Hi, Rees. I am cleaning out the inbox on my old computer. I had saved the below e-mail from you. I have a little information about Moredock McKenzie....probably not as much as you, but I would be happy to share. And I have interest in Cole in the area that you describe below. Also I have Chapmans who ended up in what is now Cabell County, WV that I keep meaning to do more research on: But other researchers seem to tie them in with Culpeper and Giles County....If you are still doing research, I would like to talk with you about your ancestors. Marsha in WV > > > > > Just passin' thru. . . > > 1747 - Isaac CHAPMAN dies in Orange Co. > > 1767 - Moredock McKENZIE lives in Culpeper (perhaps now Rappahanock) near > Burgess River and Little River, adjacent Presley THORNTON. > > 1768 - McKENZIE departs for Shenandoah River with wife Jemimah CHAPMAN and > brothers-in-law Isaac, John and Richard CHAPMAN. > > 1771 - CHAPMAN and McKENZIE families move on to Botetourt Co. on the New > River, now Giles Co. > > I descend through John CHAPMAN and Sally Abbott. > > Anybody seen my ancestors? > > Rees > >

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Please delete this last message from list. It was sent in error. Thank you, carol

I have some mid 1700 families that seem to have spent some time in Shenandoah Co. before going to Augusta Co. My Greevers were German Grubers who sold their property in the Monacacy settlement in Frederick Co., MD in 1749. One of their sons m into the Bossang family and they were also in the Woodstock area. Another son seems to have m into the Ergenbrecht/Argenbright family. The Grubers and Argenbrights had come to Philadelphia in 1732. The Argenbrights m into the Hanger lines. If any of these pioneers belong to you, please get in touch Doris (GREAVER) Snyder

In the Dec 1, 2005 issue of The Free Press there is a picture of the above manufacturing company located on Water and High Streets in Woodstock, Va. Does someone know what they manufactured or have any information on the company? Thank you very much. Jan in Woodstock, Va

Can someone tell me where Teaberry Point was located. This is from the 1 Dec 2005 issue of The Free Press, Pages from newspapers past, "June 10, 1898, Miss Terrinda Polk of Teaberry Point was guest of Miss Jennie Hottel last Sunday..." Terrinda Ellen Polk was my 1st cousin. As far as I know, she was born and raised in the Conicville area. In Dec 1900 she married Horace Edward Bowers, who was also from Conicville. They both are buried at Bethel Lutheran Cemetery, Hamburg, Va. Thank you very much. Jan in Woodstock, Va

I was so excited that I was going to be in the area late Friday afternoon and early Saturday morning and thought I could do some genealogy research, but it looks like everything closes by 5 on Friday and does not open until 10 on Saturday morning. (I have to be at Menasses at 10) I'm coming back Sunday afternoon and was excited that the Handley library is open 1-5, but then I saw that the Archives section is closed. Would this be worth a stop anyway? Are there any resources that would be open Friday past 5? Thanks Jeff Bauserman

Hi everyone, This information came from another mailing list, I thought someone may find helpful... "LDS Family History Library has announced that it has begun the process of digitizing and making available on the Internet all of the Family History books in their collection. About 5000 books have been digitized and are available, and they have announced that they are adding about 100 titles a week to the on-line collection. Copyright issues are playing a role in determining the order in which they progress through this task; books out of copyright are being done first." Go to the web site of the Harold B. Lee Library at BYU, http://www.lib.byu.edu/ then on the home page, from the list of collections that are displayed, follow the links: Find Other Materials; Electronic; On Line Collections at BYU; Text Collections tab; Family History Archive, Search Fran

would anyone who wrote me in the past month for look ups in history of shenandoah county or the men in gray books please write me again. had some computer trouble. pennyrue66@aol.com

An antique shop in Warrenton has a collection of Hupp family tintypes. Some of the names: Catherine Hupp married "Bud" Reedy child Charles Reedy Calvin S. Hupp Mary Ellen (Moore) Hupp John Dewitt Hupp The shop is This "N" That, 211 Broadview Ave, Warrenton VA 540-341-7031 thisnthatantiques.com They're priced about $12. Maybe someone in the Hupp family knows who they are and can reach some descendants. Mitzi Price

Great site! Shows the counties as they form going through the years (1617 through 1961) "Virginia Formation Maps" _http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm_ (http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm)

I am searching for any information on the Crouse / Krouse / Beaty / Beatty families who were living in the Shenandoah Valley area, (particularly in Frederick and Warren Co.'s) during the late 1700's to late 1800's. I am particularly interested in the Robert Beatty (Beaty) family who lived near Middletown or Reliance from ca 1831 to very late 1800's. Robert married Jane E. Crouse. I have been trying for years to locate parents and/or siblings for this couple. They were married in 1831 in Frederick Co. VA. Thanks, Sharon Wilcox wilcoxphoto@dmci.net

I almost forgot, if you do visit the courthouse try to borrow a 5.0 Megapixel or better digital camera to photograph the deeds. this works well and is much faster and less expensive than paying 50 cents a page to have the people at the clerk's office photocopy them for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Redden" <paulredden@hotmail.com> To: <SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: Re: "Best" Library to VIsit > > I stand corrected. The site you listed has Frederick County deeds > available to 1867 (about 87 rolls of film) and the indexes (another half > dozen to dozen rolls) > > I still think it is easier to go through the original indexes and record > books at the courthouse where they are all together in one place rather > than having to order each roll of microfilm seperately and wait for it to > come in before you can find out which additional deed books it refers to > for a description of the property and order that roll as well. > > At the county courthouse, in the Clerk's office, and/or archives, you > usually have access to all of the Deeds, Wills, marriages, Chauncary > cases, etc. recorded in the county. Its usually all hand written before > abt 1900 on large ledger books. Many deeds don't describe the land, they > just say the land purchased in another deed and give the date, book and > page number of the earlier deed. As people often owned several pieces of > property you really have to trace back until you get a good description. > > Usually, if you are nice you can find someone who can show you how to use > the indexes as they are a little combersome to use. They usually don't > have paid staff with extra time to assist but the place is full of people > from title companies researching deeds for current property transfers. > > All of this information takes up hundreds of books (sometimes thousands) > and unless your library has all of the microfilms in house it can be > difficult to do in-depth research unless you actually go to the > courthouse. Sometimes the county library will have the microfilms for the > individual county but not usually the surrounding ones. Why go through > the microfilms though if you can go just down the street and go through > the original documents? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deb Wake" <DebBWake@comcast.net> > To: <SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:31 AM > Subject: RE: "Best" Library to VIsit > > >> Hi Paul, >> >> Not to be contrary, but most? of the early deeds and wills--depending >> upon the county--have been microfilmed. You can check out the holdings >> at the Library of Virginia. >> http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/index.htm >> The LDS has a search engine for their microfilm holdings, but I find it >> very frustrating to use. >> http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp >> >> If you do visit the Staunton, keep in mind that there are two courthouses >> there--the Augusta County Courthouse is located at 6 East Johnson St. >> (540)-245-5321. The Staunton City Courthouse is located at 113 East >> Beverly St. (540)-332-3874. >> >> Deb Wake >> Richmond, VA >> >> At 09:37 PM 7/7/2005, Paul Redden wrote: >>>Hi Janice, >>> >>>For basic genealogy information on the Valley, Handley Library in >>>downtown Winchester is probably your best bet. It is also a short walk >>>from both the Frederick County Courthouse and the Winchester Courthouse >>>where you can look up old deeds and wills in those jurisdictions (part of >>>Shenandoah county was originally Frederick County, the other part was >>>Augusta to the south. The Shenandoah County Library in Edinburg also has >>>some material also, however it is not as large and not close to the >>>County Courthouse. I am not familiar with the southern "upper" valley but >>>imagine that Augusta would probably have a good library and may be worth >>>a trip if your ancestors were from the southern part of Shenandoah >>>County. >>> >>>If you don't mind going just outside the Valley, the John Gott Memorial >>>library just off interstate 66 in Markham (Fauquier County) is full of >>>books donated by John Gott relating to genealogy and local history and >>>Loudoun County has a large public genealogical library just outside of >>>Leesburg. >>>Farther east, Fairfax is pretty good and there is always the DAR and the >>>Library of Congress in Washington itself. >>> >>>Your best bet with limited time is to visit the courthouses first and >>>trace the deeds back or find the wills. These usually aren't available >>>anywhere else except occationally as abstracts or indexes. >>> >>>>From: JANICE B PATTERSON <jlpatterson@juno.com> >>>>To: SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: "Best" Library to VIsit >>>>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:14:16 -0400 >>>> >>>>I may have a good chance to get to the Shenandoah Valley for some >>>>library >>>>research time this summer -- but I will probably only >>>>be able to dropped off at ONE library -- which one would have best >>>>collection for early material -- 1750s -1800? >>>> >>>>I'm tracing several lines -- one is a group of early Shenandoah Valley >>>>settlers from PA & the other is early Scots-Irish into >>>>Beverley Manor/Patent. >>>> >>>>Also, where do I locate early land/probate/marriage records for people >>>>who were in Harrison/Hardy counties around >>>>1780-1810 before these counties were in WV? >>>> >>>>FROM: >>>>Janice B. Patterson >>>>30967 Sassafras Lane >>>>Westlake OH 44145-5171 >>>>phone 440-835-9171 >>>> >>>> >>>>==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >>>> SHENANDOAH Families Mail List Archives: >>>> courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! >>>>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> Just type in the mail list's name: SHENANDOAH >>> >>> >>> >>>==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >>>Your support of RootsWeb helps make SHENANDOAH-L possible. >>>RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> >> >> >> ==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >> Did you know that only 7% of Rootsweb subscribers support Rootsweb? >> Thank you for your generous financial support of Rootsweb! >> RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> >> > > > ==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > WHO, WHEN, and WHERE are the three essential ingredients for successful > genealogical research! Please be certain to include all three when > posting > queries to the SHENANDOAH Families Mail List. > >

I stand corrected. The site you listed has Frederick County deeds available to 1867 (about 87 rolls of film) and the indexes (another half dozen to dozen rolls) I still think it is easier to go through the original indexes and record books at the courthouse where they are all together in one place rather than having to order each roll of microfilm seperately and wait for it to come in before you can find out which additional deed books it refers to for a description of the property and order that roll as well. At the county courthouse, in the Clerk's office, and/or archives, you usually have access to all of the Deeds, Wills, marriages, Chauncary cases, etc. recorded in the county. Its usually all hand written before abt 1900 on large ledger books. Many deeds don't describe the land, they just say the land purchased in another deed and give the date, book and page number of the earlier deed. As people often owned several pieces of property you really have to trace back until you get a good description. Usually, if you are nice you can find someone who can show you how to use the indexes as they are a little combersome to use. They usually don't have paid staff with extra time to assist but the place is full of people from title companies researching deeds for current property transfers. All of this information takes up hundreds of books (sometimes thousands) and unless your library has all of the microfilms in house it can be difficult to do in-depth research unless you actually go to the courthouse. Sometimes the county library will have the microfilms for the individual county but not usually the surrounding ones. Why go through the microfilms though if you can go just down the street and go through the original documents? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Wake" <DebBWake@comcast.net> To: <SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: RE: "Best" Library to VIsit > Hi Paul, > > Not to be contrary, but most? of the early deeds and wills--depending upon > the county--have been microfilmed. You can check out the holdings at the > Library of Virginia. > http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/index.htm > The LDS has a search engine for their microfilm holdings, but I find it > very frustrating to use. > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > > If you do visit the Staunton, keep in mind that there are two courthouses > there--the Augusta County Courthouse is located at 6 East Johnson St. > (540)-245-5321. The Staunton City Courthouse is located at 113 East > Beverly St. (540)-332-3874. > > Deb Wake > Richmond, VA > > At 09:37 PM 7/7/2005, Paul Redden wrote: >>Hi Janice, >> >>For basic genealogy information on the Valley, Handley Library in downtown >>Winchester is probably your best bet. It is also a short walk from both >>the Frederick County Courthouse and the Winchester Courthouse where you >>can look up old deeds and wills in those jurisdictions (part of Shenandoah >>county was originally Frederick County, the other part was Augusta to the >>south. The Shenandoah County Library in Edinburg also has some material >>also, however it is not as large and not close to the County Courthouse. >>I am not familiar with the southern "upper" valley but imagine that >>Augusta would probably have a good library and may be worth a trip if your >>ancestors were from the southern part of Shenandoah County. >> >>If you don't mind going just outside the Valley, the John Gott Memorial >>library just off interstate 66 in Markham (Fauquier County) is full of >>books donated by John Gott relating to genealogy and local history and >>Loudoun County has a large public genealogical library just outside of >>Leesburg. >>Farther east, Fairfax is pretty good and there is always the DAR and the >>Library of Congress in Washington itself. >> >>Your best bet with limited time is to visit the courthouses first and >>trace the deeds back or find the wills. These usually aren't available >>anywhere else except occationally as abstracts or indexes. >> >>>From: JANICE B PATTERSON <jlpatterson@juno.com> >>>To: SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: "Best" Library to VIsit >>>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:14:16 -0400 >>> >>>I may have a good chance to get to the Shenandoah Valley for some library >>>research time this summer -- but I will probably only >>>be able to dropped off at ONE library -- which one would have best >>>collection for early material -- 1750s -1800? >>> >>>I'm tracing several lines -- one is a group of early Shenandoah Valley >>>settlers from PA & the other is early Scots-Irish into >>>Beverley Manor/Patent. >>> >>>Also, where do I locate early land/probate/marriage records for people >>>who were in Harrison/Hardy counties around >>>1780-1810 before these counties were in WV? >>> >>>FROM: >>>Janice B. Patterson >>>30967 Sassafras Lane >>>Westlake OH 44145-5171 >>>phone 440-835-9171 >>> >>> >>>==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >>> SHENANDOAH Families Mail List Archives: >>> courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! >>>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>> Just type in the mail list's name: SHENANDOAH >> >> >> >>==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >>Your support of RootsWeb helps make SHENANDOAH-L possible. >>RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > ==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > Did you know that only 7% of Rootsweb subscribers support Rootsweb? > Thank you for your generous financial support of Rootsweb! > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Several of the libraries in the Valley have their catalogs online. Handley Regional Library's catalog can be viewed and searched at <http://www.hrl.lib.state.va.us/TLCScripts/interpac.dll?SearchForm &Directions=1&Config=pac> Shenandoah County Library's catalog can be viewed and searched at <http://www.youseemore.com/shenandoah/default.asp> Waynesboro, Augusta County, Staunton libraries' catalog can be viewed and searched at <http://www.valleylibraries.org/TLCScripts/interpac.dll?SearchForm? Directions=1&config=pac> Even the libraries of the eight easternmost counties of West Virginia (Jefferson, Berkeley, Morgan, Hampshire, Hardy, Grant, Mineral and Pendleton) can be viewed and searched at <http://martsubhub.lib.wv.us/TLCScripts/interpac.dll?SearchForm& Directions=1&Config=1ysm&Branch=1,102,103,104,105> These are long links, so it might be best to copy and paste them to your browser. You may wonder how I know about these links (a little plug here). I work for the company that created the online automation systems for these libraries. The database (not the visual interface) you use in your searches of these libraries' catalogs is my work, but despite the personal connection, it is VERY useful to have this information available online and free. You can search by subject and enter the surnames you are looking for. If you have a card at these libraries, you can even reserve books online. I know that Handley and Shenandoah County Libraries' have cataloged their genealogical/historical items to include surnames. This might help save time on your visit to the area. If you have the need for information from Berkeley County, WEST Virginia, please let me know. I can help you find what you are looking for (its where I live). AND to second Deb's sentiments (and as my eleven year old daughter would say), the Library of Virginia website ROCKS! Especially the digital collections. Hope this helps save you time during your visit. Don Don Silvius Co-coordinator Shenandoah County, Virginia GenWeb Project <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html>

Hi Paul, Not to be contrary, but most? of the early deeds and wills--depending upon the county--have been microfilmed. You can check out the holdings at the Library of Virginia. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/index.htm The LDS has a search engine for their microfilm holdings, but I find it very frustrating to use. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp If you do visit the Staunton, keep in mind that there are two courthouses there--the Augusta County Courthouse is located at 6 East Johnson St. (540)-245-5321. The Staunton City Courthouse is located at 113 East Beverly St. (540)-332-3874. Deb Wake Richmond, VA At 09:37 PM 7/7/2005, Paul Redden wrote: >Hi Janice, > >For basic genealogy information on the Valley, Handley Library in downtown >Winchester is probably your best bet. It is also a short walk from both >the Frederick County Courthouse and the Winchester Courthouse where you >can look up old deeds and wills in those jurisdictions (part of Shenandoah >county was originally Frederick County, the other part was Augusta to the >south. The Shenandoah County Library in Edinburg also has some material >also, however it is not as large and not close to the County >Courthouse. I am not familiar with the southern "upper" valley but >imagine that Augusta would probably have a good library and may be worth a >trip if your ancestors were from the southern part of Shenandoah County. > >If you don't mind going just outside the Valley, the John Gott Memorial >library just off interstate 66 in Markham (Fauquier County) is full of >books donated by John Gott relating to genealogy and local history and >Loudoun County has a large public genealogical library just outside of >Leesburg. >Farther east, Fairfax is pretty good and there is always the DAR and the >Library of Congress in Washington itself. > >Your best bet with limited time is to visit the courthouses first and >trace the deeds back or find the wills. These usually aren't available >anywhere else except occationally as abstracts or indexes. > >>From: JANICE B PATTERSON <jlpatterson@juno.com> >>To: SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: "Best" Library to VIsit >>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:14:16 -0400 >> >>I may have a good chance to get to the Shenandoah Valley for some library >>research time this summer -- but I will probably only >>be able to dropped off at ONE library -- which one would have best >>collection for early material -- 1750s -1800? >> >>I'm tracing several lines -- one is a group of early Shenandoah Valley >>settlers from PA & the other is early Scots-Irish into >>Beverley Manor/Patent. >> >>Also, where do I locate early land/probate/marriage records for people >>who were in Harrison/Hardy counties around >>1780-1810 before these counties were in WV? >> >>FROM: >>Janice B. Patterson >>30967 Sassafras Lane >>Westlake OH 44145-5171 >>phone 440-835-9171 >> >> >>==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >> SHENANDOAH Families Mail List Archives: >> courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> Just type in the mail list's name: SHENANDOAH > > > >==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >Your support of RootsWeb helps make SHENANDOAH-L possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hi Janice, For basic genealogy information on the Valley, Handley Library in downtown Winchester is probably your best bet. It is also a short walk from both the Frederick County Courthouse and the Winchester Courthouse where you can look up old deeds and wills in those jurisdictions (part of Shenandoah county was originally Frederick County, the other part was Augusta to the south. The Shenandoah County Library in Edinburg also has some material also, however it is not as large and not close to the County Courthouse. I am not familiar with the southern "upper" valley but imagine that Augusta would probably have a good library and may be worth a trip if your ancestors were from the southern part of Shenandoah County. If you don't mind going just outside the Valley, the John Gott Memorial library just off interstate 66 in Markham (Fauquier County) is full of books donated by John Gott relating to genealogy and local history and Loudoun County has a large public genealogical library just outside of Leesburg. Farther east, Fairfax is pretty good and there is always the DAR and the Library of Congress in Washington itself. Your best bet with limited time is to visit the courthouses first and trace the deeds back or find the wills. These usually aren't available anywhere else except occationally as abstracts or indexes. >From: JANICE B PATTERSON <jlpatterson@juno.com> >To: SHENANDOAH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: "Best" Library to VIsit >Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:14:16 -0400 > >I may have a good chance to get to the Shenandoah Valley for some library >research time this summer -- but I will probably only >be able to dropped off at ONE library -- which one would have best >collection for early material -- 1750s -1800? > >I'm tracing several lines -- one is a group of early Shenandoah Valley >settlers from PA & the other is early Scots-Irish into >Beverley Manor/Patent. > >Also, where do I locate early land/probate/marriage records for people >who were in Harrison/Hardy counties around >1780-1810 before these counties were in WV? > >FROM: >Janice B. Patterson >30967 Sassafras Lane >Westlake OH 44145-5171 >phone 440-835-9171 > > >==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > SHENANDOAH Families Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: SHENANDOAH >

Hi Janice, According to http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvgenweb/: <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ewvhampsh/>Hampshire was formed in 1754 from Frederick and Augusta Counties; county seat: Romney <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ewvhardy/>Hardy was formed in 1786 from Hampshire County; county seat: Moorefield <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ewvharris/>Harrison was formed in 1784 from Monongalia County, Ohio; county seat: Clarksburg <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ewvmonong/>Monongalia was formed in 1776 from the District of West Augusta; county seat: Morgantown It may depend upon which family you are researching where in order for you to determine your best strategy. Many of the early records are on microfilm and can be found through an LDS family history center or at the Library of Virginia in Richmond, VA. The staff at the Library of Virginia are second to none. If you want to see what records they have on microfilm, you might search: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/local_rec/county_city/index.htm Many, if not all, of these should be available through the LDS. The Library of Virginia does have some microfilm for West Virginia, but the quality of the records filmed is very poor. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/WVA_Records.htm If you want to visit local libraries with genealogical collections, you might check out: * Handley Library, Winchester, Frederick Co., VA http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/library.htm * Shenandoah Public Library, Edinburg, Shenandoah Co., VA Here's a link to their microfilm collection: http://www.shenandoah.co.lib.va.us/archives/microfilmcollections.htm They also have a nice book collection for genealogical research and the Mid-Atlantic Germanic Society now houses their collection there. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usmags/ * Massanutten Regional Library, Harrisonburg, Rockingham Co., VA http://www.mrlib.org/genealogy.htm * Staunton Public Library, Staunton, Augusta Co., VA: http://www.staunton.va.us/default.asp?pageID=48BD7E6B-787C-49EE-A7C1-8DD714653A32 And, there are the courthouses! Good luck! Deb Wake Richmond, VA At 12:14 PM 7/6/2005, JANICE B PATTERSON wrote: >I may have a good chance to get to the Shenandoah Valley for some library >research time this summer -- but I will probably only >be able to dropped off at ONE library -- which one would have best >collection for early material -- 1750s -1800? > >I'm tracing several lines -- one is a group of early Shenandoah Valley >settlers from PA & the other is early Scots-Irish into >Beverley Manor/Patent. > >Also, where do I locate early land/probate/marriage records for people >who were in Harrison/Hardy counties around >1780-1810 before these counties were in WV? > >FROM: >Janice B. Patterson >30967 Sassafras Lane >Westlake OH 44145-5171 >phone 440-835-9171 > > >==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > SHENANDOAH Families Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: SHENANDOAH

I may have a good chance to get to the Shenandoah Valley for some library research time this summer -- but I will probably only be able to dropped off at ONE library -- which one would have best collection for early material -- 1750s -1800? I'm tracing several lines -- one is a group of early Shenandoah Valley settlers from PA & the other is early Scots-Irish into Beverley Manor/Patent. Also, where do I locate early land/probate/marriage records for people who were in Harrison/Hardy counties around 1780-1810 before these counties were in WV? FROM: Janice B. Patterson 30967 Sassafras Lane Westlake OH 44145-5171 phone 440-835-9171

Jackie, Are there any early records available for St. Peters Church? Nicholas Schmucker performed the marriage of my ancestors Abraham Lindamood and Frances Ruble on 10 Feb 1829, but I've not been able to find a church record for the marriage (or for her baptism). I'm looking for any listings for Ruble or Lindamood from 1800-1840. (I have seen Klaus Wust's books for Zion-Pine, Lutheran Zion-Pine, and Old Pine. Also "Faith in the Valley" vol. I-V.) Thanks, Rita At 09:14 AM 7/2/05 -0400, you wrote: >I am looking for the given name of Rev. I. Heller of the St. Peters Reformed >Shenandoah Valley Va. about 1842 My ancestor Rev. John Nicholas Schmucker was > one of the ministers of that church Lutheran congregation. Nicholas married >Catherine Heller in 1800 her father is suppose to be John Heller. I have had >difficulty tracing my Heller line, thought this Rev. I. Heller might give me >a clue since he is preaching in the same church. I know there was a John and >Elizabeth Heller in Rockingham Co. Peaked Mt. Church in 1776 who had a Anna >Marie baptised there I can get no further info about him. This John would be >in the correct time frame to be father of my Catherine. > Thanks for reading this Jackie > > >==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== >Your support of RootsWeb helps make SHENANDOAH-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >