I research the Winton family and was given information that they were in Shenandoah Co., VA for a time before they moved into what became Tennessee. William and Betsey Winton's last child, George may have been born there in 1782. Their son, John Winton was said to have married at Woodstock, Shenandoah Co., VA 15 May 1784, but their daughter Margaret Winton married 20 Nov 1785 Greene Co., Tn to James M. Dunn and Wm Winton was bondsman. Does anyone have any records with this family listed in Shenandoah Co., Va? Peggy

For what it's worth, My greatgrandfather, William Martin Allen, apprenticed to a Mr. Lichtliter in Grundy county, Missouri in the late 1850s. William had been born in Scott county, Illinois. William's father, James, was born in Casey county, Kentucky and his father, John, was born in Frederick county, Virginia. John's father was Benjamin and Ben's father was Robert Allen, who arrived in the colonies about 1735 from county Armagh in northern Ireland. Could there be a connection between William's Mr. Lichtliter and the Frederick county Lichtliters, if the families migrated west together. The idea is intriguing. Yours truly, Bill and Loydean Allen end -----Original Message----- From: J. R. Carpenter Jr. <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:48 PM Subject: LICHLITER family (various spellings) >Hello, > >I would like to find out the relationship between the family of Adam >LICHLITER Sr. and the family of Cornelius B. LICHLITER, if any. Corrections >to any of my info are welcome too. > >

Researching the following: Rev. Adam Adolph SPINDLER/SPINDLE Born ca 1761 - of German descent m. (1) Catherine ENGLEMAN (dau of Peter and Ann) m. (2) Elizabeth Cowman b 10 Dec 1766 in VA (dau of Johannes KAUMANN/COWMAN and Mary. (Johannes Kaumann/Cowman, b 24 Apr 1732 immigrated from Germany 27 Sep 1753 aboard the ship Windsor.) Rev. Spindler lived at Sugar Loaf (aka Spindle's Hill) nr. Middlebrook, Augusta Co., VA Children of Adam Adolph and Elizabeth: 1. Philip m. Elizabeth ZUMBRO dau of Georg Zumbro and Margarethe. 2. David m. Mary "Polly" Hutchens dau of Thomas J. Hutchens and Rachael "Marian" WELLS 3. Elizabeth m. Jacob BROOKS John Cowman Spindle m. Rebecca Hutchens (Mary "Polly" Hutchens sister) 4. Mary "Polly" and Rebecca were also sisters to: Lucretia Cane Hutchens who married Peter Hemp. Rev. Spindler (Lutheran) was the resident minister of St. John's Reformed nr. Middlebrook, Augusta Co., VA and began the first Lutheran Church (Spindler's Meeting House) in Crimora, Augusta Co., VA. He died 6 Oct 1826 at about 65 years of age and is buried in St. John's Reformed Church Cemetery. His wife: Elizabeth (Cowman) Spindle died 20 Feb 1850 and is buried in Mt. Tabor Lutheran Church Cemetery. Any info on the above underlined surnames would be appreciated. Katie

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In a message dated 4/1/99 6:59:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, MCLEANSUSA writes: << How could I get a copy of this book? >> Sue, These are a series of Shenandoah Co., VA Deed book abstracts - 9 volumes in all [1772-1820] ... Each volume is about 200+ pages and sells for $25.00 each. You might be able to find them in your local library if they have a genealogy section ... Thank you for your inquiry ... Amy Gilreath

Hi, In her book on Shenandoah County Deeds, Amy Gilreath states that a deed "was signed in German" Specifically, this was a deed recorded Mar 8, 1802 and the grantor was Jacob Inabnet Junior. The question is "are the original signatures on these deeds or are these deeds copies of deeds made by scribes who then in turn wrote "signed in German"?? Help anybody, especially..... Thank you, Louie

Does anybody recognize this family from the 1860 Bath co. census? The surname might also be spelled Knafe, Naffe, Knave, Nave, Ness, Nepp, or something I have't even thought of! I'm hoping to find the wife's maiden name, with a source. June 08, 1860, p.19/247, Cleeks Mills PO George Neff 45 m laborer, P=100 Belinda 37 f Washington 24 m laborer Caroline 20 f Isabella 18 f Sarah A. 15 f Frank 6 m So far, I've been unable to locate George in the 1850 VA census for clues on where they might have married or lived before Bath, but there's a good chance they married in an adjacent county. Note that Belinda is probably a 2nd wife, married in the last 10 years or so, based on the children's ages. Thanks for any help, Holly ------------------ Holly Wanless Cochran Please visit my 3 websites: Hollyhock Press: http://id.mind.net/~cochran/hollyhock/ My Wanless Family Genealogy: http://id.mind.net/~cochran/ralphdsc/ Wan(d)less One-Name Study: http://id.mind.net/~cochran/wanlessweb/

Hello, I would like to find out the relationship between the family of Adam LICHLITER Sr. and the family of Cornelius B. LICHLITER, if any. Corrections to any of my info are welcome too. Adam LICHLITER Sr. (will written 8 Dec 1826 in Shenandoah Co VA, proven 8 Jan 1827) married to Cathrine --?--. Adam had a brother John LICHLITER (as per Adam's will), and I think he had a brother Jacob LICHLITER (there are numerous marriages of children of Jacob Lichliter at the same times as those marriages of Adam's children). Adam Sr. and Cathrine had children: 1. Catherine LICHLITER married 15 Apr 1805 to Henry SIEBERT. 2. Barbara LICHLITER married 29 Jan 1816 to John KENESLEY/KNISELY. 3. Magdalen LICHLITER married 4 Aug 1823 in Shenandoah Co VA to Solomon SMITH. 4. Henry LICHLITER. 5. Adam LICHLITER Jr. married 28 Oct 1816 in Shenandoah Co VA to Catherine KELLER (b. 8 Nov 1792). 6. Conrad LICHLITER married 21 Apr 1804 in Shenandoah Co VA to Sarah HARMAN. 7. Jacob LICHLITER married 7 Oct 1811 in Shenandoah Co VA to Lydia SHANK. 8. Daniel LICHLITER married 19 Nov 1817 in Shenandoah Co VA to Elizabeth SHIPE. 9. David LICHLITER married 5 Aug 1822 in Shenandoah Co VA to Cathrine CLEM. Elizabeth F. PENCE (b. 7 Aug 1837, d. 28 Feb 1920) married first 17 Jun 1857 in Shenandoah Co VA to John BOWERS, married second 16 May 1872 to Cornelius B. LICHLITER (b. ca 1843). John was killed in the War Between the States. Cornelius was the son of John LICHLITER and Mary Ann --?--. Cornelius enlisted 6 Aug 1861 as a private in Co. C, 136th Virginia Militia (Confederate). He enlisted 19 Feb 1862 in Martinsburg, Virginia as a private in Co. K, 7th Virginia Cav. (CSA). He was paroled 26 Apr 1865 by Federal forces in Winchester, Virginia. Elizabeth is buried in the Lichliter Cemetery, Detrick, Shenandoah Co VA. Children of Elizabeth and Cornelius: 1. Kirby L. LICHLITER (b. ca 1873, d. ca 1958) married 26 Dec 1896 to Daisy C. BOOTH. Kirby is buried in Peters Cemetery, Ft. Valley, Virginia. 2. Marion LICHLITER (b. ca 1875, d. ca 1941) married 12 Apr 1896 to Laura RITENOUR (b. ca 1877, d. ca 1965). Marion and Laura are buried in the Detrick Cemetery, Ft. Valley, Virginia. I have a lot of other Lichliter (and varied spellings) marriages listed from "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds, 1772-1853" by Ashby to share. Thank you, Rick [email protected] (there is an underscore between GRA and JRC)

In a message dated 3/31/99 9:41:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << The question is "are the original signatures on these deeds or are these deeds copies of deeds made by scribes who then in turn wrote "signed in German"?? Help anybody, especially..... >> Louie, The Deeds were written by the Clerk ... There were some who signed their names in the German language - I do not read German so I was the one who wrote in my abstracts that the signature was written in German. Sorry if there was some confusion over this ... Amy Gilreath

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Hi all, I had just recently sent a post inquiring any information on William and Catherine Stacey Hill in Shenandoah after 1780. Rick Monroe was so kind to give me the census data on this family: John and Simon Hill 1810 census John Hill 1820 census Joseph Hill 1830 census Mary Hill John N.Hill 1840 census John and Simon Hill were sons of William and Catherine Stacey Hill, I do have many records of them in Fauquier Co. Before they moved to Shenandoah. I also asked Rick for Holmes census info: 2 William Holmes 1810 census 2 William Holmes 1820 census Alexander Holmes Edmund Holmes John Holmes Samuel Holmes William Holmes 1830 census Alexander Holmes Edmund Holmes James Holmes Samuel Holmes William W. Holmes 1840 census William W. Holmes 1850 census Is anyone connected to these family lines? Thanks, Valerie Holmes Thomas [email protected] http://members.xoom.com/holmes2/holmes.htm

Dear Valerie: I saw your post on Hill in Shenandoah area and wondered if you have heard of these folks. George S. Hill b1874 married Bettie E. Cooley 2Jun1894 in Middletown, Frederick Co, VA. George's birth was in Shenandoah Co and his parents are listed as Joseph and Frances Hill. Bettie Cooley's birth is 1874 and her parents are listed as Robert and Martha Fauver Cooley. According to the friend I am helping , he had always been told the family was from Senandoah Co, we don't know where before that. Boy I hope you can help us. George S. and Bettie Cooley had a son George Henry Hill who married Edith Fletcher. Thanks....Lyle Corder

Hello this my first posting to the list. I am seeking any information on William Hill after 1780. His son George Hill could also be in Shenandoah Co. in this time frame. William and Catherine Stacey Hill were from Stafford/Prince William/Fauquier Co.'s. In a record of 1780 he is selling land in Fauquier Co. and it states resident of Shenandoah Co. I have much information on this family. They are also connected to the Holmes Family. Any information would be appreciated. I do have most all books available from Stafford/Prince William/Fauquier Counties, I would be happy to share any info. Thank you, Valerie Holmes Thomas [email protected] http://members.xoom.com/holmes2/holmes.htm

I am on a wild goose chase I know and this may be a shot in the dark, but maybe someone out there can help. Here's my story. I am looking for my gggg grandfather, George W. EDDY (I don't know what the W. stands for. My hunch is that it stands for Washington, but it's only a hunch). The info I have has him born in 1801. Two different sources have him born in either New York or New England (quite broad I know). His parents (I don't know their names) died when he was young and he was left in the care of an uncle. Apparently this uncle was "cruel" to him and he left at an early age and went to sea. He led a seafaring life for seven years, returned to North Carolina briefly and then to Virginia. He was married in 1828 (possibly 4 May 1828) to Lucinda TAYLOR who was born 6 Jul 1814 in Virginia (I have no county for her birth). I have her parents listed as Solomon TAYLOR and Sarah LANGSTON with no further info on them either. I assume they're from Virginia also. At least that's why I'm looking here. I do have conflicting info that George and Lucinda may have married in Knox Co, TN though. Although that doesn't make sense. Anyway, sometime after they married they ended up in White Co, TN and had their first child, John A. EDDY (my direct line) in 1831. Lucinda's parents may have migrated with them??? They then moved when John was 18 months old to Allen Co, KY where they settled and died. They had a total of 9 children. I get much of this information from a biography that is posted on the Allen Co, KY genweb site their son, John A. EDDY. I contacted someone who was working on the EDDY line off the VAGENWEB and she gave me some counties to start looking in. She said their were EDDYs in Frederick and Botetourt Counties. She also mentioned looking in Montgomery and Franklin counties which I know aren't covered on this list. What I'm looking for is pretty much anything that may be helpful in my further search. Is there anyone out there who may have info on this EDDY line possibly this TAYLOR line that I am looking at? I am open to any hints or if anyone wants to point me in a certain direction. Thank you so much in advance. Amy Leavens Snohomish, WA

I am searching for a Jacob (Schmidt) and Elizabeth (Hess) or (Hiest) Smith family. They emigrated to America abt 1748 and landed in VA. They had the following children??? - John born abt 1745, Cassel Hesse, Germany, Zachariah born abt 1746 in Germany, Mary born abt 1747 in Germany, Thomas born abt 1751, Anna born abt 1752, Jacob born abt 1754, Matthew born abt 1756 and Henry born abt 1760. They last children were born in VA. Henry maried Mary (Honecker) Honaker, abt 1787, Frederick Co., VA. Can anyone out there help. I only have information on Henry and Mary. Thanks

I am searching for information on the names Breneman and Craun from Augusta and Rockingham Counties. David Breneman had a son Paul David who married Edith Craun. They moved to Loudoun County in December of 1907 or early 1908. Any one working on either of these names that can share information? Anything will be appreciated. I am the grandson of Paul and Edith. Louis Hawes

The Asimus's wrote: > > Hi, > I am new to the list, I am looking for anyone that is researching the > Shaver/Shavour line. I have a John Shaver born 145/46 Germany, he > married Elizabeth Pence on July 19, 1784 in Shenandoah County, Va. He > died in 1851 in Boone County, Ky. > I think he might have been a Mennonite or Baptist. > Robyn > > -- > Dan and Robyn Asimus > Golden, CO 80403 > mailto:[email protected] > > ==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? Please contact: [email protected] > List Adm for SHENANDOAH-L and SHENANDOAH-D > Now with over 725 subscribers! Robyn, I'm not researching Shaver/Shavour...but I run across them often in Botetourt County. On occasion my Sarver has been enumerated as Shaver/Shawver, etc. I just looked in a couple of Botetourt County Marriage books I have...lots of Shaver/Shavour...if you're missing one he might have "driven down I-81" to have a look at Botetourt! Let me know if I can do a Look Up for you. LOL Cara

In a message dated 3/23/99 8:14:04 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I am searching for information on the names Breneman and Craun from Augusta and Rockingham Counties. >> The Breneman family in Rockingham Co., Va. for which I have records is my wife's family. The earliest I have is her ancestor Abraham Breneman who was born about 1744 in Lancaster Co., Pa. and died after returning from the war of 1812. He married Magdalena Shank. Their son Henry Breneman, born 1766 and died 1791 in Rockingham, married Barbara Beery. Abraham Breneman's second wife Marie Reif, b 1746 in Lancaster Co., Pa. and d abt 1788 in Rockingham, is my wife's ancestor. Their daughter Anna Barbara Breneman, born abt 1780 in Rockingham, married Jacob H. Hildebrand. This is my wife's line. Abraham and Marie had the following other children: Magdalena Breneman, born 1770 Melchior Breneman, b 1775 Frances Breneman, b 1777 Daniel Breneman, b 1782, married Anna Magdalena Burkholder who was born in Rockingham about 1780 Abraham Breneman, Jr., b 1785 Eve Margaret Breneman, b 1788 just a few days prior to her mother's death I have no idea how many other Brenemans may have migrated to Rockingham, but Abraham Breneman is the emigrant to the county from Pa. for this family. It would appear that many of the related families were of either German or Swiss ancestry. If anyone knows anything further about this Breneman family I would like to hear from them. John

Hi, I am new to the list, I am looking for anyone that is researching the Shaver/Shavour line. I have a John Shaver born 145/46 Germany, he married Elizabeth Pence on July 19, 1784 in Shenandoah County, Va. He died in 1851 in Boone County, Ky. I think he might have been a Mennonite or Baptist. Robyn -- Dan and Robyn Asimus Golden, CO 80403 mailto:[email protected]

Hmm. . . Am I still subscribed? I spoke genealogical heresy re: Thomas and Isaac Chapman in response to Ann's kind response, and have heard nothing since. Rees