I would like to suggest to the SHELTON-L group & also the Knights5 group that when we refer to John Shelton, that has been referred to as (Cut-Off-John) we refer to him as John Shelton, son Ralph Shelton Jr. died 1789, son of Ralph Shelton Sr. died 1733. Hildred Shelton has researched this & says that this John does not deserve the label of ( Cut-Of-John). It would be a little more typing. Sally, no offence to you, but by doing this we can give John Shelton, son of Ralph Shelton Jr. died 1789, son of Ralph Shelton Sr. died 1733, the respect that he deserves. Walter Shelton Jr. SH-33