soemthing I might add.....looks like you might need to look at Culpepper County....? I looked in the 1785 head of household for Shenandoah Co and did not see a Bruce. there is a pass between Culpepper into Shenandoah (what today is Page Co) and many of the people out of Culpepper used the church called White House which was in Shenandoah. Koontz was the minister....this in 1780s. So it was easy to get between the counties thru that pass. I think White House was built in 1760 or so. I have a good map of the passes between Shenandoah and to the east, my favorite one is Rock Fish Gap between Staunton and where Jefferson lived near Charlottesville....I imagine it is how he got into the valley. Usually you find a town on each side of these passes. This is why Staunton was such a big center of culture and schools - many people from the eastern side of the mountains sent their sons and daughters to schools in Staunton. So be aware that even in early times, those passes were used to get from the east into the valley.....the other route from PA and MD was of course up on the upper Potomac - like Shepherdstown, the route many of the German speaking people used. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Miller" <hlm@qtm.net> To: <shenandoah@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [SHENANDOAH] land grants - Bruce > No Berryman, Loudon or Betty Bruce mentioned.....the names are: > > Bruce, George 4 entries > Bruce, James 1 > Bruce, John 4 > Bruce, margaret 1 > Bruice, George 2 > Bruice, james 1 > > the earliest ones are: > > page 26 > G-78: Ambrose Powell of Orange Co. 530 A. in said Co. Surv. Mr. Phillip > Clayton. In Fork of Robinson R., adj. Benjamin Powell, Benjamin & Ambrose > Powell, the Parsons Road, John Bruce. 27 June 1748 > G-79: Ambrose Powell of Orange Co. 372 A. in said Co. Surv. Mr. George > Hume, Adj. Benjamin Powell, Richard Haleum, in Fork of Robinson R. 27 June > 1748 > > page 48 > G-507: George Bruce of Culpeper Co. 400 A. in Augusta Co. Surv. Mr. > George Hume. Adj. Darby Quin. 25 May 1751 > > the later ones: > page 126 > K-284: Joseph Hubbs of Frederick Co. 500 A. on Opeckon in said Co. Surv. > John Baylis. Adj. Abrahams Cr., Col. Benjamin Grayson, James Carter, James > & George Bruce, Rairfax Road, Thomas Perry, Joseph Carter, John Neile, > Richard Carter. 21 May 1761 > > page 219 > P-170: Mrs. Constance Chapman of Charles Co. Maryland 13 May 1769 obtained > Warrant for two tracts as lapsed on Dark Run in Robinson Fork in Culpepper > Co. granted by the Crown to John Bruce 19 June & 1 Aug. 1735 for 400 A. > each. Tracts lapsed for non-payment of Quit Rents. Mr. Henry Field Jr. > Collector on 29 Sept. 1767 reentered tracts. Resurv. by Richard Young shows > 865 A. (65 A. surplus). Caveat entered against her by William Booten on > behalf of himself and Margaret Bruce & John Bruce son of John Bruce. > Dispute determined in favor of Constant Chapman. Grant to Chapman. Adj. > said Bruce. 27 Nov. 1772. > > (that last one gives you two generations of Bruce) > > Hope some of this helps. > > I looked in Wayland's book - Chapter XVII talks about Kercheval and his > book - Kercheval's History of the Valley, printed at Winchester in > 1833.....before this book was printed, as was custom of the time, people > were asked to "subscribe" to the book. In other words, before the book was > published, a list was made of men who would buy the book. This way the > expense of printing was covered, etc....anyway, at the end of this 1833 book > Kercheval included a list of subscribers and on that list is a John Bruce. > > Mary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Garland" <medlar@umbc.edu> > To: <shenandoah@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: [SHENANDOAH] land grants - Bolton, Bruce, Shifflet > > > > Berryman Bruce > > Loudon Bruce > > Betty Bruce > > > > Thank you > > >