Ah, you bring up a good point. The Chinese name "Hsia" is pronounced "Shaw" -- not just "like" it but exactly like it. No relation, of course. In addition, there is a considerable number of Chinese appearing Shaws in Hong Kong who probably are related. There is a Danish name (I haven't found those notes -- especially a newspaper article) which looks completely different but is pronounced "Vanshaw". The article said many east Texas Shaw families are descended from them, as some came into Texas pre-Republic to settle the Peters Colony. QUOTE OF THE DAY "Although we modern persons tend to take our electric lights, radios, mixers, etc., for granted, hundreds of years ago people did not have any of these things, which is just as well because there was no place to plug them in. Then along came the first Electrical Pioneer, Benjamin Franklin, who flew a kite in a lighting storm and received a serious electrical shock. This proved that lighting was powered by the same force as carpets, but it also damaged Franklin's brain so severely that he started speaking only in incomprehensible maxims, such as 'A penny saved is a penny earned.' Eventually he had to be given a job running the post office." --Dave Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Domhnall Shaw o'Seaghdha <domhnall@sover.net> To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [SHAW] Shaw Families From Different Countries!!! > Oh, you are a luck woman, Viola! Truly, a lucky woman... > > My Shaws think they came over on the Goodspeed, the 2nd ship after the > Mayflower (and even call themsilfs "Enlgish" until they started calling > themsilfs "Yankees" -- I would imagine as in New England Yankees...) > > I found the Shaw closest to me goin' back and bein' from elsewhere as ACTCHERLY > originatin' in County Down, Ireland -- sometime after ca. 1850 ['zact date not > yet acertained] -- So, Ooops. Guess didn't make enough good speed tryin' to > make the last call for the Goodspeed....) > > He (and many like 'em) always considered 'imself "Scottish" -- actually, he > said "Scots" or even "Scotch" as he believed he wuz descended from [what I > would call] Cromwell's Northern-Britain hordes -- sent over to "rule" ol' > Irelan' by Anglicization linguistic and religious... > > They still do be folk who'd've been callin' 'im "Scots-Irish" and even others > who'd call 'im "Anglo-Irish"... [I suspect it 'pends on whether or not he got > a title AND wore shoes or not... or how long ago it had been since his kin had > fallen from the Gaelic...] > > OK. But we must remember that the Scots are an Irish tribe (most of which) > that moved across the waters to NE England, the Isles and SW corner of Scotland > at least several times in the past few millenia... > > Helpin' the whole shebang are a few curious facts: A good number of these > "Scots" on certain isles and in the SW of Scotland continue to speak good > "Scots Gaelic" but call it "Gaidhlig" [officially in their mellifluous tongue] > but -- "Erse." casually.... > > Gee... I wonder what THAT means? AND we mustn't forget that the language made > more famous and familiar to world by the poet Bobbie Burns is (depending on > your sources) a variant or dialect of English. Naturally, this English > "language" is called "Scots." > > After all of that -- which I even think I sorta understand -- you might better > sympathize as I confess that I go to bed every night full of fear that I shall > find out tomorrow that "Shaw" is actually a Chinese name (I DO have an Uncle > Richard) or the mutated, shortened form of some Slavic moniker like > "Shawinenski " or "Shawellovich" and has NOTHING to do with Gaels and the Celts > of Ireland, Scotland, South Boston and the Maritimes... :^) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Viola Seward" <olla@i29.net> > To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2001 12:12 > Subject: [SHAW] Shaw Families From Different Countries!!! > > > > Hello Shaw family listers. You know when we have family that comes from > > say Ireland. Our first thought is they are Irish. But thats wrong!! You > > see my gggrandfather and family came to America from Ireland. But left > > England to go to Ireland. Glad i knew my Shaws were English or i may > > have searched Ireland. Then had some one found my actual family i would > > have denied them because mine came from Ireland. Making them Irish. So a > > lot of twists and turns but families moved back then just like they do > > today. > > Good luck. > > Viola. > > > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > > http://www.pivot.net/%7eeureka/index.html > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~onlanark/ > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > The country of the week this week is AFRICA. > >