Anybody know who this William is and how he fits in? I still haven't recovered completely from my computer being kaput... Please cc her in your reply (if it goes back to the list), or cc the list if it goes back to her. Thanks! -- Mary Kathryn ************************* I'm a descendant of this William Shiver, I have him in Florida , married with a two year ild son in 1860, his wife was Harriet Curry, son William Author Shiver, they later had Lewis, Barney,Wilburn, Emma 1877,and May. Im a granddaughter of Emma Shiver she married William Morgan Shepard and had 14 children, 5 lived to adulthood, she was small and at birth so were her babys, 2 lbs.,or so. my dad being the youngest of the 14, A.J. Shepard born in Moore Haven FL 1921. Im his oldest child, Joanne Shepard Gage. I have a copy of William Shiver's Seminole Indian War pension file, it tells his discription, 5ft 7, fair skinned ,sandy hair , and blue eyes. Emma Shiver Shepard drowned in the 1926 storm , when the dyke broke in Moore Haven, all family photos were lost, my dad was 4 years old, she was able to save him before she drowned, ,,,were looking for any of her family that might have a photo of her or her brothers and sisters ? Thank You Joanne Shepard Gage joseys@hotmail.com