At 07:51 AM 6/30/99 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Thank you for that information. I am descended from Thomas' son Robert >Coleman. > >Stanley Odell > > Hi {{{{{{{{{{{Stanley}}}}}}}}}}}}}, I am double-descended on the COLEMAN side, which wreaks havoc with my familytree programs. <sigh> My GGGGGG Grandmother is Ann Coleman, daughter of Thomas and Mary (LORT?) Coleman and sister to your ancestor Robert Coleman, whom I believe donated the 50 acres upon which Culpeper was built. Your Gx? Aunt Ann married my GGGGGG Grandfather Philip Clayton, an Anglican Vestryman who lugged around catalpa trees, who, in Green's book & Capt. Philip Slaughter's recollection is referred to as "Major". Now that title may very well be, some kind of distinction of the British Royal SomethingorOther, but tends to confuse him in the history of St. Mark's Parish with his Grandson Philip who married Mildred ________?(not the one who married Mildred Dixon - that's yet another unrelated family that all ended up famous in Georgia and them there parts); The Philip Clayton who a couple of generations later, was a Major in the little skirmish with the British. That Philip Clayton was one of the sons of my GGGGG Grandfather Colonel Samuel & Ann Coleman Clayton, daughter of Robert and Sarah Ann SAUNDERS Coleman, my GGGGG Grandmother, and niece to Ann Coleman CLAYTON my GGGGGG Grandmother. Is this perfectly clear? hahaa. In 1786, Col. Sam & Ann's kid, Sam'l Clayton jun'r who may have been the Sheriff of Culpeper at one time or his dad was, married Cathryn PRICE, dau. of William Price of Shenandoah County VA, and hightailed it off to Bourbon County, Kentucky, where in 1807 they had my GGG Grandfather George Price Clayton who grew up there and married Rebecca FIELDS, I suspect of the VA FIELDS family since the original families all knew each other way back when in Culpeper. George & Rebecca had my GG Grandfather Samuel Thomas Clayton born 22 June 1825 in Bourbon County, Kentucky, and shortly thereafter took their two kids Louisa & Sam T., and moved to Crawford County, Illinois, where they had 6 more kids before George died in 1838. Rebecca married again to William RASH who had become guardian of the CLAYTON children after George's untimely death, and my GG Grandfather Sam T. took off real quick. In 1843, on Valentine's Day (the license reads 13 February 1843), he married Elizabeth SIMMONS in Lawrence County, Illinois, and they went back and forth between Illinois and Wisconsin, until they ultimately settled in Washington Township, Green County, Wisconsin, near Monroe. >From the History of Green County, p.113-7: Samuel Thomas Clayton was born in Bourbon County, Kentucky, June 22nd, 1825. When he was but an infant, his parents moved to Illinois and settled in Crawford County, where they were early settlers. His father [George Price Clayton] bought timberland, improved a farm, and lived there until the time of his death. The subject of this sketch there grew to manhood. When he was fourteen years old, his father died, and two years later his mother was again married. He then started out for himself and went to Lawrence County, and there he found employment on a farm. He was there married when he was eighteen years old, to Elizabeth SIMMONS, who was born in Greene County, N.C. They located in Crawford County and remained one year, then lived on a claim in Lawrence County two years, then moved to Richland County and rented land for two years. In 1848 they came to this county and spent the first winter at Monroe. He was there engaged in mining, and in teaming to the pineries, a distance of 200 miles. In the spring of 1849 he moved to Washington [Township] and engaged in mining two years, then returned to Lawrence county and rented a farm one year, then came back to the Township of Washington and bought a claim of forty acres on the Northeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter of Section 34, and subsequently entered the land. There was a small frame house on the place at the time. He did but little work on his land but engaged in mining and carpentering two years, then paid attention to farming, He now owns 140 acres and is engaged in raising stock and grain. [They had eight children living - Mary E., Sarah C., George, Libbie, Henryetta, Samuel T., William, and Myrtle. Mary E. married Anton BAUMGARTNER, son of Anton and Magdelena MARTI BAUMGARTNER who emigrated from Engi, Switzerland; Sarah C. married John WESLEY BAILEY; My Great Grandmother Elizabeth (Libbie) married Jacob Baumgartner, the youngest son of Anton & Magdelena Marti Baumgartner. Nettie married a LINCOLN who is said to have named the town of Henryetta, Oklahoma, after her. Myrtie married a BRAY. By that time, they were all members of the Methodist Episcopal Church.] On 29 November 1877, Jacob Baumgartner & Libbie Clayton were married. Their children were Zada, Winifred, William Charles, Edna and Nelle. Zada and Winnie died young. Wm. Charles married Alma WEISMILLER in Monticello, Wisconsin and had Gertrude, Hoy and Jay CLAYTON. Edna first married Fred HARRISON WELLS, son of Joshua and Alice KLECKNER WELLS of Monroe, Wisconsin/ and married Genn KING after Fred died. My Beloved Grandmother Nelle Elizabeth Baumgartner married Roy Albert _________ of Monroe in 1919 in Chicago where she was formally studying piano at the Conservatory of Music there. She died at 1:35 PM Thanksgiving Day 1994 at the Veteran's Retirement Home in King, Wisconsin, at the age of 95. Gram had been hoping for years that I would have the time to pick up the search for her lost family. I didn't realize how important it was to her. Her Mother and my GreatGrandmother Libby Clayton Baumgartner had died just 8 days after Gram was born. Little Edna had brought home a case of the measles from school and Libby caught them, she died 10 April 1899. Great Grampa Jacob Baumgartner married the children's schoolteacher on 10 January 1901. Her name was Mae Pearl SMITH, the daughter of Samuel MUNSON SMITH and Fanny WOODMANSEE. Kind of a Cinderella story: Great Grampa Jacob & Mae Pearl had two daughters, Faith and Maxine, and his first wife and Gram's family wasn't much talked about ever again. Gram being the littlest only picked up snatches of chatter from her much older siblings and her memories were more anecdote than fact. When Gram died, I received all the family papers. I found a number of uncancelled checks written in small amounts and returned from various Historical Societies in Wisconsin and Illinois, mostly deadends based on half-remembered names who turned out now, to be related but not direct ancestry. One CLAYTON maiden aunt had begun to help, I have her last Christmas card to Gram with some of the same rumored information that led Gram astray but with some actual information copied from the CLAYTON Bible. Aunt Gertrude CLAYTON promised to type all the bible records out and send them to Gram as soon as she got her typewriter fixed. She died in Monroe, Wisconsin, before the typewriter got fixed ...and no one knows yet what happened to the Clayton Family Bible. There were enough clues for a start. Gertrude copied ....Colonel Samuel CLAYTON of Culpeper, VA.... I found there is only one "Colonel" Sam Clayton of Culpeper, VA listed by that fellow whose name I can never spell Gwaethney or something, heaven knows what Sam did to earn the designation. No one from our family has registered with LDS as researching this branch nor with the Daughters of the American Revolution and Once Upon a Time I sent some less than bare bones info in to somewhere for his Military or Pension Records and they couldn't find him amongst the other Samuel Claytons of different lines in Virginia even tho' I said he was supposed to have been a colonel. Great Aunt Gertrude Clayton's Christmas letter did not mention the COLEMANs in the Bible quotes of her letter. Maybe because she thought she ought to doublecheck somewhere - our two earliest Grammas both being named "Ann Coleman" <g>.... It's been a trip since Thanksgiving Day 1994 when I began this journey into the past. My kids are finally grown, and I am flyin' on a single wing again with only a cat and myself to worry about feeding. Most of my jobs like this one allow me long spaces to research but anchor me to the phones next to my computer and don't allow me much prime time to visit LDS Family Centers/Courthouses/or libraries. Rootsweb has united me with a number of related Clayton cousins and one CLAYTON cousin, James, in Snowflake, Arizona. I am happy to stumble over a COLEMAN cousin...a double maternal line.....but regret that I have barely sketched out the Colemans. Because these families are so intertwined in Culpeper and named their children the same first names over and over and because there are few dates and so many errors in the published works, I have had to some extent map out other neighboring families like the SLAUGHTERS and WILLIAMS and PENDLETONs and GAINES and CUNNINGHAMs and LIGHTFOOTs and STEVENs who intermarried as well as pencil in family sheets of any kids of unrelated Claytons like the Major Philip who married Mildred Dixon and took his family to Georgia while our Major Philip about the same age, another of Col. Sam's sons, who married a Mildred WhoKnowsWhatforSure (probably either EDWARDS or BELL as they named their daughter Sarah Ann EDWARDS Clayton and one of their sons James BELL Clayton). This Major Philip and Mildred Clayton remained on the old Clayton farm, however, in Culpeper Virginia, as the lineal inheritors, leading me to believe that this Philip is the firstborn son of Col. Sam & Ann Coleman Clayton in the fashion the family property was passed down in those days. love from Cynthia Claytonroberts, who took on her Beloved Grandmother's mother's name many many years ago in commemoration of the lost tribe.