I have some information on that b ranch promisted to me. Will put it up on net as soon as I can get my hands on it. One of my local Shiver cousins was in Milton, FL a few weeks ago and ran into a man who is a Shiver descendant in that area. Gave my c ousin a bit of data on his family, who he says, descended from Jacob Shiver. Hope to have it in a few days. Also hve an address of a deputy Sheriff in Milton, FL, who gave it to my sister a few years ago, when he was in this area. Am trying to locate it as I know that I put it up for safekeeping!