Hi Bert and John! Welcome to our Shiver Group!! Glad to have you aboard. I also descend from Enoch - Mary Kathryn and I are second cousins, once removed - we both descend from Loyd Hampton Shiver - She from his son, Perry, and me from his son, Jessie. I would be very interested in learning which of Henry Solomon's children that you descend from: I am showing as children: James; William; Aaron; Jessie; Louis; and Fredie. How about posting your line!! Happy to meet my "New" cousins - Let me hear from you! Lyrice Shiver McCranie Valdosta, GA