son of Jacob and Sarah Ann). He died about 1893 in McCullah Alabama. I have his Will, some land, pension and Katherins pension records but nothing to reference going to Texas. I think when Shirley gets back on line, she may have some additional information. I am curious how Francis Marion ties into Jacob though. Wish I had more but hope this helps. Jim > Today's Topics: > #1 [SHIVER-L] Shiver Family Letter 4- [JohnArden@aol.com] > Subject: [SHIVER-L] Shiver Family Letter 4-10-1980. > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:05:18 EST > From: JohnArden@aol.com > To: SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com > > I received the following letter dated as above, and I am afraid that this lady > was confused as to who I am: > > I am Francis Marion Shiver's wife, and there was a Jimmy SHiver that visited > us in Texas in > 1910 and on his way back to Coffee County visited his aunt Katherin Cooper > Shivers. She married Jacob Shiver before the civil war and they raised 4 > girls. Millie married (Billie or Buddie ) Norton. Duck married Barry > Arnette. Kate married Samuel Strickland. Elizabeth married John Hall. ( > Mona May could have been Mona May Elizabeth). Samuel SHiver married Anna > John. Oldest son went west to Texas with grandfather, Jacob Shiver in 1860--? > , after civil > war. > > Thomas Jefferson born after grandparent, Uncle John went to Texas. Thomas > Jefferson and Mollie Maloy raised 3 sons, Walter Ivan (?), born 5-28-1887; > Francis Marion, born 5-22-1890. John Thomas, born 1-16-88. Francis Marion > married Clara McKinley, 7-25-1909. > > (This is where she goes astray - was 87 or 88 and living in nursing home in > Fairhope, AL at time this was written) If I am headed right, your > grandfather was Samuel Shiver and your father was Gus Shiver an you had a > brother, Johnny Shiver. They spent a night with Marion and me late in 1910. > I am oldest one of family, and living in a nursing home. > > Here are misc notes from a second letter received in May, 1980. > > My family: Sons: Walter T, born May 10, 1910. > Roy Ivery, born 7-23-1914 > Johnny Buford, 7-1-1917 > Luther Jackson, 12-5-1923 > Henry Agusta, 9-27-1934 > > Daughers: > Ida M Holsman (?), 1-15-1912 > Mollie M, 6-10-1921 > Frances S, 10-13-1927 (Frances Yvonne?) > Margarete, 7-5-1934 > > I am mother of 9 children. Husband lived together 53 and one half years. We > have 30 > grandchildren and 46 great grandchildren -- the youngest less than 1 year old. > > I have one son, Roy Ivory SHiver, Covington , Ga, Brown Bridge Road 12334 > Francis David Shiver > 4188 Fontana Ct > Tucker, GA > > Her husband was FRancis Marion Shiver > born 5-22-1890; died 1-26-1963 > > marr Clara McKinstry, born 9-20-1892 > married 7-25-1909 in home of bride. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------\ > Hope these notes help someone. > Wouldn't it be great if someone could get all the ariticles from family > reunions that were printed in Pelham newspaper? > > Does anyone know where the Shiver reunion is help further north, maybe in > Macon area? > > ______________________________ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------