Sandra, The 37 marker test is generally the minimum accepted # of markers to prove a relationship, 36 or 37 of 37 markers, with high probability at 35 of 37 markers and obtain your HaploGroup, etc.. You can pay $189 just for that test. This is a good option for many folks to start at no cost as I stated in my original e-mail, "take the 37 Marker Y-DNA test for free from SMGF and then post their sample numbers from that site to FTDNA where we can conduct more detailed genealogy discussions and other testing for SNPs, 67 Marker Y-DNA, Mt-DNA, etc. since SMGF doesn't send all of the other data and proposed Haplos to you, but it is accessible on-line with pedigrees." In many cases folks will be able to establish alot of realtionships, easily, with the 37 Marker test and pedigrees which you can see on-line at SMGF. I've been looking at many of their Surname and HaploGroups for the past week. Others will want to examine relationships in more detail with the 67 Marker Test, SNP test, etc.. SMGF and FTDNA among others make even more money off of the follow-on and Mt-DNA testing, etc.. You do have to set up the basic 37 Marker Y-DNA test for the male members of your line. Anyone can use the forms of Mt-DNA for maternal lines as I understand it but those are expensive and take time. I started with the 67 Marker Test and just ordered SNP testting for HaploGroup E3b1 when I received the first results last night. It turns out our line has some of the rarest DNA in Scotland. One HaploGroup with 10 distinct SNPs isolated in several regions of the world which makes it easier to trace - if folks participate. Hope this helps. Chuck Shaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Long" <sanjlong@tds.net> To: <shaw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [SHAW] ATTENTION SHAW FAMILIES: Federal Grant Money for FreeY-DNATesting >I went to the site and checked it out.. It said that you will not receive > any results back from the Test.. If that is so how does this work.. since I > am female do I have to set the account up in the Male's name that I convince > to participate in this ... If I want to see results then do we have to pay > for those.. I searched the site over and could not find any explanation.... > If I could get several family males to participate could we test for several > surnames... I know it said free kits but what about the results. It is also > just the 37 marker test. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise Shaw" <dmcshaw@hughes.net> > To: <MDCHARLE@rootsweb.com>; <SHAW@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:34 PM > Subject: [SHAW] ATTENTION SHAW FAMILIES: Federal Grant Money for Free > Y-DNATesting > > >> On behalf of Chuck Shaw, Gainesville, VA, the following information is >> being >> passed on in hopes of getting as many Shaw descendants as possible to >> participate in free DNA testing for genealogy research: >> >> >> >> The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) has received Federal >> Grant money to provide Y-DNA Testing free of charge to participants. This >> is >> actually the 37 Marker Y-DNA test considered the minimum number of markers >> to obtain subclades and differentiate distinct family groups/lines. Go to >> their website at www.SMGF.org to sign up for an account and for a free DNA >> test kit. >> >> >> >> Also of interest, since Shaw is predominantly Borderer Scots with >> extensions >> to the Highlands, Ireland/Ulster, and England/Yorkshire, and normally >> Haplotype R1b, it is one of the most common types/groups observed and easy >> to have false mappings between families. I'd suggest we get everyone >> possible to take the 37 Marker Y-DNA test for free from SMGF and then post >> their sample numbers from that site to FTDNA where we can conduct more >> detailed genealogy discussions and other testing for SNPs, 67 Marker >> Y-DNA, >> Mt-DNA, etc. SMGF doesn't send all of the other data and proposed Haplos >> to >> you, but it is accessible on-line with pedigrees. >> >> >> >> This would help get as many Shaws tested at 37 Markers as possible, which >> would then allow other sponsorship of additional testing for 67 Markers, >> SNPs, research, etc. >> >> >> >> Please consider taking advantage of this offer of free Y-DNA testing to >> help >> prove your Shaw ancestry. >> >> >> >> Denise Shaw >> >> dmcshaw@hughes.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: >> 11/18/2007 5:15 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message