>From Dec, 1982, I received a letter from Mrs Cowart Sander, 509 Orange Street, Troy, AL 36081. "A number of people are also working on the Shiver history. Some are: Mrs Patricia Dewberry, Mrs Argie Ruth Bragg, Mrs O. B. Ward, Mrs Don R Honeycutt, Mr D. E. Cain. The 1833 census of Barbour County shows Abraham Shiver and Jacob Shiver. My great grandmother, Sarah Shiver (Sally) King was named in the will of Jacob Shiver, written 1 Dec, 1859, a day before his death in Coffee County. Sarah was born in Barbour County, about 1837 and her mother, name unknown, evidently died in child birth in 1839. I have various records that I will be happy to share with you including Creek Indian War records, also records showing Jacob Shiver, III, born 1815; son of Jacob Jr, born 1789; son of Jacob , Sr, born 1750, son of John Who left Rowan County, NC, and settled in Kershaw County, SC, before 1750. I received the last records from someone else and have no proof. Could it be that we both are descended from the Rev War John Shiver(s)? If so, I would certainly like proof? For years the DAR group here has asked me to join but even though I have material on two other lines, I need a little more proof. I have contacted serveral Shiver families in the Coffee, Pike and Dale county area but they know nothing beyond parents and grand parents. I can send addresses if you are interested in writing them. I hve been puzzled over the possible connection between the Isler and Shiver families. Georgia Sanders Hope this might contain something that is of some use or that it might jog someone's memory. Starting in Wash , DC in the mid 70's I have been on the Shiver trail, and spent much time tracking the Shivers family. Never did I suspect that there were so many of us and that anyone else was researching the same people! Thanks for the internet! If we could only prove who was the father of Ransom, Enoch, Fleming, Jacob, Manning, etc.