Hi Mary K, I show the same children for Jacob Shiver Jr. and Sara Ann Swilley as you, plus two more. They are (1) Dorcus Shiver, b. abt 1810 in Ga, d. 16 Sept 1895 in Coffee County, AL, and buried in the Howell Farm Cemetery in Coffee County and (2) Elizabeth Shiver, b. 16 Mar 1828 in Wilkinson County, Ga, d. 1906.. Dorcus married John McIntosh, and Elizabeth married Henry Snellgrove. When Sarah Ann (Swilley) Shiver died, all of her children, and their spouses, are named as heirs to her estate, except Elizabeth and Henry Snellgrove, so I have a question mark about her. Also, there is a question about the date of birth of Samuel James Augustus Shiver, You show 10 Apr 1815, I show 10 Apr 1823, and D.E. Cain shows 10 Apr 1825. There is a family cemetery on the Howell farm in Coffee County, AL, which has several McIntosh graves (this may have been the McIntosh farm many years ago). One of the gravestones says:" Dorcus, wife of John McIntosh, died 9/16/1895, she died at 85". I'm sure she wasn't Dorcus Emaline "Duck" Shiver, since she married Barry Arnette. Mary Shiver married Chapman Motley on 12 Sept 1839 in Greene County, Al. They had 9 children; one was a daughter, Susan Motley, b. 1854 in Alabama, died 10 July 1939 in Coffee County. Susan Motley married Dan McIntosh, son of John McIntosh and Dorcus Shiver. Dan and Susan are buried in the Howell farm cemetery, near Dorcus Shiver McIntosh. In Jacob Shiver III's will in item 10 he mentions Dorcus McIntosh, and in item 12, he appoints brothers, Samuel and Nicholas, and C. S. Motley as his excutors. Hope this clears things up a little. Bill Cassady