Hi Shirley! All of these Shivers get a bit confusing! I have that Isaac (b: 12/26/1844 and died 3/28/1898; buried in Day Cemetery) was the son of Jacob and Hannah Perkins. I'm not sure if this is correct or not as I received the info but have not documented it. Isaac was married to four (now five) different women: Jennie listed that Margaret Dorinda Cross was her mother. He married Susannah Catherine Smith (Feb 2, 1867) and had 2 daughters (not documented yet): Nancy Emma and Sarah Ella He then married Palestine Pheobe Brock (Dec. 23, 1869) and had one son, Joseph (not documented yet) He then married Mariah F. Dees (March 9, 1871) and had John H, Louis, and Isaac (not documented yet) He then married Martha Iona Clark (Nov 29, 1861). i have no children listed for them but she filed for his pension. This info was passed to me from alot of different people, so some of it may not be correct as I do not have the proper documentation myself. If anyone can help me it would be appreciated. I can give you the line through jennie and the Crawfords to me if you want it. Tracie