Loyal seems to have been born in North Carolina. Here is the 1880 Census. I hit a dead-end with his parents. Any info is welcome Thanks 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Loyal W. A. Shaw Home in 1880: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Birthplace: North Carolina Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Jane E. Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph H. WILSON Father's birthplace: North Carolina Mother's birthplace: North Carolina Occupation: Fireman Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Loyal W. A. Shaw 36 Jane E. Shaw 41 Mary Ann Shaw 12 Herman D. Shaw 9 Loyal W. Shaw 4 Margaret Shaw 2 Joseph H. Wilson 73 Fred Kunchick AMSOIL T1 Certified Account Direct Pennsauken, Camden County, New Jersey http://www.lubedealer.com/kunchick/ 856-317-0278