Thanks, (is it Jan or Anne?). I can't find a thing on any John Shaw in New York, but this man could still be the father of a first family (and my Warren Shaw). I think I'll try looking for the ancestries of John, Jr.'s and George's wives, and also the children of Nathaniel Churchill. Maybe somewhere in one of those lines another clue will come up regarding John, Sr. It's too bad the early census' didn't list names of wives and children. As to the other information you're looking for, in the past month I've seen a lot of Shaws listed as having come from Ireland to Maryland and further south. Have you tried looking at all the ship's passenger lists? I've scoured New York State, county by county, and I've given up finding John, Sr. there, although I've seen bits of evidence that he was. Keep us posted on what you find. I'll do the same. Carole Anne wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Gunderson" <JDGunderson@msn.com> > To: "Shaw Mail List" <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:06 PM > Subject: {not a subscriber} Irish Shaw Families > > > >From the 1850 Washington County, WI census: John Shaw, a farmer, age 68 > and born in Ireland. His wife was listed only as C., age 43. They had 3 > children all born in NY: Catherine age 13, John age 10 and George age 3. The > Dodge County, WI 1860 census has John, now age 68 and still a farmer. His > wife was named as Crissiene, age 52 and only 2 children were listed, John J. > age 20 and George W. age 17. Catherine must have been out of the home by > this time perhaps married and I have not found her back. > > > > John J. born 23 Apr 1840 and Jerusha Alice Wheeler born 31 Jan 1847 in > Seneca Falls, NY were married 30 Jul 1863. They had 4 children by the time > they left Rubican in Dodge County and moved to Rock Elm Township, Pierce > County, WI. The children were Eva Isola (Mrs. Charles Ducklow), Mary (Mrs. > Sam Moats), Ida Elmira (Mrs. James Meeham) and Alice Adeal (Mrs. William H. > Smith). The family moved to Rock Elm Township in 1873 and lived there until > 1899. Two more children, Emma Irene (Mrs. Arthur H. Kelly) and Bertha (Mrs. > John S. Henry) were born in Rock Elm. Jerusha's family came from Cranfield, > Bedforshire, England to New England in 1638 and settled first in Concord, MA > and later in Fairfield, CT. > > > > Old newspaper articles from 1903 and 1904 tell about John J. being lost > while returning to his claim on the Bear River about 30 miles west of > International Falls, MN. His remains were found the next spring and were > buried on his claim. It would be interesting to know why and old man would > take up a claim so far from Pierce County. > > > > John J.'s younger brother George W. Shaw and his wife Laura Thompson came > to Rock Elm Township in 1872 from Dodge County, WI. Their son John was born > before they came to Pierce County. George, Alma, Julia and Fredrick were all > born after the move north. > > > > Crisiania, the mother of Catherine, John J. and George W. moved to Pierce > County to be near her children sometime prior to 1879. Her husband was older > and I feel his death may be the reason for her to move. Pierce county death > records show this different name for her and her birth was 1807 in Vermont, > the daughter Nathaniel Churchill. She died in Rock Elm April 30, 1879 and is > buried in Popular Hill Cemetery. > > > > Looking for information on John Sr.'s. Irish birth, information on > daughter Catherine and other connections to the family. > > > > Jan Gunderson > > > > River Falls, WI > > > > JDGunderson@msn.com > > > > > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog