Glydie - Thank you! We just LOVE having you on the list to clarify these SHIVERS vs. SHIVER families. I know Jim is just grateful to be able to put one more puzzle piece in place. Thanks again! Mary K. -- Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@ibm.net http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~marykozy Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe South King Co. Genealogical Society web page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs