Drexel Shiver's book covers that line and how some of the family left Hamilton Co and went to what is today Homestead, FL, where the mayor is a Shiver and a descendant of that line.

Tammy napolean Bonapart Shiver is my Gr Granfather from Hamilton County Fl for more info please e-mail me at lciparro@aol.com gotta go to work now bye Cousin Linda

Which book are we refering to......I work in camilla 3 blocks from the library.... ----- Original Message ----- From: brooks <stbrooks@bellsouth.net> To: <SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:39 PM Subject: [SHIVER] shiver book > I believe that the book in question is also in the mitchell county library. I'll take a ook next time I get down there. > > Is anybody looking into Napoleon Shiver's family? Just wondering if I had any cuzins out there. > > Tammy > stbrooks@bellsouth.net > >

I have the pages from the Asa Joiner Book. My mom, a librarian, copied them for me some time ago. They confirmed a bunch of names and dates I had already gotten from other sources (MKKozy's pages, mostly), but I had forgotten that they said anything about cousins!! I mean I "knew" Arkansas and Marshall were kissing cousins and all, but only through some geneology that was done by my mom when I was little. I don't know if you count it as definitive documentation, but every little bit helps. Send me snail mail addresses and I'll send you copies. Oh and also I have the pages with Arkansas' obituary (no source noted on page, like what newspaper?). I'll get my mom to check on it in the book. That's at the Tifton library, by the way, in the geneology room. MERRY XMAS!!! Anna P.S. The pages on Manning and Elizabeth also have a great picture of them when they were older (again no source noted, I'll check on it). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I have a great great uncle, Napoleon Boneparte Shiver born in Suwanee or Hamilton County Fl. He was the son of James Alexander Shiver and Jane. What county was he from. I guess every family had a Napoleon. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: brooks <stbrooks@bellsouth.net> To: <SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:39 PM Subject: [SHIVER] shiver book > I believe that the book in question is also in the mitchell county library. I'll take a ook next time I get down there. > > Is anybody looking into Napoleon Shiver's family? Just wondering if I had any cuzins out there. > > Tammy > stbrooks@bellsouth.net >

I believe that the book in question is also in the mitchell county library. I'll take a ook next time I get down there. Is anybody looking into Napoleon Shiver's family? Just wondering if I had any cuzins out there. Tammy stbrooks@bellsouth.net

For Tracie Crawford and others I found a marriage record for Mrs. Margaret D. Cross and Robert J. Bevill as follows: MARRIAGE; Date and place found in "Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine," Volume XVII, Number 3, September 1990, "Some Hamilton County, Florida Early Marriages" see Robert J. Bevill to Mrs. Margaret D. Shiver May 12, 1873. >From this marriage date and going by data on 1880 census record for Robert and Margaret, we know that Julia, Rebecca, and Granville were Robert and Margaret's children with Harrison being a son by Robert's first wife. And of course, Emma Virginia was listed as a step child! Tracie, You might already have this marriage data, but just in case you did not, I'm sending it on! I wonder who Robert's first wife and mother of Harrison was???? Also we know that Isaac either had to have died or they divorced between 1865 (date of birth for Emma Virginia Shiver) and May 1873 when Margaret and Robert married. Have you ever found a date of death for Issac? If so, would you please send it along with burial data if you have it????? I see from your posting that Eugenia married Benjamin Franklin Zipperer - do you or anyone out there have any data on her children? You see how far behind I am on reading all these messages as I just got around to this one today! Lyrice

At 01:24 PM 12/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >Lyrice - > >That's GREAT! How big is that book? I'd love to have a copy of it if >anyone ever runs across it for sale somewhere... Or maybe someone's >willing to mail it to me so I can peruse it? ;-) I'll pay postage! :-) > >Mary Kathryn Same here! If anyone knows of a source, please let us know. Happy holidays to all you cousins!!!! Harry

Lyrice - That's GREAT! How big is that book? I'd love to have a copy of it if anyone ever runs across it for sale somewhere... Or maybe someone's willing to mail it to me so I can peruse it? ;-) I'll pay postage! :-) Mary Kathryn -- Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@attglobal.net My Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~marykozy/ South King Co. Gene. Soc. page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/ Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe/ Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe/ Lawrence Co., IL USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illawren/

Lyrice: How WONDERFUL! I think this is a great Christmas present for all you Georgia Shiver's! Happy Holidays Shirley Turner Shiver -----Original Message----- From: Lyrice McCranie <lsm1043@planttel.net> To: SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com <SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: December 14, 1999 02:01 PM Subject: [SHIVER] Question of Brothers >Hi Gang, > >I know its Christmas and everyone is busy but I ran across something >that I would like to run by you! >As you all know, I have long supported the THEORY that Enoch, Manning, >Ransom, and Fleming were brothers and I THINK sons of James, son of >J/H. Well I ran across something the other day that also pointed in >this direction; In book, "The Asa Joiner Family of Mitchell County, >Georgia," written by A.H. Clark in 1967, in the article about Manning >(Dow) Shiver and Elizabeth Joiner Shiver, Mr. Clark stated that >Arksansas Shiver married Marshall Shiver a second Cousin. He also >states that William Alfred Shiver married second Effie Shiver, a second >Cousin. They would be second cousins if Fleming and Manning Were >brothers!!! Fleming had Henry Fleming who had Marshall. >Manning had Dow who had Arksansas - thus Arksansas and Marshall were >second cousins in this manner. Effie was a little off - I believe she >was actually William second cousin one removed. >Fleming to Henry Fleming to Shack to Effie >Manning to Dow to William Alfred (William and Shack would be second >cousins) > >This book was written in 1967 and so 33 years ago someone was thinking >that (at least) Fleming and Manning were brothers!! I just noticed this >and thought that I would pass this along to you all. I believe that >this is just another little bit of "proof" that lends itself to my >theory that these four boys were brothers. > >Happy Holidays to all, >Lyrice > >

Hi Gang, I know its Christmas and everyone is busy but I ran across something that I would like to run by you! As you all know, I have long supported the THEORY that Enoch, Manning, Ransom, and Fleming were brothers and I THINK sons of James, son of J/H. Well I ran across something the other day that also pointed in this direction; In book, "The Asa Joiner Family of Mitchell County, Georgia," written by A.H. Clark in 1967, in the article about Manning (Dow) Shiver and Elizabeth Joiner Shiver, Mr. Clark stated that Arksansas Shiver married Marshall Shiver a second Cousin. He also states that William Alfred Shiver married second Effie Shiver, a second Cousin. They would be second cousins if Fleming and Manning Were brothers!!! Fleming had Henry Fleming who had Marshall. Manning had Dow who had Arksansas - thus Arksansas and Marshall were second cousins in this manner. Effie was a little off - I believe she was actually William second cousin one removed. Fleming to Henry Fleming to Shack to Effie Manning to Dow to William Alfred (William and Shack would be second cousins) This book was written in 1967 and so 33 years ago someone was thinking that (at least) Fleming and Manning were brothers!! I just noticed this and thought that I would pass this along to you all. I believe that this is just another little bit of "proof" that lends itself to my theory that these four boys were brothers. Happy Holidays to all, Lyrice

Harry,Mary, and all others <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/joiner/messages/60.html">Re: Joiner, Asa 1806-1896</A> I found this on the Joiner Genforum site. Thought you may be able to contact her for a copy of the book. Linda Kirk, I too am a descendant of Asa Joiner. My great-uncle, A.H.Clark wrote the book you mention. There are a number of copies among my family. My great-great-grandmother, Emma Frances Joiner Pope was the daughter of Alfred Jefferson Joiner (Mary Ann's "Polly" brother. You can email me at amoncrie@bellsouth.net Angela

I just got back from Laurens County Ga yesterday. This is some of the info I found: I. J. Dugan Cemetery in Dudley GA Willard Eugene Shiver Sr. 12/16/1935 d. July 20, 1998 (Hardy's son) Joel Hardy Shiver 7/14/1896 d.11/14/1967 (Bob's son; Hardy had a son named Earl who died this week in Dublin and he was buried 12/8/1999 in Dublin) Margaret Carrol Shiver 7/29/1899 d. 2/21/1989 (Hardy's wife Carrol's were neighbors of Pat and Daisy Shiver show in the census.) Dora Shiver born 6/16/1874 d. 5/21/1954 Robert Samuel (Bob) Shiver 11/15/1869 d. 2/28/1946 (Lonnie (Pat's) brother) Other children of Bob and Dora Shiver are buried at Dry Branch in Twiggs County at one of the cemeteries there according to Viola Wilkinson). Son Arthur D Shiver Northview Cemetery in Dublin Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRa7557801@aol.com> To: <SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [SHIVER] Request for information > In a message dated 12/2/99 8:22:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, > NSHIV@bellsouth.net writes: > > << 148 Hardy Shivers Margarett 19 Janney 3 1/2 Horace 1 10/12 >> > IS THIS REALLY SHIVERS OR SHIVER??? > >

In a message dated 12/2/99 8:22:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, NSHIV@bellsouth.net writes: << 148 Hardy Shivers Margarett 19 Janney 3 1/2 Horace 1 10/12 >> IS THIS REALLY SHIVERS OR SHIVER???

I checked for SHIVER and SHIVERS and found the following. Note the close connection between the SHIVERS family BOYKIN in Virginia? Hmmm.... ;-) Here's all the SHIVERs I found in the database: ABRAM SHIVER FELDER'S BATT'N, ART'Y, SOUTH CAROLINA MIL. ADAM SHIVER CAPT. FISLER'S COMPANY, ARTILLERY, PENNSYLVANIA VOLS. BURWELL SHIVER 2 REG'T (JENKINS'), GEORGIA VOLS. AND MILITIA. DANIEL SHIVER 2 REG'T (MCWILLIE'S) SOUTH CAROLINA MIL. ELISHA SHIVER 2 REG'T (MCWILLIE'S) SOUTH CAROLINA MIL. HENRY SHIVER DETACHMENT ART'Y (BLEECKER'S), NEW YORK. ISAAC SHIVER FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY, GEORGIA MIL. JACOB SHIVER FELDER'S BATT'N ART'Y, SOUTH CAROLINA MIL. JACOB SHIVER 2 REG'T (JENKINS'), GEORGIA VOLS. AND MILITIA. JACOB SHIVER 32 REG'T (KRICKBAUM'S) PENNSYLVANIA MILITIA. JOHN SHIVER 1 REGIMENT (JOHNSTON'S), GEORGIA MILITIA. SAMUEL SHIVER 2 REGIMENT (HINDMAN'S), OHIO MILITIA. THOMAS SHIVER LIEUT. COL. BALL'S SQUADRON LIGHT DRAGOONS, U.S. VOLUNTEERS. Here's the SHIVERS I found: BENJAMIN SHIVERS PITT COUNTY REGIMENT (COBB'S) NORTH CAROLINA MILITIA. CORNELIUS SHIVERS 32 REG'T (HOOD'S) MARYLAND MILITIA. EMANUEL SHIVERS 6 REGIMENT VIRGINIA MILITIA. GEORGE SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BALLARD'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. GEORGE SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BOYKIN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. GEORGE SHIVERS 5 REGIMENT (LEWIS') KENTUCKY VOLS. JAMES SHIVERS MAJ. CAMERON'S COMMAND, NORTH CAROLINA MILITIA. JAMES SHIVERS 1 REG'T (ALLEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. JAMES SHIVERS 2 REG'T (BRUTON'S) NORTH CAROLINA MIL. JAMES SHIVERS 3 REG'T (BOYKIN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. JAMES SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BOYKIN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. JEREMIAH SHIVERS 6 REGIMENT VIRGINIA MILITIA. JOHN SHIVERS 1 REG'T (ALLEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. JOHN SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BALLARD'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. JOHN SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BOYKIN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. JONAS SHIVERS 2 REGIMENT, MOUNTED (HIGGINS'), TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS. JOSIAH SHIVERS CHEATHAM'S DETACHMENT, MTD. INFANTRY, TENNESSE MILITIA. ROBERT SHIVERS 8 REG'T (MAGNIEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. ROBERT SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BALLARD'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. SAMUEL SHIVERS RAYEN'S REGIMENT, OHIO MILITIA. SAMUEL SHIVERS 2 REGIMENT (HINDMAN'S), OHIO MILITIA. THOMAS SHIVERS COFFEE'S REG'T, CAV., W. TENNESSEE VOLS. WILLIS SHIVERS 3 REGIMENT (FEW'S), GEORGIA MILITIA. WILSON SHIVERS 1 REG'T (ALLEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. WILSON SHIVERS 3 REG'T (BOYKIN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. WILSON SHIVERS 29 REG'T (BOYKIN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. Hope this helps someone! :-) -- Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@attglobal.net My Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~marykozy/ South King Co. Gene. Soc. page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/ Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe/ Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe/ Lawrence Co., IL USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illawren/

This is a new feature being promoted by Rootsweb. If you are a Rootsweb subscriber for $24/year, you receive (along with some other features), the ability to register your names on this website: http://pml.rootsweb.com/ When you do, you will receive a personalized e-mail whenever these names show up in the mailing list archives, ROOTS-L, and GenConnect Boards. For $2 a month, not bad! :-) Plus you can support Rootsweb and help make it an even better genealogy site! Mary Kathryn -- Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@attglobal.net My Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~marykozy/ South King Co. Gene. Soc. page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/ Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe/ Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe/ Lawrence Co., IL USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illawren/

Gail Moore wrote me earlier and asked how to access the archives for the SHIVER-L list. I'm not honestly sure how far back it goes, but here's the URL for one of the many apparent types of search engines for these mailing lists: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Just type in SHIVER into the mailing list field, and it will bring up another screen with a field for typing in whatever surname or combination of names you are searching for! Good luck! Mary Kathryn -- Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@attglobal.net My Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~marykozy/ South King Co. Gene. Soc. page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/ Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe/ Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe/ Lawrence Co., IL USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illawren/

Here are some odds and ends from Geneva County, AL cem records: Church of Christ - Geneva Co (unfortunately this book does not give cem directions.) Shiver, Amous E, 1 Apr 1923 7 Oct 1957, PFC, ArmyAir Corps, WW2 Shiver, R.G. 22 Dec, 1900 28 Dec 1935 (In Bell Fam plot Providence Meth Church Cem - Geneva Co Shiver, Susan Janell 1931 - 1956 , Wife of James Bethlehem Cem - Geneva Co Shiver, inf son born and died 1 Feb 1910, Mother was M.A. and Father, J.V. Shiver, inf son, 12 Dec 1897 - 16 Dec 1897, Father was J.C. and mother was Eliz. Shiver, Elizabeth, 29 Dec 1858 - 28 Oct 1907, Husband was J.C. Bethel Missionary Bap Cem Shiver, George W, 31 March, 1886 - 6 April 1948, wife was Pinkie Shiver, Pinkie, 5 May 1888 - 11 June 1962 Maybe one of these will fill in a blank somewhere.

1. RYAL?1 SHIVER. (This is the name given on W. H. Shiver Burial certificate. On Lonnie \'s burial certificate only R. Shiver was listed as father's name) Children of RYAL? SHIVER are: 2. i. WARREN2 SHIVER. ii. R.S. SHIVER. 3. iii. UNKDAU SHIVER. iv. ARTHUR SHIVER. 4. v. LONNIE EUGENE SHIVER, b. June 01, 1882; d. October 23, 1936, Dublin, GA Claxton Hospital. 5. vi. W. H. SHIVER, b. December 22, 1883, Bibb County GA; d. January 03, 1937, Dublin, GA Coleman Hospital. 2. WARREN2 SHIVER (RYAL?1). Warren married ELLA SINCLAIR. Children of WARREN SHIVER and ELLA SINCLAIR are: i. WARREN R.3 SHIVER. ii. THELMA SHIVER. iii. GEORGIA SHIVER. iv. RICHARD SHIVER. v. MAMIE SHIVER. vi. R. W. SHIVER. vii. LILLIAN SHIVER. 3. UNKDAU2 SHIVER (RYALS?1). Unkdau married J. T. FREEMAN. Child of UNKDAU SHIVER and J. FREEMAN is: i. GEORGIA3 FREEMAN. 4. LONNIE EUGENE2 SHIVER (RYALS?1) was born June 01, 1882, and died October 23, 1936 in Dublin, GA Claxton Hospital. He married DAISY WILKINSON, daughter of JOHN WILKINSON and MARGARET LAFAVOR. More About DAISY WILKINSON: Cause of Death: blood poison after a miscarriage per Marguarette Sapp still living 11/25/99 Children of LONNIE SHIVER and DAISY WILKINSON are: i. HUGH EDWARD3 SHIVER. 6. ii. ROWELL LAMAR SHIVER, b. March 21, 1907; d. July 05, 1969, Dublin, GA. 5. W. H.2 SHIVER (RYALS?1) was born December 22, 1883 in Bibb County GA, and died January 03, 1937 in Dublin, GA Coleman Hospital. He married ROSA. Children of W. SHIVER and ROSA are: i. ARTHUR3 SHIVER. ii. NORA SHIVER. 6. ROWELL LAMAR3 SHIVER (LONNIE EUGENE2, RYALS?1) was born March 21, 1907, and died July 05, 1969 in Dublin, GA. He married VERA MAE SOUTHERLAND, daughter of WADE SOUTHERLAND and CORA RHINEHART. Children of ROWELL SHIVER and VERA SOUTHERLAND are: 7. i. WADE HUGH4 SHIVER (my Father). 8. ii. DAISY LUTRICIA SHIVER. 1900 Soundex EB 60 Sheet 36 Line 97 Laurens County GA Wilkinson, John T Born 5/1856 44 years old Address 345 Harvard Margaret W. 8/1865 34 Yr. Old John T. Son 5/1881 18 years old Willie H. Son 10/1883 16 years old Daisy A. Daughter 10/1886 13 years old Theopolia son 11/1888 11 years old Clifford daughter 11/1891 8 years old Ethel daughter 10/1893 Eva daughter 12/1897 Henry Brown 10/1883 16 years old living with them 1900 Census John Wilkinson 5/1856 44 married 20 years born in GA both parents born in GA Farmer own farm 505 Schedule Margaret 8/1865 34 years old born GA both parents born in Ga (maiden name LaFavor) Daisy 10/1886 13 years old Neighbors a. Sauls, carrol Rents Wife's name Mary b. Jacob and Mary Heath Children Eunice Abraham George Roza Daniel Essie Mamie c. Owens; Hester; Burgess; McTier  1920 Soundex William Henry Shiver 30 8 78 Bibb County 37 years old Rosa wife 35 year old Arthor son 12 years old Nora daughter 9 year old John Wilkinson 62 years old GA 87 6 80 Laurens County Margaret 58 Will 36 Son Eva 22 Daughter John Wilkinson 3 7 88 Bibb county 47 years Ethel wife 23 years old Trydue daughter 15 Edward 5 years old John Jr. 3 years old Josie 2 years old Harry 1 years old Theo Wilkinson 30 years old 87 6 84 Laurens county Annie wife 26 years old Callie daughter 11 year olds Margarette daughter 9 years old Oscar son 7 years old Randal son 5 years Lucius son 41/2 years old Clifton son 1 3/4 years old 1920 Census Kiwasonne and Cochran Road 126 Warren Shiver 44 Ella (Sinclair) 45 Georgia 15 Thelma dau 13 Richard son 11 Mamie dau 8 R.W. son 4 Lillian Millo Paul Blk Servant Laborer 106 Pat Shiver Male White 40 Married born in Ga parents born in GA Farmer Daisy wife 33 Lamar Son 10 attended son Hugh son 7 attended school Henry son 5 1/2 Georgia daughter 3 1/2 105 Gilbert Martin rent 23 wife flora daughter Annie Bell 104 Theo Wilkinson 103 John Wilkinson 99 J.T. Heath 64 wife Mary (LaFavor) 59 100 Tom Heath wilfe Fannie (Shiver) 31 Southerland Cullin wife Cleo children Lanty, Alvin; LeRoy; Logan; Hubert; Omie; Fred 109 English 148 Hardy Shivers Margarett 19 Janney 3 1/2 Horace 1 10/12 149 Sapp William 54 Bertha wife 27 Jack 14 son 150 Sapp Lutha 37 Ollie 27 Flora 5 151 Sapp Thomas 29 Lona 18 81 18 48 James Tindol 42 rents Anna wife William son ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Kathryn Kozy <mkozy@attglobal.net> To: <SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 7:05 PM Subject: [SHIVER] Request for information > Please give me informed on the Shiver line. My family roots revolve > around Alexander Shiver in South Georgia around Camilla, GA. > > I have an old family Bible history back to this point tp present which I > can e-mail if anyone is interested. > > Richard Shiver > 106 Brookwood Drive > LaGrange, GA 30240. (Born and raised in Manchester, GA, son of Charles > Brinson Shiver and Lillie Mae Meadows Shiver.) > > > >

Received your e-mail. My father in law was Adell (spelling?) Shiver. He was born in Slocumb, AL 08-08-08. He had several bothers and sisters, I believe there was 13 in all. I know 2 of the brothers names. Tom-last known to be in Olathe, KS and Joe in Alaska. Several of them live in Florida. We only met them once, and not all of them, when my father in law died in 1977 in Butler, PA. Maybe somebody knows of this family. Debbie Shiver ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnArden@aol.com> To: <SHIVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 1:46 PM Subject: [SHIVER] Shiver Kin in SE Alabama > Am going through phone books and sending out letters to most of the Shivers > in SE Alabama Counties in hopes of getting some new blood in the group, and > maybe > helping some of these people discover their roots. However, do not plan to > send > one to "Girlie." In the letter am putting the address for this site. Have > already sent > out about 10 so hopefully we'll get a response or two before long. >