This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nance7 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/3097.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This post is 4 yrs old. Is it still good? Have you learned any more? Wish to confirm that Ann is indeed one of Hugh's girls. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carrol101 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/3460.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi i am also looking for info about shaws ...actually the daughter alice ..she and my father lived together and had three daughters together we can not find a marrage license..which would have to be around 1935......carrol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nance7 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6706.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: These must be his mother's family? But there is no George and Ethel in my database, sorry. I do have a George Washington Shaw, b 6 Jan 1856 in Coosa Co, AL, wife unk, parents are David C and Marthabea logan Shaw. These parents moved to LA, right after the war I think. His cousin, also George Washington Shaw b 25 Dec 1865 married Sarah Mary Elizabeth Evans. he was b abd d in Harpersville, Shelby Co, AL. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: melinacarpenter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6706/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Needing information on a George and Ethel Shaw, I don't really know anything besides their names being found in my dad's bible..see my dad passed away this year, and I really don't have much else to go on..He had in the bible listed as his grandparents, George and Ethel Shaw..which is quite weird , because my dad's last name was Thompson, or well on his birth certificate it reads Fisher...but his mother was a conley and his father either a thompson or fisher....so could anyone at least tell me if there are any fisher/shaw ties or thompson/shaw ties....any information is greatly appreciated....Thanks Melina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: melinacarpenter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/3976.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would love to see the photos, you see my dads bible mentioned the shaw name and I do remember my grandmother showing me some old photos , but since her death in 98 and my father passing away this year, I don't know what even happen to all those photos...so I would love to see them, if you could post them on here or email me the images, I would greatly appreciate it.my email is: melinacarpenter@hotmail.com...Thanks ... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Just a note about William Shaw. Apparently there were numerous William Shaw's. My William was born in 1759, served in the Revolutionary War, lived most if not all of his life in Marion County, SC, had numerous children there and died in 1863 at the age of 103. He was married to Frances Leggett and their first child was a son, John. Also, there was a heriditary kidney disorder passed down to some of the Shaw decendants, I believe from John Shaw's wife whose name was Ann Exum. (Geneology can be confusing can't it!) -------------- Original message -------------- From: mtamboutdoors@att.net > Hi, > There are a couple of errors and I hope that you will correct them...thanks. > William B. Shaw born March 24, 1801 in South Carolina is my gr-gr-gr grandfather > and HE IS the one who married Jinnat "Jane", also called "Jennie" McCorkle born > Feb. 18. 1802 in South Carolina and daughter of Stephen McCorkle and Mary > Patterson. William is the son of William Shaw who fought in the Rev. War and was > of Irish descent. I know this from Shaw family Bible records. I know that my > gr-gr-gr grandparents lived 20 miles outside of Charleston, SC and had several > children there before they migrated to Parke County, Indiana around 1830 or so. > Thanks so much, > Michelle (Shaw) Tambellini > > -------------- Original message from "Charles and Maria Shaw" > : -------------- > > > > Numerous Shaw Cousins, > > > > I did not expect quite the response my previous e-mail/ posting today > > created wrt Y-DNA Testing. It was quite gratifying to see several postings > from > > other Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi Shaws including some new > participants. > > Rather than attempting to answer a number of you individually since I depart > on > > travel early in the morning, I've attached the cut-down version of our MS Shaw > > Family line as we know it below - there are at least 3 distinct groups of > Shaws > > in Mississippi. We hope the Y-DNA results will help resolve several different > > but possibly related Shaw lines in early TN and Colonial VA. Apparently, we've > > already discovered a Miller who married into the Wyley family living next to > > several Shaws prior to 1800 is probably a Shaw by all indications, another > > reason for the 67 marker DNA Test since the 25 marker test is not conclusive. > > Hope this helps answer a few questions for some of you and any info welcome. > > Perhaps the DNA testing will pay off. Thanks. > > > > > > Chuck Shaw > > > > COL. Charles Houston Shaw, III, CPL (US Army, Retired) > > 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop > > Lake Manassas > > Gainesville, VA 20155 > > Home: 703-753-0549 > > theshawclan@comcast.net > > > > Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL > > Vice President > > METRON, Incorporated > > 11911 Freedom Drive > > Tower One, Suite 800 > > Reston, VA 20910 > > Work: 703-787-8700, x474 > > Mobile: 703-835-4553 > > shaw@metsci.com > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > 1. William or John Shaw, PVTs in the Virginia Militia during the French and > > Indian War under Captain Talbot and others, later PVTs in the Virginia and > North > > Carolina Volunteer Militias: > > Majority of evidence points to either William or John Shaw born about 1733/ 35 > > to John Shaw in Augusta County, VA (Probably one of several John and William > > Shaws who migrated from Ulster via Pennsylvania with the Irvives/ House of > Drum, > > Wyleys, Crawfords, Millers, etc. or possibly John Shaw and Elizabeth Jenkins > of > > Charles County, MD - still not verified). These Shaws and extended family > ended > > up in Augusta County, the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, which became > Botetourt, > > Bedford, Lunenberg, etc. counties migrating to Halifax County, Virginia as > well > > as Orange/ Caswell and Wake/ Durham Counties, North Carolina by 1760. Our oral > > history also indicates they were Borderer Scots allied to the Irvines of > > Bonshaw, Johnstones, Wyleys, and Crawfords originally from Dumfriesshire. > > However, they were also seafarers who left those lands in the 16th Century > with > > the Irvines/ Sons of Drum to go to Antrim as well as many of the Western Isles > > often running from the English, etc. and hi! > > ding for some time on the remote Hebrides and Isle of Jura. They eventually > > migrated to PA and through VA or MD from County Antrim shortly after the turn > of > > the 18th Century. They were then and our family remains devout Presbyterians. > > They fought on both sides of the Regulator Uprising in NC, 1768-1771. Captain > > Robert B. Schaw was a militia commander supporting the crown at the Battle of > > Alamance while several other Shaws, Wyleys, Spivas, Merrills, etc. were all > > Regulators. I am a direct descendant of Sgt James Wyley who died of wounds > > received in this conflict/ pneumonia and Captain Benjamin Merrill who was > hung, > > drawn, and quartered by Royal Governor Tryon in 1771. > > > > Children: > > I. Robert B. Shaw > > II. Dorcas Shaw > > III. William Shaw born before 1759 in VA and died TBD. William Shaw > > fought with the NC Militia during the Revolutionary War and married Jennat > > "Jennie" McCorkle in NC (later TN) following the war. They had multiple > > children including a son, William Baptist Shaw, who was born on 24 March 1801 > in > > the Chester District of South Carolina. Jennie was the daughter of Stephen > > McCorkle and Mary Patterson of North and South Carolina. > > IV. James Shaw, M, born about 1760/61 in then Orange County, now Caswell > > County, NC and died about 1807 in Chester County, SC. Likely married to Mary > A. > > Pendergrast who was born about 1762 in NC also and died 26 July 1816 in > Chester > > County, SC. James and Mary were married on 9 January 1786 in Caswell County, > NC > > prior to moving to TN and then SC. > > V. John Shaw, M, born about 1763 in Orange County, now Caswell County, > > NC. John Henry Shaw migrated to TN, SC, GA, and AL and supposedly died about > > 1827 in either Morgan County, GA or Shelby County, AL. Married on 11 August > > 1788 to Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin who was born about 1765 in Halifax > > County, VA and died 1853 in Choctaw County, MS. > > VI. Elizabeth Shaw born about 1765 in then Orange County, now Caswell > > County, NC. > > > > Guilford County, North Carolina Court Records > > Euta page 345 in Nov. 1793 > > William Shaw's Will dated September 1793, probate November 1793 > > In the Name of God Amen - > > I, William Shaw; being weak in body but sound in memory thanks be to God for > it > > & Calling to Mind that its appointed for Man Once to die, And after that the > > resurrection. I do Make this my Last will and testment, > > To Viz, First that I allow my body to be buried in a desent manner at the > > discretion of My Execitors Nothing Doubting but I Shall Receiv the same at the > > Resurrection at the Last day ---- > > First I allow all my just & Lawful Debts to be paid. I, the aforesaid William > > Shaw do leave My two beloved Brothers (that is Joseph Ross & Benjamin) all my > > clothes to be Equally divided between them, also my Beloved Mother & my two > > young sisters Jean Ross & Susana they are to be three pounds to be equally > > divided among them; the rest of My Estate is to be Equally divided Between my > > two older Sisters (That is Sarah Shaw & Grizzald and Grizzald youngest boy > named > > Thomas Ross those three is to have equal shares --- > > I always appoint Thomas Wyley and Robert Shaw to Execute this My Last will and > > testment -- This Ninth Day of September 1793 > > > > s/ Wm. Shaw > > Witness in the presents of: William Matthews; Jurat > > > > NOTE: The Shaw and Wyley families of North Carolina and their descendant's > have > > been closely related to the Irvine/ Irwin, Crawford, Johnston, Miller, Spiva, > > Gaston, Youngblood, Adams, McClure, etc. families for generations from > Virginia > > to NC/ TN, SC/ GA, AL, & MS. > > > > State of North Carolina, Guilford County - November Court 1793 > > William Matthews approved the within will on Motion admitted to record. > > Test: John Hamilton > > The last will & Testament of William Shaw Des. was proven in open Court and on > > Motion let it be recorded then came in Thomas Wiley & Robert Shaw, Esqrs. in > > said will appointed and Qualified as such agreeable to law - the will was > proven > > by the oath of William Matthews a subscribing witness thereto. > > > > NOTE: This will was also originally executed and filed in Edgefield county, SC > > where William Shaw died and is buried. > > > > Guilford County, North Carolina, C.046.3001 Court Minutes Vol. III, p. 10, > 1797 > > Alexander Gray Esqr. & Sampson Powel are appointed a Committee to Settle the > > Estate of William Shaw Dec'd. with the Exrs. of the same Estate & make report > > the next Court . > > > > 2. John Henry Shaw, PVT in the North Carolina Militia during the Revolutionary > > War, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ Creek Indian Wars, > > Captain in the Georgia and Alabama Volunteer Militia: > > John Henry Shaw was born in 1763 to William Shaw (some think possibly John or > > Joseph Shaw ) in then Orange and now Caswell County, NC near the Halifax > County, > > VA line. John Henry Shaw was also known as "Papa John Henry" and supposedly > > died in Shelby County, AL about 1827. His gravesite cannot be located. John > > Shaw fought multiple tours in the NC militia as a Mounted Rifleman during the > > Revolutionary War from Camden/ the Southern Campaign through Yorktown, serving > > under Colonel William Washington of Virginia and General Francis Marion. John > > Henry Shaw married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin on 11 August 1788 in > > Washington County, TN which was previously part NC. Mama Mary Margaret was > born > > about 1765 in Halifax County, VA and died about 1853 in Winston County, MS. > She > > is believed to be the daughter of either James, Joseph, or William Irvine - > > brothers from Southside Virginia. Mama Mary Margaret is buried in the Old > > Shaw-Crawford Cemetery, often called Blackwood Ceme! > > tery, in the Choctaw National Forest (CNF), Choctaw County, MS near the Shaw > > family as well as long time friends/ in-laws Peter and Elizabeth Crawford. > > John Henry Shaw and several of his sons/ nephews are credited with exploring > the > > Tennessee Valley Divide and Mississippi Territory (now Alabama) prior to the > War > > of 1812 and discovering/ blazing the Genery's Gap of North-Central Alabama > prior > > to the War of 1812. > > > > Children: > > I. Joseph J. Shaw, M, born during September 1789 in > > Washington County NC/ TN and died before1860 in Oktibbeha County, MS. Daddy > Joe > > Shaw may be the eldest son or a nephew. > > II. William W. Shaw, M, born 6 February 1792 in Chester > > County, SC and died 17 November 1850 in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka Colonel > > William Washington Shaw) > > > > III. James W. Shaw b. 21 May 1794 in SC (aka Big Jim or > > Captain James Washington Shaw) > > > > IV. Pleasant Shaw b. 1796/7 in SC > > > > V. John B. H. Shaw b. 5 October 1798 in SC > > > > VI. William Wiley Shaw b. 20 January 1800 in SC > > > > VII. Almeron Marmaduke Shaw b. 1801/2 in SC > > > > VIII. Hamitt or Hammett Shaw b. 1803/4 in SC and died about > > 1868 in Winston County, MS. Donated the land for and buried at Bethel > Methodist > > Church in Winston County, MS. > > > > IX. Elizabeth Shaw b. 1805/6 in SC > > > > X. Alexander or Sanders/ Sandy Shaw b. 1807/08 in SC > > > > XI. Edney Shaw (?) probably daughter-in-law > > > > XII. Archibald Shaw b. 1810/11 in SC (?) May be a son or > > nephew. > > > > XIII. William S. Shaw b. 1812 in SC (?) and died about 1878 > > in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka William Spivey Shaw) May be a son or nephew who > > served in the Regular Army during the Seminole and Mexican Wars. > > > > > > Several other sons are often credited to Papa John and Mama Mary since they > > helped raise their orphaned nephews/ nieces, children of James Shaw, in SC and > > AL who migrated with them. > > > > 3. James Washington Shaw, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ > > Creek Indian Wars, Captain in the Alabama Volunteer Militia, County Supervisor > > and Commissioner in Alabama and Mississippi: > > James Washington "Big Jim" Shaw was born 21 May 1794 to John Henry Shaw and > Mary > > Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin Shaw in the Chester District of South Carolina. > > He died near Shaw Springs, MS on 9 August 1875 and is buried next to wife Jane > > at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS on MS > Hwy > > 12 East. James served as a Private in the Militia Scout/ Rangers against the > > British Kempers and Creek Indians during latter stages of the War of 1812. He > > was also a Sergeant of Scouts under his father and Major Sam Dale against the > > Creeks during the first two Indian Wars in Alabama. Jim along with his father, > > brothers, and pioneers such as Sam and Jim Dale, Thomas and Peter Malone, as > > well as John Amory/ Emory traded with numerous Indian tribes and scouted most > of > > the Alabama Territory. Jim and his brothers along with other comrades in arms > > subsequently occupied lands in Shelby and Jefferson Counties of Alabama even > > before the Treaty of Fort Jackson. Many! > > returned to South Carolina and Georgia to marry in 1818 and 1819 and > > immediately brought their brides and families to the rich Cahaba Valley of > > Alabama, near present day Birmingham. The first confirmed record of Jim Shaw > in > > Shelby County, Alabama is on the January Term, County Court, in 1819. Jim Shaw > > subsequently became a Supervisor in Shelby County from 1819-1823 and later a > > Commissioner for Shelby County from 1823-1825. He was relieved of his > > Commissioner duties in 1825 due to his failure to act/ absence while serving > > with the Alabama Militia scouting the Great Tennessee Road, Great Military > Road/ > > Noxubee Trail, and Choctaw land. James and William Shaw had some role > > supporting Thomas Malone as Assistant Indian Agent for the U.S. Government > > during negotiation of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek in the Choctaw Cede, > > now Noxubee County, MS, in 1830. Joseph J. "Daddy Joe" Shaw occupied land in > > Oktibbeha County, MS; COL. William Washington Shaw purchased and occupied ! > > choice land obtained from the Malone Family in Winston County, MS; CPT > > . James Washington Shaw purchased tracts of land in Choctaw and Oktibbeha > > Counties of MS; and Samuel Houston Shaw purchased large tracts of land in > > Noxubee County, MS. These farms are actually in close proximity to one another > > near the intersection of the county lines along Shaw Road. Jim Shaw moved his > > family from Alabama to the Choctaw/ Oktibbeha County, MS line in either 1833 > or > > early 1834. Jim Shaw married Jane "Jenny" Bagwell, born 19 February 1799 to > > Frederick Bagwell, Sr and Mary "Polly" Hill in the Chester District of South > > Carolina. She died near Shaw Springs, MS on 27 September 1875 and is buried > > next to James at the Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and > > Sturgis, MS on MS Hwy 12 East. > > > > Children: > > I. Jane Shaw, F, born before 1824 in Shelby County, AL > > > > II. Elizabeth Elvira Shaw, F, born in 1824 in Shelby > > County, AL > > > > III. Mary Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, AL > > > > IV. Nancy Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, AL > > > > V. James Emory "Blind Jim" Shaw, M, born 1829 in Shelby > > County, AL and turned blind as a child. He died in Oktibbeha County, MS about > > 1905. Buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery. > > > > VI. William Jasper Newton "Jack" Shaw, M, born 1830 in > > Shelby County, AL and buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist Church > > Cemetery. > > > > VII. Angeline Shaw, F, born 1832 in Shelby County, AL > > > > VIII. John David Carson Shaw, M, born 1833 in Shelby County, > > AL > > > > IX. John Benjamin Franklin "Johnny Frank" Shaw, M, born > > 1835 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown > > > > X. John Baptist Martin Shaw, M, born 1837 in Choctaw > > County, MS and died ??, buried in Shaw-Crawford, now Blackwood, Cemetery > > > > XI. R. Austin Washington Shaw, M, born 1838/ 39 in Choctaw > > County, MS and died ??. > > > > XII. Samuel Houghston Shaw, born 1841 in Choctaw County, MS > > and died 1900 at Fentress in Choctaw County, MS > > > > > > 4. Samuel Houghston Shaw, 4th SGT Confederate States of America (CSA) Army and > > County Supervisor: > > Samuel Houghston "Hugh" Shaw was born in 1841 to James W. "Big Jim" Shaw and > > Jane "Jenny" Bagwell Shaw in Choctaw County, MS. He was named after other > > family members (possibly an Uncle) as well as both the Reverand Sam Houston, > > uncle of Governor/ General Sam Houston of NC and TN, and the General who both > > his father and grandfather had served under in the militia. Hugh served first > > as a Private and later Sergeant in Company K, "The Choctaw Greys", of the 15th > > Mississippi Infantry Regiment from 19 September 1861 until July 1863 when part > > of the unit surrendered and/ or was captured during the retreat from > Vicksburg. > > Hugh Shaw was fortunate enough to evade capture, escape, or be repatriated in > a > > prisoner swap in 1863 and returned to duty as a 4th Sergeant in Company K of > the > > Composite 15th Mississippi Infantry Regiment from the Fall of 1863 until 28 > > April 1865 when the unit surrendered as part of General Joe Johnston's Army at > > Greensboro, North Carolina. Hugh had an extensi! > > ve service record and was wounded multiple times in some of the worst fighting > > at Shiloh, Vicksburg, Atlanta, Chattanooga, and Franklin. Later, Hugh served > as > > a Supervisor for the Fentress District of Choctaw County, MS from 1876-1884. > > Hugh Shaw died in 1899 and is buried at the Bethlehem Baptist Church between > > Ackerman and Sturgis, MS. > > > > Children: > > I. Eliza Jane Shaw, F, born 1866/ 67 in Choctaw County, > > MS. She married a Bradford (?), moved to Texas before 1905, and died unknown > > (named after both grandmothers). > > > > II. Thomas Washington Shaw, M, born 1868 in Choctaw > > County, MS, see below (named after both grandfathers, see below). > > > > III. James Ervin Shaw, M, born 1870/ 71 in Choctaw > > County, MS, died before 1900 (named after paternal greatgrandfathers). His > > widow and children also moved to Texas before 1905. > > > > IV. William Francis (?/ some family say Franklin instead) > > Shaw, M, born 1872 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown (named after mix?). > > > > V. Samuel Thomas Shaw, M, born 1874 in Choctaw County, > > MS and died unknown. (named after maternal greatgrandfathers). > > > > VI. Charmie Bertha Shaw, F, born 1876 in Choctaw County, > > MS and died unknown (named after Unknown). > > > > > > 5. Thomas Washington Shaw: > > Thomas Washington Shaw was born on 14 November 1868 at Fentress, East of > > Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. Tom was the eldest son of Samuel Houghston > > "Hugh" Shaw and Olivia Margaret "Dollie or Olley" Fulcher Shaw. He was named > > after his grandfathers: Thomas Dillon Fulcher and James Washington Shaw. Tom > > married Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone on 3 July 1891 in Fentress, MS. He married > > Addie Irene Childress, 23 years his junior, on 24 December 1914 following > Mary's > > death in 1913. Tom died on 27 November 1920 of a heart attack on the Main > > Street of Ackerman in Choctaw County, MS. Tom is buried at Enon Cumberland > > Presbyterian Church, just Northeast of Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. > > > > Children: > > I. Ella Jane Shaw, F, born on 8 Mar 1892 in Choctaw > > County, MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? > > II. Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr , M, born 22 > > October 1894 in Choctaw County, MS and died 19 June 1969 in Winston County, MS > > (see below) > > > > III. Bertha M. Shaw, F, born Jan 1897 in Choctaw County, > > MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? > > > > IV. William Jasper "Jack" Newton Shaw, M, born Oct 1899 in > > Choctaw County, MS and died 1975 in Atlanta, GA. Married ? > > > > V. Unk Infant, F., born in 1900/ 01, died? > > > > VI. James Thomas "Jim-Tom" Shaw, M, born 1903 in Choctaw > > County, MS and died 1984 in Shreveport, LA. Married a Haimes. > > > > VII. Mary Emma Shaw, F, born 1905 in Choctaw County, MS and > > died 1997 in Choctaw County, MS. Married Elmer Wylie. > > > > VIII. John Henry F. Shaw, M, born 1907 in Choctaw County, MS > > and died 1932 in Winston County, MS, Married ? > > > > IX. Unk infant, M, born in 1909, died? > > > > X. Ruth Geniveve "Geneva" Shaw, F, born 1911 in Choctaw > > County, MS and died 1998 in Harlen County, KY. Married James Weeks. > > > > XI. Unk Infant, ?, died at birth on 10 August 1913. > > > > XII. Lucy Ellen Shaw, F, born on 10 Feb 1915 in Ackerman, Choctaw > > County, MS > > > > XIII. Olivia "Ollie" Frances Shaw, F, born on 15 Feb 1916 in > > Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS > > > > XIV. EIla Pearl Shaw, F, born on 4 Jan 1919 in Ackerman, Choctaw > > County, MS > > > > XV. Tommie Lee Shaw, F, born on 30 Sep 1920 in Ackerman, > > Choctaw County, MS > > > > > > 6. Charles Huston Shaw, Sr, Fireman First Class (F1C)/ Chief Water Tender > > (CWT), US Navy: > > Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr. was born 22 October 1894 in Ackerman, MS > > which is the county seat for Choctaw County, MS. Charlie was the eldest son of > > Thomas Washington "Tom" Shaw and Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone who lived near > > Fentress in Choctaw County, MS. He is named after his grandfathers, Charles > > Spiva Malone and Samuel Houghston Shaw. Charlie served in the US Navy during > > WWI on four different ships including the battleship USS Oklahoma and Heavy > > Battle Cruiser Kearsarge for training and escort duty as well as Fireman First > > Class and Chief Water Tender on two Cargo/ Transport Ships, the USS > Susquehanna > > and USS Alaskan. He was nominated for the Distinguished Service Cross > > (DSC-Navy) and received two awards of the Distinguished Service Medal (DSM) > for > > multiple actions on two different ships. Charlie was injured, badly burned, > and > > partially disabled while saving the USS Susquehanna in January 1918. Charlie > > returned to France in 1919 in order to receive a Croix de! > > Guerre and his admission as a Knight or Chevalier Legionne d'Honneur (Legion > > of Honor) from the government of France based on his service in WWI as well. > > The US Navy named Liberty Ship USNS 3117, "The Charles H. Shaw", after he and > > another named merchantman during WWII which was launched at the end of the war > > in 1945. Charlie married Lucy Merrow "Moira or Myra" Wylie, daughter of > Addison > > Youngblood Wylie and Cordelia Chancellor on 25 July 1925. Charlie died on 26 > > June 1969 at Louisville in Winston County, MS. He is buried at New Hope > > Methodist Church on Hwy 14 East in Winston County, MS. > > > > Children: > > I. PFC (Samuel) Thomas Addison Shaw, M, born 30 Mar 1926 > > in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 5 Mar 1992 in Jackson, Hinds > > County, MS. Thomas is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 > > East, Winston County, MS. > > > > II. SGT Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, M, born 01 May 1927 in > > Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 22 Aug 1992 in Meridian, Lauderdale > > County, MS. Junior is buried in the new Philadelphia, MS Municipal Cemetery > > (See Below). > > > > III. Charmie Iree Shaw, F, born 23 Jan 1929 in Shaw > > Springs, Winston County, MS, and died on 2 July 1995 in Louisville, Winston > > County, MS. CIS is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 > East, > > Winston County, MS next to Diane and Thomas. > > > > IV. Paul Jean/ Gene Shaw, M, born 13 Oct 1942 in Louisville, > > Winston County, MS and died 9 May 1999 in Pass Christian, MS. Cremated. > > > > V. Patricia Dianne Shaw, F, born 21 Apr 1947 in Louisville, Winston > > County, MS and died 28 July 1973 in Memphis, Shelby County, TN. Dianne is > > buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, > MS > > next to CIS and Thomas. > > > > Numerous other sons/ daughters, 13 children total. > > > > > > 7. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, SGT, US Army: > > Charles Houston "Junior" Shaw was born 01 May 1927 at Shaw Springs, MS. He was > > the second son of Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw and Lucy Merrow "Moira" Wylie > of > > Shaw Springs and Gum Branch in Winston County, MS. He is named after his > > father/ greatgrandfathers. Charles "Junior" is descended from John Henry Shaw, > > Frederick Bagwell, Drury Malone, and James Wyley with relations to these same > > Shaws, Bagwells, Malones, and Wyleys back to VA and NC. Charles or "Junior" > > served 2 tours, over 7 years, in the US Army including active duty and > reserves > > before, during, and after the Korean War. Junior served in the US Army as an > > Artilleryman during the Korean War in the Military District of Washington. He > > married Delilah Ann "Nell" Hunt, daughter of Floyd Wesley Hunt and Mamie Jane > > Dempsey, on 22 January 1955. They moved to Philadelphia in Neshoba County, MS > in > > 1957. Charles also served 28 years as a Mississippi State Highway Patrolman > > there. They had three children who are still ! > > living today. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. died on 20 August 1992 in Meridian, > > Lauderdale County, MS. He is buried at the Philadelphia Municipal Cemetery in > > Neshoba County, MS where he made his home. > > > > Children: > > Charles Houston Shaw, III and two others. > > > > 8. Charles Houston Shaw, III, Colonel, US Army (Retired): > > Charles Houston Shaw, III, was born 07 October 1957 in Louisville, Winston > > County, MS. He is the eldest son of Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. and Delilah Ann > > Hunt of Shaw Springs and Edgefield in Winston County, MS respectively. He is > > named after his father/ grandfather/ greatgrandfathers, married Maria Elena > > Almanza, 5 children and 9 grandchildren. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nance" > > To: "Charles and Maria Shaw" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > > > > > > >I have many Shaw's in Harpersville, Shelby Co, AL. Mostly children of Hugh L > > > Shaw and Annie Catherine Lybrand. Are these kin to yours? According to my > > > records, mostly from Elaine Hendricks - God be good to her, Hugh H is the > > > son of Hugh and Elizabeth Finley, or maybe Hugh Jr and Elizabeth Finley? > > > > > > nance (my first post to this site) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Charles and Maria Shaw" > > > To: > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:35 PM > > > Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > > > > > > > > >> Denise, > > >> > > >> I just submitted a Y-DNA 67 sample to Family Tree last week and expect > > >> the results to be posted by the end on the month. We have several of our > > >> related lines back 13 generations and our Shaw line definitely goes back > > >> to the 1750-60s in NC. I am originally from Mississippi with numerous > > >> relatives in MS, AL, AR, and TX. This Shaw family line goes back through > > >> AL, some GA and others SC, TN/ NC, and VA or MD. Our oral history also > > >> indicates migrating through VA or MD from Ulster (County Antrim) after > > >> arrival in PA. > > >> > > >> Our Shaw family were allied to and inter-married with the Wyley/ Wylly, > > >> Irwin/ Irvine, Miller, Bagwell, Jones, Spiva/ Spivey, Malone and other > > >> Orange families back to Old Augusta - now Botetourt and Bedford Counties > > >> of VA. I have at least a dozen family lines that were in Old Augusta > > >> County, VA by 1735 and later Old Orange County, NC which later split into > > >> Caswell/ Persons and Wake/ Durham Counties of NC. They all ended up in > > >> Old Washington County, NC (later became TN) following the Revolution. > > >> John Henry Shaw was born on the VA and NC line (Caswell County) in 1763. > > >> Papa John married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine in Washington County, TN on > > >> 11 August 1788 in the area later identified as Cherokee lands in 1790. > > >> Consequently, Papa John and Mama Mary moved several times ending up in > > >> Shelby County, AL by 1818 where he died. Mama Mary came to MS with her > > >> family in 1834 and died in 1853. I am descended from their son, Captain > > >> James Washington Shaw, who was an original set! > > >> tler in the Choctaw Cede of MS during 1833. > > >> > > >> Concerning DNA Testing, I've been looking at this for some time and > > >> studying the mutation rates for many markers - all vary at different > > >> rates. In order to get back to the Colonial Era of interest with any > > >> degree of accurracy, the 25 marker test is probably not sufficient and > > >> even the 37 marker test is only marginal for a HaploGroup. I ordered the > > >> new Y-DNA 67 marker test for this reason. I'll let you know when the > > >> sample is posted. Thanks for all your efforts. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Chuck Shaw > > >> > > >> Charles and Maria Shaw > > >> 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop > > >> Lake Manassas > > >> Gainesville, VA 20155 > > >> E-mail: theshawclan@comcast.net > > >> Home: 703-753-0549 > > >> Cell: 703-408-7319 > > >> > > >> Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL > > >> Vice President > > >> METRON, Incorporated > > >> 11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 800 > > >> Reston, VA 20190 > > >> E-mail: shaw@metsci.com > > >> Office: 703-787-8700, x474 > > >> Mobile: 703-835-4553 > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Denise Shaw" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:23 PM > > >> Subject: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > > >> > > >> > > >>> The Shaw line originating from the Prince George's County and Charles > > >>> County, Maryland area is looking for paternal male Shaw descendants to > > >>> participate in the DNA Shaw Surname project. We are trying to establish > > >>> proof of lineage for the William and Priscilla Shaw line from southern > > >>> Maryland. Recently, two Shaw descendants submitted DNA for testing, one > > >>> from > > >>> Charles County, MD and one from CA. DNA testing confirmed that they are > > >>> "cousins," descending from William and Priscilla, through their sons, > > >>> Luke > > >>> Lewis Shaw and William S. Shaw. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> It is believed that William Shaw was born abt 1767 in Maryland and he > > >>> died > > >>> about 1821-1822 in Charles County, MD. He married Priscilla (MNU) abt > > >>> 1785 > > >>> in Maryland. Priscilla was born abt 1760 in Maryland and died abt 1833 in > > >>> Nicholas County, KY. After William's death, Priscilla Shaw moved from > > >>> Charles County, MD, to Nicholas County, KY, to join her son, Luke Lewis > > >>> Shaw > > >>> (1796-1878), who was already living in KY by 1815. Priscilla took the > > >>> four > > >>> youngest children with her to KY, namely John Anderson Shaw (abt > > >>> 1806-1881), > > >>> James Shaw (abt 1810-?), Ann Shaw (abt 1805-1874), and Matilda Shaw (abt > > >>> 1808-?). It appears the four oldest Shaw children, Sarah (1786-?), Joseph > > >>> (1786-1865) (twin to Sarah), Samuel (1791-?) and William S. Shaw > > >>> (1793-1862) > > >>> stayed behind in Maryland. Joseph Shaw eventually moved to the KY/IN > > >>> areas, > > >>> as he died in Ripley County, Indiana in 1865. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> If we can get more people to participate in the Shaw Surname DNA project, > > >>> we > > >>> are hoping to one day find a match even further back than William and > > >>> Priscilla Shaw, perhaps back to our original presumed ancestry from > > >>> England, > > >>> Ireland or Scotland. To accomplish this, we need as many male Shaw > > >>> descendants as possible who descend from the paternal Shaw side to > > >>> participate in the DNA matching project. For more information, please go > > >>> to > > >>> the Shaw DNA Project page at: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/s/shaw/index.html > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Once there, you can learn about how DNA testing works, etc. You can click > > >>> on > > >>> the "Recruitment" link to learn how to participate. The "Results" link > > >>> shows > > >>> the Shaw line participants and matches to date. There is also a > > >>> "patriarchs" > > >>> page for posting family trees. If you decide to participate, you will > > >>> order > > >>> your DNA test kit directly from the project. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> The cost per participant is dependent on the number of markers tested, > > >>> but > > >>> all tests include an estimate of the Haplogroup (an indication of deep > > >>> ancestry). It is recommended that you test the largest number of markers > > >>> that you can afford, however, there is a basic 12 marker test available. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> It is important for as many Shaw descendants to participate as possible. > > >>> However, if you believe you are descended from or connected to this > > >>> specific > > >>> southern Maryland Shaw line, and you absolutely cannot afford the cost of > > >>> testing, we have a few Shaw descendants who are willing to assist in > > >>> paying > > >>> some of the costs of the testing. If you would like to request financial > > >>> assistance or sponsorship for DNA testing, please make a request to me, > > >>> and > > >>> provide information on your southern Maryland Shaw family connection. > > >>> Requests for testing sponsorship will be reviewed and considered on a > > >>> case-by-case basis, and is dependent upon the number of requests we > > >>> receive, > > >>> as we have a limited amount of sponsorship monies available. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> If you wish to contribute to the Shaw grant/sponsorship program to help > > >>> promote Shaw DNA testing, please let me know. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Please consider participating, and please pass this information along to > > >>> other Shaw relatives who might be interested. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Thanks. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Denise Shaw > > >>> > > >>> dmcshaw@hughes.net > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >>> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SHAW-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

You might do it the hard way and start looking through the 1850 census records for Texans named Shaw that were born in Texas, just to narrow down your search. Is there an 1840 census for Texas? Have you looked for birth, death, marriage records in county courthouses? I have a Thomas Jefferson Shaw who was in Parker County, Texas, but he didn't get there until 1854. He had a son James, but that son was James T., and of course the parents wouldn't have been born in Texas. Thomas Jefferson Shaw had a brother Granville who was in Texas starting in 1836, but I don't know who his children were. Chances are he had a James, though, because their father's name was James and they all named a child after him. Again, the parents wouldn't have been born in Texas. Beverly Park Peavler P.S. My husband's mother had relations in Pauls Valley, OK. Their name was Arthur. On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:22 PM, jesse mc wrote: > My ggrandfather James A. "Jim" Shaw born 1850/51 in Texas IAW 1880 > census > for Cooke Co. TX. It also states that his father & mother were born > in TX. > He married Malissa Aplin & they had 3 children before they split > up. Family > history says James & family came to Oklahoma where he & Malissa > split up. > Sher remarried to george Humphries & they resided in Pauls Valley, > OK til > their deaths. George & Malissa had 2 daughters & they were raised > along with > my grandfather John W. & his bro. David. I've searched every known > source, > roots, genforum, anc. family history etc & come up empty. Don't > think DNA > would help as my mother was the Shaw no my father. Any help, clues > etc would > be greatly appreceated. > jesse mccullar, roho29@allegiance.tv > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Beverly Peavler bp@peavler.org

Darn I was hoping you had a Robert Shaw in Guilford C NC married to an Elizabeth Hamilton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles and Maria Shaw" <theshawclan@comcast.net> To: "Denise Shaw" <dmcshaw@hughes.net>; "Nance" <nance7@embarqmail.com>; "Shaw, Myrle" <MShawze@aol.com>; "'Bryce Stevens'" <bstevens@acs.ac>; "Dyess Tidwell Studio" <dyess@rose.net>; "Britt Shaw" <brittashaw@yahoo.com>; "Nelson" <fidridge4@cox.net>; "Ron Bradford" <ronbrad46@yahoo.com>; <timandcathypenn@comcast.net>; <bp@peavler.org> Cc: <shaw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: [SHAW] One of Three Mississippi Shaw Lines - Re: SeekingParticipants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > Numerous Shaw Cousins, > > I did not expect quite the response my previous e-mail/ posting today > created wrt Y-DNA Testing. It was quite gratifying to see several > postings from other Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi Shaws including > some new participants. Rather than attempting to answer a number of you > individually since I depart on travel early in the morning, I've attached > the cut-down version of our MS Shaw Family line as we know it below - > there are at least 3 distinct groups of Shaws in Mississippi. We hope the > Y-DNA results will help resolve several different but possibly related > Shaw lines in early TN and Colonial VA. Apparently, we've already > discovered a Miller who married into the Wyley family living next to > several Shaws prior to 1800 is probably a Shaw by all indications, another > reason for the 67 marker DNA Test since the 25 marker test is not > conclusive. Hope this helps answer a few questions for some of you and > any info welcome. Perhaps the DNA testing will pay off. Thanks. > > > Chuck Shaw > > COL. Charles Houston Shaw, III, CPL (US Army, Retired) > 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop > Lake Manassas > Gainesville, VA 20155 > Home: 703-753-0549 > theshawclan@comcast.net > > Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL > Vice President > METRON, Incorporated > 11911 Freedom Drive > Tower One, Suite 800 > Reston, VA 20910 > Work: 703-787-8700, x474 > Mobile: 703-835-4553 > shaw@metsci.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > 1. William or John Shaw, PVTs in the Virginia Militia during the French > and Indian War under Captain Talbot and others, later PVTs in the Virginia > and North Carolina Volunteer Militias: > Majority of evidence points to either William or John Shaw born about > 1733/ 35 to John Shaw in Augusta County, VA (Probably one of several John > and William Shaws who migrated from Ulster via Pennsylvania with the > Irvives/ House of Drum, Wyleys, Crawfords, Millers, etc. or possibly John > Shaw and Elizabeth Jenkins of Charles County, MD - still not verified). > These Shaws and extended family ended up in Augusta County, the Shenandoah > Valley of Virginia, which became Botetourt, Bedford, Lunenberg, etc. > counties migrating to Halifax County, Virginia as well as Orange/ Caswell > and Wake/ Durham Counties, North Carolina by 1760. Our oral history also > indicates they were Borderer Scots allied to the Irvines of Bonshaw, > Johnstones, Wyleys, and Crawfords originally from Dumfriesshire. However, > they were also seafarers who left those lands in the 16th Century with the > Irvines/ Sons of Drum to go to Antrim as well as many of the Western Isles > often running from the English, etc. and hi! > ding for some time on the remote Hebrides and Isle of Jura. They > eventually migrated to PA and through VA or MD from County Antrim shortly > after the turn of the 18th Century. They were then and our family remains > devout Presbyterians. They fought on both sides of the Regulator Uprising > in NC, 1768-1771. Captain Robert B. Schaw was a militia commander > supporting the crown at the Battle of Alamance while several other Shaws, > Wyleys, Spivas, Merrills, etc. were all Regulators. I am a direct > descendant of Sgt James Wyley who died of wounds received in this > conflict/ pneumonia and Captain Benjamin Merrill who was hung, drawn, and > quartered by Royal Governor Tryon in 1771. > > Children: > I. Robert B. Shaw > II. Dorcas Shaw > III. William Shaw born before 1759 in VA and died TBD. William > Shaw fought with the NC Militia during the Revolutionary War and married > Jennat "Jennie" McCorkle in NC (later TN) following the war. They had > multiple children including a son, William Baptist Shaw, who was born on > 24 March 1801 in the Chester District of South Carolina. Jennie was the > daughter of Stephen McCorkle and Mary Patterson of North and South > Carolina. > IV. James Shaw, M, born about 1760/61 in then Orange County, now > Caswell County, NC and died about 1807 in Chester County, SC. Likely > married to Mary A. Pendergrast who was born about 1762 in NC also and died > 26 July 1816 in Chester County, SC. James and Mary were married on 9 > January 1786 in Caswell County, NC prior to moving to TN and then SC. > V. John Shaw, M, born about 1763 in Orange County, now Caswell > County, NC. John Henry Shaw migrated to TN, SC, GA, and AL and supposedly > died about 1827 in either Morgan County, GA or Shelby County, AL. Married > on 11 August 1788 to Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin who was born about > 1765 in Halifax County, VA and died 1853 in Choctaw County, MS. > VI. Elizabeth Shaw born about 1765 in then Orange County, now > Caswell County, NC. > > Guilford County, North Carolina Court Records > Euta page 345 in Nov. 1793 > William Shaw's Will dated September 1793, probate November 1793 > In the Name of God Amen - > I, William Shaw; being weak in body but sound in memory thanks be to God > for it & Calling to Mind that its appointed for Man Once to die, And after > that the resurrection. I do Make this my Last will and testment, > To Viz, First that I allow my body to be buried in a desent manner at the > discretion of My Execitors Nothing Doubting but I Shall Receiv the same at > the Resurrection at the Last day ---- > First I allow all my just & Lawful Debts to be paid. I, the aforesaid > William Shaw do leave My two beloved Brothers (that is Joseph Ross & > Benjamin) all my clothes to be Equally divided between them, also my > Beloved Mother & my two young sisters Jean Ross & Susana they are to be > three pounds to be equally divided among them; the rest of My Estate is to > be Equally divided Between my two older Sisters (That is Sarah Shaw & > Grizzald and Grizzald youngest boy named Thomas Ross those three is to > have equal shares --- > I always appoint Thomas Wyley and Robert Shaw to Execute this My Last will > and testment -- This Ninth Day of September 1793 > > s/ Wm. Shaw > Witness in the presents of: William Matthews; Jurat > > NOTE: The Shaw and Wyley families of North Carolina and their descendant's > have been closely related to the Irvine/ Irwin, Crawford, Johnston, > Miller, Spiva, Gaston, Youngblood, Adams, McClure, etc. families for > generations from Virginia to NC/ TN, SC/ GA, AL, & MS. > > State of North Carolina, Guilford County - November Court 1793 > William Matthews approved the within will on Motion admitted to record. > Test: John Hamilton > The last will & Testament of William Shaw Des. was proven in open Court > and on Motion let it be recorded then came in Thomas Wiley & Robert Shaw, > Esqrs. in said will appointed and Qualified as such agreeable to law - the > will was proven by the oath of William Matthews a subscribing witness > thereto. > > NOTE: This will was also originally executed and filed in Edgefield > county, SC where William Shaw died and is buried. > > Guilford County, North Carolina, C.046.3001 Court Minutes Vol. III, p. 10, > 1797 > Alexander Gray Esqr. & Sampson Powel are appointed a Committee to Settle > the Estate of William Shaw Dec'd. with the Exrs. of the same Estate & make > report the next Court . > > 2. John Henry Shaw, PVT in the North Carolina Militia during the > Revolutionary War, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ > Creek Indian Wars, Captain in the Georgia and Alabama Volunteer Militia: > John Henry Shaw was born in 1763 to William Shaw (some think possibly John > or Joseph Shaw ) in then Orange and now Caswell County, NC near the > Halifax County, VA line. John Henry Shaw was also known as "Papa John > Henry" and supposedly died in Shelby County, AL about 1827. His gravesite > cannot be located. John Shaw fought multiple tours in the NC militia as a > Mounted Rifleman during the Revolutionary War from Camden/ the Southern > Campaign through Yorktown, serving under Colonel William Washington of > Virginia and General Francis Marion. John Henry Shaw married Mary > Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin on 11 August 1788 in Washington County, TN > which was previously part NC. Mama Mary Margaret was born about 1765 in > Halifax County, VA and died about 1853 in Winston County, MS. She is > believed to be the daughter of either James, Joseph, or William Irvine - > brothers from Southside Virginia. Mama Mary Margaret is buried in the Old > Shaw-Crawford Cemetery, often called Blackwood Ceme! > tery, in the Choctaw National Forest (CNF), Choctaw County, MS near the > Shaw family as well as long time friends/ in-laws Peter and Elizabeth > Crawford. John Henry Shaw and several of his sons/ nephews are credited > with exploring the Tennessee Valley Divide and Mississippi Territory (now > Alabama) prior to the War of 1812 and discovering/ blazing the Genery's > Gap of North-Central Alabama prior to the War of 1812. > > Children: > I. Joseph J. Shaw, M, born during September 1789 > in Washington County NC/ TN and died before1860 in Oktibbeha County, MS. > Daddy Joe Shaw may be the eldest son or a nephew. > II. William W. Shaw, M, born 6 February 1792 in > Chester County, SC and died 17 November 1850 in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka > Colonel William Washington Shaw) > > III. James W. Shaw b. 21 May 1794 in SC (aka Big Jim > or Captain James Washington Shaw) > > IV. Pleasant Shaw b. 1796/7 in SC > > V. John B. H. Shaw b. 5 October 1798 in SC > > VI. William Wiley Shaw b. 20 January 1800 in SC > > VII. Almeron Marmaduke Shaw b. 1801/2 in SC > > VIII. Hamitt or Hammett Shaw b. 1803/4 in SC and died > about 1868 in Winston County, MS. Donated the land for and buried at > Bethel Methodist Church in Winston County, MS. > > IX. Elizabeth Shaw b. 1805/6 in SC > > X. Alexander or Sanders/ Sandy Shaw b. 1807/08 in SC > > XI. Edney Shaw (?) probably daughter-in-law > > XII. Archibald Shaw b. 1810/11 in SC (?) May be a son > or nephew. > > XIII. William S. Shaw b. 1812 in SC (?) and died about > 1878 in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka William Spivey Shaw) May be a son or > nephew who served in the Regular Army during the Seminole and Mexican > Wars. > > > Several other sons are often credited to Papa John and Mama Mary since > they helped raise their orphaned nephews/ nieces, children of James Shaw, > in SC and AL who migrated with them. > > 3. James Washington Shaw, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of > 1812/ Creek Indian Wars, Captain in the Alabama Volunteer Militia, County > Supervisor and Commissioner in Alabama and Mississippi: > James Washington "Big Jim" Shaw was born 21 May 1794 to John Henry Shaw > and Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin Shaw in the Chester District of > South Carolina. He died near Shaw Springs, MS on 9 August 1875 and is > buried next to wife Jane at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between > Ackerman and Sturgis, MS on MS Hwy 12 East. James served as a Private in > the Militia Scout/ Rangers against the British Kempers and Creek Indians > during latter stages of the War of 1812. He was also a Sergeant of Scouts > under his father and Major Sam Dale against the Creeks during the first > two Indian Wars in Alabama. Jim along with his father, brothers, and > pioneers such as Sam and Jim Dale, Thomas and Peter Malone, as well as > John Amory/ Emory traded with numerous Indian tribes and scouted most of > the Alabama Territory. Jim and his brothers along with other comrades in > arms subsequently occupied lands in Shelby and Jefferson Counties of > Alabama even before the Treaty of Fort Jackson. Many! > returned to South Carolina and Georgia to marry in 1818 and 1819 and > immediately brought their brides and families to the rich Cahaba Valley of > Alabama, near present day Birmingham. The first confirmed record of Jim > Shaw in Shelby County, Alabama is on the January Term, County Court, in > 1819. Jim Shaw subsequently became a Supervisor in Shelby County from > 1819-1823 and later a Commissioner for Shelby County from 1823-1825. He > was relieved of his Commissioner duties in 1825 due to his failure to act/ > absence while serving with the Alabama Militia scouting the Great > Tennessee Road, Great Military Road/ Noxubee Trail, and Choctaw land. > James and William Shaw had some role supporting Thomas Malone as Assistant > Indian Agent for the U.S. Government during negotiation of the Treaty of > Dancing Rabbit Creek in the Choctaw Cede, now Noxubee County, MS, in 1830. > Joseph J. "Daddy Joe" Shaw occupied land in Oktibbeha County, MS; COL. > William Washington Shaw purchased and occupied ! > choice land obtained from the Malone Family in Winston County, MS; CPT > . James Washington Shaw purchased tracts of land in Choctaw and Oktibbeha > Counties of MS; and Samuel Houston Shaw purchased large tracts of land in > Noxubee County, MS. These farms are actually in close proximity to one > another near the intersection of the county lines along Shaw Road. Jim > Shaw moved his family from Alabama to the Choctaw/ Oktibbeha County, MS > line in either 1833 or early 1834. Jim Shaw married Jane "Jenny" > Bagwell, born 19 February 1799 to Frederick Bagwell, Sr and Mary "Polly" > Hill in the Chester District of South Carolina. She died near Shaw > Springs, MS on 27 September 1875 and is buried next to James at the > Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS on MS > Hwy 12 East. > > Children: > I. Jane Shaw, F, born before 1824 in Shelby > County, AL > > II. Elizabeth Elvira Shaw, F, born in 1824 in > Shelby County, AL > > III. Mary Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby > County, AL > > IV. Nancy Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, > AL > > V. James Emory "Blind Jim" Shaw, M, born 1829 in > Shelby County, AL and turned blind as a child. He died in Oktibbeha > County, MS about 1905. Buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist > Church Cemetery. > > VI. William Jasper Newton "Jack" Shaw, M, born 1830 > in Shelby County, AL and buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist > Church Cemetery. > > VII. Angeline Shaw, F, born 1832 in Shelby County, AL > > VIII. John David Carson Shaw, M, born 1833 in Shelby > County, AL > > IX. John Benjamin Franklin "Johnny Frank" Shaw, M, > born 1835 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown > > X. John Baptist Martin Shaw, M, born 1837 in > Choctaw County, MS and died ??, buried in Shaw-Crawford, now Blackwood, > Cemetery > > XI. R. Austin Washington Shaw, M, born 1838/ 39 in > Choctaw County, MS and died ??. > > XII. Samuel Houghston Shaw, born 1841 in Choctaw > County, MS and died 1900 at Fentress in Choctaw County, MS > > > 4. Samuel Houghston Shaw, 4th SGT Confederate States of America (CSA) > Army and County Supervisor: > Samuel Houghston "Hugh" Shaw was born in 1841 to James W. "Big Jim" Shaw > and Jane "Jenny" Bagwell Shaw in Choctaw County, MS. He was named after > other family members (possibly an Uncle) as well as both the Reverand Sam > Houston, uncle of Governor/ General Sam Houston of NC and TN, and the > General who both his father and grandfather had served under in the > militia. Hugh served first as a Private and later Sergeant in Company K, > "The Choctaw Greys", of the 15th Mississippi Infantry Regiment from 19 > September 1861 until July 1863 when part of the unit surrendered and/ or > was captured during the retreat from Vicksburg. Hugh Shaw was fortunate > enough to evade capture, escape, or be repatriated in a prisoner swap in > 1863 and returned to duty as a 4th Sergeant in Company K of the Composite > 15th Mississippi Infantry Regiment from the Fall of 1863 until 28 April > 1865 when the unit surrendered as part of General Joe Johnston's Army at > Greensboro, North Carolina. Hugh had an extensi! > ve service record and was wounded multiple times in some of the worst > fighting at Shiloh, Vicksburg, Atlanta, Chattanooga, and Franklin. Later, > Hugh served as a Supervisor for the Fentress District of Choctaw County, > MS from 1876-1884. Hugh Shaw died in 1899 and is buried at the Bethlehem > Baptist Church between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS. > > Children: > I. Eliza Jane Shaw, F, born 1866/ 67 in Choctaw > County, MS. She married a Bradford (?), moved to Texas before 1905, and > died unknown (named after both grandmothers). > > II. Thomas Washington Shaw, M, born 1868 in Choctaw > County, MS, see below (named after both grandfathers, see below). > > III. James Ervin Shaw, M, born 1870/ 71 in Choctaw > County, MS, died before 1900 (named after paternal greatgrandfathers). > His widow and children also moved to Texas before 1905. > > IV. William Francis (?/ some family say Franklin > instead) Shaw, M, born 1872 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown (named > after mix?). > > V. Samuel Thomas Shaw, M, born 1874 in Choctaw > County, MS and died unknown. (named after maternal greatgrandfathers). > > VI. Charmie Bertha Shaw, F, born 1876 in Choctaw > County, MS and died unknown (named after Unknown). > > > 5. Thomas Washington Shaw: > Thomas Washington Shaw was born on 14 November 1868 at Fentress, East of > Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. Tom was the eldest son of Samuel > Houghston "Hugh" Shaw and Olivia Margaret "Dollie or Olley" Fulcher Shaw. > He was named after his grandfathers: Thomas Dillon Fulcher and James > Washington Shaw. Tom married Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone on 3 July 1891 > in Fentress, MS. He married Addie Irene Childress, 23 years his junior, > on 24 December 1914 following Mary's death in 1913. Tom died on 27 > November 1920 of a heart attack on the Main Street of Ackerman in Choctaw > County, MS. Tom is buried at Enon Cumberland Presbyterian Church, just > Northeast of Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. > > Children: > I. Ella Jane Shaw, F, born on 8 Mar 1892 in > Choctaw County, MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? > II. Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr , M, born 22 > October 1894 in Choctaw County, MS and died 19 June 1969 in Winston > County, MS (see below) > > III. Bertha M. Shaw, F, born Jan 1897 in Choctaw > County, MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? > > IV. William Jasper "Jack" Newton Shaw, M, born Oct > 1899 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1975 in Atlanta, GA. Married ? > > V. Unk Infant, F., born in 1900/ 01, died? > > VI. James Thomas "Jim-Tom" Shaw, M, born 1903 in > Choctaw County, MS and died 1984 in Shreveport, LA. Married a Haimes. > > VII. Mary Emma Shaw, F, born 1905 in Choctaw County, MS > and died 1997 in Choctaw County, MS. Married Elmer Wylie. > > VIII. John Henry F. Shaw, M, born 1907 in Choctaw > County, MS and died 1932 in Winston County, MS, Married ? > > IX. Unk infant, M, born in 1909, died? > > X. Ruth Geniveve "Geneva" Shaw, F, born 1911 in > Choctaw County, MS and died 1998 in Harlen County, KY. Married James > Weeks. > > XI. Unk Infant, ?, died at birth on 10 August 1913. > > XII. Lucy Ellen Shaw, F, born on 10 Feb 1915 in Ackerman, Choctaw > County, MS > > XIII. Olivia "Ollie" Frances Shaw, F, born on 15 Feb 1916 in > Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS > > XIV. EIla Pearl Shaw, F, born on 4 Jan 1919 in Ackerman, > Choctaw County, MS > > XV. Tommie Lee Shaw, F, born on 30 Sep 1920 in Ackerman, > Choctaw County, MS > > > 6. Charles Huston Shaw, Sr, Fireman First Class (F1C)/ Chief Water Tender > (CWT), US Navy: > Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr. was born 22 October 1894 in Ackerman, > MS which is the county seat for Choctaw County, MS. Charlie was the > eldest son of Thomas Washington "Tom" Shaw and Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone > who lived near Fentress in Choctaw County, MS. He is named after his > grandfathers, Charles Spiva Malone and Samuel Houghston Shaw. Charlie > served in the US Navy during WWI on four different ships including the > battleship USS Oklahoma and Heavy Battle Cruiser Kearsarge for training > and escort duty as well as Fireman First Class and Chief Water Tender on > two Cargo/ Transport Ships, the USS Susquehanna and USS Alaskan. He was > nominated for the Distinguished Service Cross (DSC-Navy) and received two > awards of the Distinguished Service Medal (DSM) for multiple actions on > two different ships. Charlie was injured, badly burned, and partially > disabled while saving the USS Susquehanna in January 1918. Charlie > returned to France in 1919 in order to receive a Croix de! > Guerre and his admission as a Knight or Chevalier Legionne d'Honneur > (Legion of Honor) from the government of France based on his service in > WWI as well. The US Navy named Liberty Ship USNS 3117, "The Charles H. > Shaw", after he and another named merchantman during WWII which was > launched at the end of the war in 1945. Charlie married Lucy Merrow > "Moira or Myra" Wylie, daughter of Addison Youngblood Wylie and Cordelia > Chancellor on 25 July 1925. Charlie died on 26 June 1969 at Louisville in > Winston County, MS. He is buried at New Hope Methodist Church on Hwy 14 > East in Winston County, MS. > > Children: > I. PFC (Samuel) Thomas Addison Shaw, M, born 30 Mar > 1926 in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 5 Mar 1992 in Jackson, > Hinds County, MS. Thomas is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery > on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, MS. > > II. SGT Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, M, born 01 May 1927 > in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 22 Aug 1992 in Meridian, > Lauderdale County, MS. Junior is buried in the new Philadelphia, MS > Municipal Cemetery (See Below). > > III. Charmie Iree Shaw, F, born 23 Jan 1929 in Shaw > Springs, Winston County, MS, and died on 2 July 1995 in Louisville, > Winston County, MS. CIS is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery > on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, MS next to Diane and Thomas. > > IV. Paul Jean/ Gene Shaw, M, born 13 Oct 1942 in > Louisville, Winston County, MS and died 9 May 1999 in Pass Christian, MS. > Cremated. > > V. Patricia Dianne Shaw, F, born 21 Apr 1947 in Louisville, > Winston County, MS and died 28 July 1973 in Memphis, Shelby County, TN. > Dianne is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, > Winston County, MS next to CIS and Thomas. > > Numerous other sons/ daughters, 13 children total. > > > 7. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, SGT, US Army: > Charles Houston "Junior" Shaw was born 01 May 1927 at Shaw Springs, MS. > He was the second son of Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw and Lucy Merrow > "Moira" Wylie of Shaw Springs and Gum Branch in Winston County, MS. He is > named after his father/ greatgrandfathers. Charles "Junior" is descended > from John Henry Shaw, Frederick Bagwell, Drury Malone, and James Wyley > with relations to these same Shaws, Bagwells, Malones, and Wyleys back to > VA and NC. Charles or "Junior" served 2 tours, over 7 years, in the US > Army including active duty and reserves before, during, and after the > Korean War. Junior served in the US Army as an Artilleryman during the > Korean War in the Military District of Washington. He married Delilah Ann > "Nell" Hunt, daughter of Floyd Wesley Hunt and Mamie Jane Dempsey, on 22 > January 1955. They moved to Philadelphia in Neshoba County, MS in 1957. > Charles also served 28 years as a Mississippi State Highway Patrolman > there. They had three children who are still ! > living today. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. died on 20 August 1992 in > Meridian, Lauderdale County, MS. He is buried at the Philadelphia > Municipal Cemetery in Neshoba County, MS where he made his home. > > Children: > Charles Houston Shaw, III and two others. > > 8. Charles Houston Shaw, III, Colonel, US Army (Retired): > Charles Houston Shaw, III, was born 07 October 1957 in Louisville, Winston > County, MS. He is the eldest son of Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. and Delilah > Ann Hunt of Shaw Springs and Edgefield in Winston County, MS respectively. > He is named after his father/ grandfather/ greatgrandfathers, married > Maria Elena Almanza, 5 children and 9 grandchildren. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nance" <nance7@embarqmail.com> > To: "Charles and Maria Shaw" <theshawclan@comcast.net>; > <shaw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname > Project > > >>I have many Shaw's in Harpersville, Shelby Co, AL. Mostly children of Hugh >>L >> Shaw and Annie Catherine Lybrand. Are these kin to yours? According to >> my >> records, mostly from Elaine Hendricks - God be good to her, Hugh H is the >> son of Hugh and Elizabeth Finley, or maybe Hugh Jr and Elizabeth Finley? >> >> nance (my first post to this site) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles and Maria Shaw" <theshawclan@comcast.net> >> To: <dmcshaw@hughes.net> >> Cc: <shaw@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname >> Project >> >> >>> Denise, >>> >>> I just submitted a Y-DNA 67 sample to Family Tree last week and >>> expect >>> the results to be posted by the end on the month. We have several of >>> our >>> related lines back 13 generations and our Shaw line definitely goes back >>> to the 1750-60s in NC. I am originally from Mississippi with numerous >>> relatives in MS, AL, AR, and TX. This Shaw family line goes back >>> through >>> AL, some GA and others SC, TN/ NC, and VA or MD. Our oral history also >>> indicates migrating through VA or MD from Ulster (County Antrim) after >>> arrival in PA. >>> >>> Our Shaw family were allied to and inter-married with the Wyley/ >>> Wylly, >>> Irwin/ Irvine, Miller, Bagwell, Jones, Spiva/ Spivey, Malone and other >>> Orange families back to Old Augusta - now Botetourt and Bedford Counties >>> of VA. I have at least a dozen family lines that were in Old Augusta >>> County, VA by 1735 and later Old Orange County, NC which later split >>> into >>> Caswell/ Persons and Wake/ Durham Counties of NC. They all ended up in >>> Old Washington County, NC (later became TN) following the Revolution. >>> John Henry Shaw was born on the VA and NC line (Caswell County) in 1763. >>> Papa John married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine in Washington County, TN >>> on >>> 11 August 1788 in the area later identified as Cherokee lands in 1790. >>> Consequently, Papa John and Mama Mary moved several times ending up in >>> Shelby County, AL by 1818 where he died. Mama Mary came to MS with her >>> family in 1834 and died in 1853. I am descended from their son, Captain >>> James Washington Shaw, who was an original set! >>> tler in the Choctaw Cede of MS during 1833. >>> >>> Concerning DNA Testing, I've been looking at this for some time and >>> studying the mutation rates for many markers - all vary at different >>> rates. In order to get back to the Colonial Era of interest with any >>> degree of accurracy, the 25 marker test is probably not sufficient and >>> even the 37 marker test is only marginal for a HaploGroup. I ordered >>> the >>> new Y-DNA 67 marker test for this reason. I'll let you know when the >>> sample is posted. Thanks for all your efforts. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck Shaw >>> >>> Charles and Maria Shaw >>> 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop >>> Lake Manassas >>> Gainesville, VA 20155 >>> E-mail: theshawclan@comcast.net >>> Home: 703-753-0549 >>> Cell: 703-408-7319 >>> >>> Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL >>> Vice President >>> METRON, Incorporated >>> 11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 800 >>> Reston, VA 20190 >>> E-mail: shaw@metsci.com >>> Office: 703-787-8700, x474 >>> Mobile: 703-835-4553 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Denise Shaw" <dmcshaw@hughes.net> >>> To: <shaw@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:23 PM >>> Subject: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project >>> >>> >>>> The Shaw line originating from the Prince George's County and Charles >>>> County, Maryland area is looking for paternal male Shaw descendants to >>>> participate in the DNA Shaw Surname project. We are trying to establish >>>> proof of lineage for the William and Priscilla Shaw line from southern >>>> Maryland. Recently, two Shaw descendants submitted DNA for testing, one >>>> from >>>> Charles County, MD and one from CA. DNA testing confirmed that they are >>>> "cousins," descending from William and Priscilla, through their sons, >>>> Luke >>>> Lewis Shaw and William S. Shaw. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It is believed that William Shaw was born abt 1767 in Maryland and he >>>> died >>>> about 1821-1822 in Charles County, MD. He married Priscilla (MNU) abt >>>> 1785 >>>> in Maryland. Priscilla was born abt 1760 in Maryland and died abt 1833 >>>> in >>>> Nicholas County, KY. After William's death, Priscilla Shaw moved from >>>> Charles County, MD, to Nicholas County, KY, to join her son, Luke Lewis >>>> Shaw >>>> (1796-1878), who was already living in KY by 1815. Priscilla took the >>>> four >>>> youngest children with her to KY, namely John Anderson Shaw (abt >>>> 1806-1881), >>>> James Shaw (abt 1810-?), Ann Shaw (abt 1805-1874), and Matilda Shaw >>>> (abt >>>> 1808-?). It appears the four oldest Shaw children, Sarah (1786-?), >>>> Joseph >>>> (1786-1865) (twin to Sarah), Samuel (1791-?) and William S. Shaw >>>> (1793-1862) >>>> stayed behind in Maryland. Joseph Shaw eventually moved to the KY/IN >>>> areas, >>>> as he died in Ripley County, Indiana in 1865. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If we can get more people to participate in the Shaw Surname DNA >>>> project, >>>> we >>>> are hoping to one day find a match even further back than William and >>>> Priscilla Shaw, perhaps back to our original presumed ancestry from >>>> England, >>>> Ireland or Scotland. To accomplish this, we need as many male Shaw >>>> descendants as possible who descend from the paternal Shaw side to >>>> participate in the DNA matching project. For more information, please >>>> go >>>> to >>>> the Shaw DNA Project page at: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/s/shaw/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Once there, you can learn about how DNA testing works, etc. You can >>>> click >>>> on >>>> the "Recruitment" link to learn how to participate. The "Results" link >>>> shows >>>> the Shaw line participants and matches to date. There is also a >>>> "patriarchs" >>>> page for posting family trees. If you decide to participate, you will >>>> order >>>> your DNA test kit directly from the project. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The cost per participant is dependent on the number of markers tested, >>>> but >>>> all tests include an estimate of the Haplogroup (an indication of deep >>>> ancestry). It is recommended that you test the largest number of >>>> markers >>>> that you can afford, however, there is a basic 12 marker test >>>> available. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It is important for as many Shaw descendants to participate as >>>> possible. >>>> However, if you believe you are descended from or connected to this >>>> specific >>>> southern Maryland Shaw line, and you absolutely cannot afford the cost >>>> of >>>> testing, we have a few Shaw descendants who are willing to assist in >>>> paying >>>> some of the costs of the testing. If you would like to request >>>> financial >>>> assistance or sponsorship for DNA testing, please make a request to me, >>>> and >>>> provide information on your southern Maryland Shaw family connection. >>>> Requests for testing sponsorship will be reviewed and considered on a >>>> case-by-case basis, and is dependent upon the number of requests we >>>> receive, >>>> as we have a limited amount of sponsorship monies available. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you wish to contribute to the Shaw grant/sponsorship program to help >>>> promote Shaw DNA testing, please let me know. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please consider participating, and please pass this information along >>>> to >>>> other Shaw relatives who might be interested. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Denise Shaw >>>> >>>> dmcshaw@hughes.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: > 10/16/2007 2:14 PM > >

Hi, There are a couple of errors and I hope that you will correct them...thanks. William B. Shaw born March 24, 1801 in South Carolina is my gr-gr-gr grandfather and HE IS the one who married Jinnat "Jane", also called "Jennie" McCorkle born Feb. 18. 1802 in South Carolina and daughter of Stephen McCorkle and Mary Patterson. William is the son of William Shaw who fought in the Rev. War and was of Irish descent. I know this from Shaw family Bible records. I know that my gr-gr-gr grandparents lived 20 miles outside of Charleston, SC and had several children there before they migrated to Parke County, Indiana around 1830 or so. Thanks so much, Michelle (Shaw) Tambellini -------------- Original message from "Charles and Maria Shaw" <theshawclan@comcast.net>: -------------- > Numerous Shaw Cousins, > > I did not expect quite the response my previous e-mail/ posting today > created wrt Y-DNA Testing. It was quite gratifying to see several postings from > other Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi Shaws including some new participants. > Rather than attempting to answer a number of you individually since I depart on > travel early in the morning, I've attached the cut-down version of our MS Shaw > Family line as we know it below - there are at least 3 distinct groups of Shaws > in Mississippi. We hope the Y-DNA results will help resolve several different > but possibly related Shaw lines in early TN and Colonial VA. Apparently, we've > already discovered a Miller who married into the Wyley family living next to > several Shaws prior to 1800 is probably a Shaw by all indications, another > reason for the 67 marker DNA Test since the 25 marker test is not conclusive. > Hope this helps answer a few questions for some of you and any info welcome. > Perhaps the DNA testing will pay off. Thanks. > > > Chuck Shaw > > COL. Charles Houston Shaw, III, CPL (US Army, Retired) > 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop > Lake Manassas > Gainesville, VA 20155 > Home: 703-753-0549 > theshawclan@comcast.net > > Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL > Vice President > METRON, Incorporated > 11911 Freedom Drive > Tower One, Suite 800 > Reston, VA 20910 > Work: 703-787-8700, x474 > Mobile: 703-835-4553 > shaw@metsci.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------- > > 1. William or John Shaw, PVTs in the Virginia Militia during the French and > Indian War under Captain Talbot and others, later PVTs in the Virginia and North > Carolina Volunteer Militias: > Majority of evidence points to either William or John Shaw born about 1733/ 35 > to John Shaw in Augusta County, VA (Probably one of several John and William > Shaws who migrated from Ulster via Pennsylvania with the Irvives/ House of Drum, > Wyleys, Crawfords, Millers, etc. or possibly John Shaw and Elizabeth Jenkins of > Charles County, MD - still not verified). These Shaws and extended family ended > up in Augusta County, the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, which became Botetourt, > Bedford, Lunenberg, etc. counties migrating to Halifax County, Virginia as well > as Orange/ Caswell and Wake/ Durham Counties, North Carolina by 1760. Our oral > history also indicates they were Borderer Scots allied to the Irvines of > Bonshaw, Johnstones, Wyleys, and Crawfords originally from Dumfriesshire. > However, they were also seafarers who left those lands in the 16th Century with > the Irvines/ Sons of Drum to go to Antrim as well as many of the Western Isles > often running from the English, etc. and hi! > ding for some time on the remote Hebrides and Isle of Jura. They eventually > migrated to PA and through VA or MD from County Antrim shortly after the turn of > the 18th Century. They were then and our family remains devout Presbyterians. > They fought on both sides of the Regulator Uprising in NC, 1768-1771. Captain > Robert B. Schaw was a militia commander supporting the crown at the Battle of > Alamance while several other Shaws, Wyleys, Spivas, Merrills, etc. were all > Regulators. I am a direct descendant of Sgt James Wyley who died of wounds > received in this conflict/ pneumonia and Captain Benjamin Merrill who was hung, > drawn, and quartered by Royal Governor Tryon in 1771. > > Children: > I. Robert B. Shaw > II. Dorcas Shaw > III. William Shaw born before 1759 in VA and died TBD. William Shaw > fought with the NC Militia during the Revolutionary War and married Jennat > "Jennie" McCorkle in NC (later TN) following the war. They had multiple > children including a son, William Baptist Shaw, who was born on 24 March 1801 in > the Chester District of South Carolina. Jennie was the daughter of Stephen > McCorkle and Mary Patterson of North and South Carolina. > IV. James Shaw, M, born about 1760/61 in then Orange County, now Caswell > County, NC and died about 1807 in Chester County, SC. Likely married to Mary A. > Pendergrast who was born about 1762 in NC also and died 26 July 1816 in Chester > County, SC. James and Mary were married on 9 January 1786 in Caswell County, NC > prior to moving to TN and then SC. > V. John Shaw, M, born about 1763 in Orange County, now Caswell County, > NC. John Henry Shaw migrated to TN, SC, GA, and AL and supposedly died about > 1827 in either Morgan County, GA or Shelby County, AL. Married on 11 August > 1788 to Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin who was born about 1765 in Halifax > County, VA and died 1853 in Choctaw County, MS. > VI. Elizabeth Shaw born about 1765 in then Orange County, now Caswell > County, NC. > > Guilford County, North Carolina Court Records > Euta page 345 in Nov. 1793 > William Shaw's Will dated September 1793, probate November 1793 > In the Name of God Amen - > I, William Shaw; being weak in body but sound in memory thanks be to God for it > & Calling to Mind that its appointed for Man Once to die, And after that the > resurrection. I do Make this my Last will and testment, > To Viz, First that I allow my body to be buried in a desent manner at the > discretion of My Execitors Nothing Doubting but I Shall Receiv the same at the > Resurrection at the Last day ---- > First I allow all my just & Lawful Debts to be paid. I, the aforesaid William > Shaw do leave My two beloved Brothers (that is Joseph Ross & Benjamin) all my > clothes to be Equally divided between them, also my Beloved Mother & my two > young sisters Jean Ross & Susana they are to be three pounds to be equally > divided among them; the rest of My Estate is to be Equally divided Between my > two older Sisters (That is Sarah Shaw & Grizzald and Grizzald youngest boy named > Thomas Ross those three is to have equal shares --- > I always appoint Thomas Wyley and Robert Shaw to Execute this My Last will and > testment -- This Ninth Day of September 1793 > > s/ Wm. Shaw > Witness in the presents of: William Matthews; Jurat > > NOTE: The Shaw and Wyley families of North Carolina and their descendant's have > been closely related to the Irvine/ Irwin, Crawford, Johnston, Miller, Spiva, > Gaston, Youngblood, Adams, McClure, etc. families for generations from Virginia > to NC/ TN, SC/ GA, AL, & MS. > > State of North Carolina, Guilford County - November Court 1793 > William Matthews approved the within will on Motion admitted to record. > Test: John Hamilton > The last will & Testament of William Shaw Des. was proven in open Court and on > Motion let it be recorded then came in Thomas Wiley & Robert Shaw, Esqrs. in > said will appointed and Qualified as such agreeable to law - the will was proven > by the oath of William Matthews a subscribing witness thereto. > > NOTE: This will was also originally executed and filed in Edgefield county, SC > where William Shaw died and is buried. > > Guilford County, North Carolina, C.046.3001 Court Minutes Vol. III, p. 10, 1797 > Alexander Gray Esqr. & Sampson Powel are appointed a Committee to Settle the > Estate of William Shaw Dec'd. with the Exrs. of the same Estate & make report > the next Court . > > 2. John Henry Shaw, PVT in the North Carolina Militia during the Revolutionary > War, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ Creek Indian Wars, > Captain in the Georgia and Alabama Volunteer Militia: > John Henry Shaw was born in 1763 to William Shaw (some think possibly John or > Joseph Shaw ) in then Orange and now Caswell County, NC near the Halifax County, > VA line. John Henry Shaw was also known as "Papa John Henry" and supposedly > died in Shelby County, AL about 1827. His gravesite cannot be located. John > Shaw fought multiple tours in the NC militia as a Mounted Rifleman during the > Revolutionary War from Camden/ the Southern Campaign through Yorktown, serving > under Colonel William Washington of Virginia and General Francis Marion. John > Henry Shaw married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin on 11 August 1788 in > Washington County, TN which was previously part NC. Mama Mary Margaret was born > about 1765 in Halifax County, VA and died about 1853 in Winston County, MS. She > is believed to be the daughter of either James, Joseph, or William Irvine - > brothers from Southside Virginia. Mama Mary Margaret is buried in the Old > Shaw-Crawford Cemetery, often called Blackwood Ceme! > tery, in the Choctaw National Forest (CNF), Choctaw County, MS near the Shaw > family as well as long time friends/ in-laws Peter and Elizabeth Crawford. > John Henry Shaw and several of his sons/ nephews are credited with exploring the > Tennessee Valley Divide and Mississippi Territory (now Alabama) prior to the War > of 1812 and discovering/ blazing the Genery's Gap of North-Central Alabama prior > to the War of 1812. > > Children: > I. Joseph J. Shaw, M, born during September 1789 in > Washington County NC/ TN and died before1860 in Oktibbeha County, MS. Daddy Joe > Shaw may be the eldest son or a nephew. > II. William W. Shaw, M, born 6 February 1792 in Chester > County, SC and died 17 November 1850 in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka Colonel > William Washington Shaw) > > III. James W. Shaw b. 21 May 1794 in SC (aka Big Jim or > Captain James Washington Shaw) > > IV. Pleasant Shaw b. 1796/7 in SC > > V. John B. H. Shaw b. 5 October 1798 in SC > > VI. William Wiley Shaw b. 20 January 1800 in SC > > VII. Almeron Marmaduke Shaw b. 1801/2 in SC > > VIII. Hamitt or Hammett Shaw b. 1803/4 in SC and died about > 1868 in Winston County, MS. Donated the land for and buried at Bethel Methodist > Church in Winston County, MS. > > IX. Elizabeth Shaw b. 1805/6 in SC > > X. Alexander or Sanders/ Sandy Shaw b. 1807/08 in SC > > XI. Edney Shaw (?) probably daughter-in-law > > XII. Archibald Shaw b. 1810/11 in SC (?) May be a son or > nephew. > > XIII. William S. Shaw b. 1812 in SC (?) and died about 1878 > in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka William Spivey Shaw) May be a son or nephew who > served in the Regular Army during the Seminole and Mexican Wars. > > > Several other sons are often credited to Papa John and Mama Mary since they > helped raise their orphaned nephews/ nieces, children of James Shaw, in SC and > AL who migrated with them. > > 3. James Washington Shaw, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ > Creek Indian Wars, Captain in the Alabama Volunteer Militia, County Supervisor > and Commissioner in Alabama and Mississippi: > James Washington "Big Jim" Shaw was born 21 May 1794 to John Henry Shaw and Mary > Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin Shaw in the Chester District of South Carolina. > He died near Shaw Springs, MS on 9 August 1875 and is buried next to wife Jane > at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS on MS Hwy > 12 East. James served as a Private in the Militia Scout/ Rangers against the > British Kempers and Creek Indians during latter stages of the War of 1812. He > was also a Sergeant of Scouts under his father and Major Sam Dale against the > Creeks during the first two Indian Wars in Alabama. Jim along with his father, > brothers, and pioneers such as Sam and Jim Dale, Thomas and Peter Malone, as > well as John Amory/ Emory traded with numerous Indian tribes and scouted most of > the Alabama Territory. Jim and his brothers along with other comrades in arms > subsequently occupied lands in Shelby and Jefferson Counties of Alabama even > before the Treaty of Fort Jackson. Many! > returned to South Carolina and Georgia to marry in 1818 and 1819 and > immediately brought their brides and families to the rich Cahaba Valley of > Alabama, near present day Birmingham. The first confirmed record of Jim Shaw in > Shelby County, Alabama is on the January Term, County Court, in 1819. Jim Shaw > subsequently became a Supervisor in Shelby County from 1819-1823 and later a > Commissioner for Shelby County from 1823-1825. He was relieved of his > Commissioner duties in 1825 due to his failure to act/ absence while serving > with the Alabama Militia scouting the Great Tennessee Road, Great Military Road/ > Noxubee Trail, and Choctaw land. James and William Shaw had some role > supporting Thomas Malone as Assistant Indian Agent for the U.S. Government > during negotiation of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek in the Choctaw Cede, > now Noxubee County, MS, in 1830. Joseph J. "Daddy Joe" Shaw occupied land in > Oktibbeha County, MS; COL. William Washington Shaw purchased and occupied ! > choice land obtained from the Malone Family in Winston County, MS; CPT > . James Washington Shaw purchased tracts of land in Choctaw and Oktibbeha > Counties of MS; and Samuel Houston Shaw purchased large tracts of land in > Noxubee County, MS. These farms are actually in close proximity to one another > near the intersection of the county lines along Shaw Road. Jim Shaw moved his > family from Alabama to the Choctaw/ Oktibbeha County, MS line in either 1833 or > early 1834. Jim Shaw married Jane "Jenny" Bagwell, born 19 February 1799 to > Frederick Bagwell, Sr and Mary "Polly" Hill in the Chester District of South > Carolina. She died near Shaw Springs, MS on 27 September 1875 and is buried > next to James at the Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and > Sturgis, MS on MS Hwy 12 East. > > Children: > I. Jane Shaw, F, born before 1824 in Shelby County, AL > > II. Elizabeth Elvira Shaw, F, born in 1824 in Shelby > County, AL > > III. Mary Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, AL > > IV. Nancy Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, AL > > V. James Emory "Blind Jim" Shaw, M, born 1829 in Shelby > County, AL and turned blind as a child. He died in Oktibbeha County, MS about > 1905. Buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery. > > VI. William Jasper Newton "Jack" Shaw, M, born 1830 in > Shelby County, AL and buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist Church > Cemetery. > > VII. Angeline Shaw, F, born 1832 in Shelby County, AL > > VIII. John David Carson Shaw, M, born 1833 in Shelby County, > AL > > IX. John Benjamin Franklin "Johnny Frank" Shaw, M, born > 1835 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown > > X. John Baptist Martin Shaw, M, born 1837 in Choctaw > County, MS and died ??, buried in Shaw-Crawford, now Blackwood, Cemetery > > XI. R. Austin Washington Shaw, M, born 1838/ 39 in Choctaw > County, MS and died ??. > > XII. Samuel Houghston Shaw, born 1841 in Choctaw County, MS > and died 1900 at Fentress in Choctaw County, MS > > > 4. Samuel Houghston Shaw, 4th SGT Confederate States of America (CSA) Army and > County Supervisor: > Samuel Houghston "Hugh" Shaw was born in 1841 to James W. "Big Jim" Shaw and > Jane "Jenny" Bagwell Shaw in Choctaw County, MS. He was named after other > family members (possibly an Uncle) as well as both the Reverand Sam Houston, > uncle of Governor/ General Sam Houston of NC and TN, and the General who both > his father and grandfather had served under in the militia. Hugh served first > as a Private and later Sergeant in Company K, "The Choctaw Greys", of the 15th > Mississippi Infantry Regiment from 19 September 1861 until July 1863 when part > of the unit surrendered and/ or was captured during the retreat from Vicksburg. > Hugh Shaw was fortunate enough to evade capture, escape, or be repatriated in a > prisoner swap in 1863 and returned to duty as a 4th Sergeant in Company K of the > Composite 15th Mississippi Infantry Regiment from the Fall of 1863 until 28 > April 1865 when the unit surrendered as part of General Joe Johnston's Army at > Greensboro, North Carolina. Hugh had an extensi! > ve service record and was wounded multiple times in some of the worst fighting > at Shiloh, Vicksburg, Atlanta, Chattanooga, and Franklin. Later, Hugh served as > a Supervisor for the Fentress District of Choctaw County, MS from 1876-1884. > Hugh Shaw died in 1899 and is buried at the Bethlehem Baptist Church between > Ackerman and Sturgis, MS. > > Children: > I. Eliza Jane Shaw, F, born 1866/ 67 in Choctaw County, > MS. She married a Bradford (?), moved to Texas before 1905, and died unknown > (named after both grandmothers). > > II. Thomas Washington Shaw, M, born 1868 in Choctaw > County, MS, see below (named after both grandfathers, see below). > > III. James Ervin Shaw, M, born 1870/ 71 in Choctaw > County, MS, died before 1900 (named after paternal greatgrandfathers). His > widow and children also moved to Texas before 1905. > > IV. William Francis (?/ some family say Franklin instead) > Shaw, M, born 1872 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown (named after mix?). > > V. Samuel Thomas Shaw, M, born 1874 in Choctaw County, > MS and died unknown. (named after maternal greatgrandfathers). > > VI. Charmie Bertha Shaw, F, born 1876 in Choctaw County, > MS and died unknown (named after Unknown). > > > 5. Thomas Washington Shaw: > Thomas Washington Shaw was born on 14 November 1868 at Fentress, East of > Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. Tom was the eldest son of Samuel Houghston > "Hugh" Shaw and Olivia Margaret "Dollie or Olley" Fulcher Shaw. He was named > after his grandfathers: Thomas Dillon Fulcher and James Washington Shaw. Tom > married Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone on 3 July 1891 in Fentress, MS. He married > Addie Irene Childress, 23 years his junior, on 24 December 1914 following Mary's > death in 1913. Tom died on 27 November 1920 of a heart attack on the Main > Street of Ackerman in Choctaw County, MS. Tom is buried at Enon Cumberland > Presbyterian Church, just Northeast of Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. > > Children: > I. Ella Jane Shaw, F, born on 8 Mar 1892 in Choctaw > County, MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? > II. Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr , M, born 22 > October 1894 in Choctaw County, MS and died 19 June 1969 in Winston County, MS > (see below) > > III. Bertha M. Shaw, F, born Jan 1897 in Choctaw County, > MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? > > IV. William Jasper "Jack" Newton Shaw, M, born Oct 1899 in > Choctaw County, MS and died 1975 in Atlanta, GA. Married ? > > V. Unk Infant, F., born in 1900/ 01, died? > > VI. James Thomas "Jim-Tom" Shaw, M, born 1903 in Choctaw > County, MS and died 1984 in Shreveport, LA. Married a Haimes. > > VII. Mary Emma Shaw, F, born 1905 in Choctaw County, MS and > died 1997 in Choctaw County, MS. Married Elmer Wylie. > > VIII. John Henry F. Shaw, M, born 1907 in Choctaw County, MS > and died 1932 in Winston County, MS, Married ? > > IX. Unk infant, M, born in 1909, died? > > X. Ruth Geniveve "Geneva" Shaw, F, born 1911 in Choctaw > County, MS and died 1998 in Harlen County, KY. Married James Weeks. > > XI. Unk Infant, ?, died at birth on 10 August 1913. > > XII. Lucy Ellen Shaw, F, born on 10 Feb 1915 in Ackerman, Choctaw > County, MS > > XIII. Olivia "Ollie" Frances Shaw, F, born on 15 Feb 1916 in > Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS > > XIV. EIla Pearl Shaw, F, born on 4 Jan 1919 in Ackerman, Choctaw > County, MS > > XV. Tommie Lee Shaw, F, born on 30 Sep 1920 in Ackerman, > Choctaw County, MS > > > 6. Charles Huston Shaw, Sr, Fireman First Class (F1C)/ Chief Water Tender > (CWT), US Navy: > Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr. was born 22 October 1894 in Ackerman, MS > which is the county seat for Choctaw County, MS. Charlie was the eldest son of > Thomas Washington "Tom" Shaw and Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone who lived near > Fentress in Choctaw County, MS. He is named after his grandfathers, Charles > Spiva Malone and Samuel Houghston Shaw. Charlie served in the US Navy during > WWI on four different ships including the battleship USS Oklahoma and Heavy > Battle Cruiser Kearsarge for training and escort duty as well as Fireman First > Class and Chief Water Tender on two Cargo/ Transport Ships, the USS Susquehanna > and USS Alaskan. He was nominated for the Distinguished Service Cross > (DSC-Navy) and received two awards of the Distinguished Service Medal (DSM) for > multiple actions on two different ships. Charlie was injured, badly burned, and > partially disabled while saving the USS Susquehanna in January 1918. Charlie > returned to France in 1919 in order to receive a Croix de! > Guerre and his admission as a Knight or Chevalier Legionne d'Honneur (Legion > of Honor) from the government of France based on his service in WWI as well. > The US Navy named Liberty Ship USNS 3117, "The Charles H. Shaw", after he and > another named merchantman during WWII which was launched at the end of the war > in 1945. Charlie married Lucy Merrow "Moira or Myra" Wylie, daughter of Addison > Youngblood Wylie and Cordelia Chancellor on 25 July 1925. Charlie died on 26 > June 1969 at Louisville in Winston County, MS. He is buried at New Hope > Methodist Church on Hwy 14 East in Winston County, MS. > > Children: > I. PFC (Samuel) Thomas Addison Shaw, M, born 30 Mar 1926 > in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 5 Mar 1992 in Jackson, Hinds > County, MS. Thomas is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 > East, Winston County, MS. > > II. SGT Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, M, born 01 May 1927 in > Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 22 Aug 1992 in Meridian, Lauderdale > County, MS. Junior is buried in the new Philadelphia, MS Municipal Cemetery > (See Below). > > III. Charmie Iree Shaw, F, born 23 Jan 1929 in Shaw > Springs, Winston County, MS, and died on 2 July 1995 in Louisville, Winston > County, MS. CIS is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, > Winston County, MS next to Diane and Thomas. > > IV. Paul Jean/ Gene Shaw, M, born 13 Oct 1942 in Louisville, > Winston County, MS and died 9 May 1999 in Pass Christian, MS. Cremated. > > V. Patricia Dianne Shaw, F, born 21 Apr 1947 in Louisville, Winston > County, MS and died 28 July 1973 in Memphis, Shelby County, TN. Dianne is > buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, MS > next to CIS and Thomas. > > Numerous other sons/ daughters, 13 children total. > > > 7. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, SGT, US Army: > Charles Houston "Junior" Shaw was born 01 May 1927 at Shaw Springs, MS. He was > the second son of Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw and Lucy Merrow "Moira" Wylie of > Shaw Springs and Gum Branch in Winston County, MS. He is named after his > father/ greatgrandfathers. Charles "Junior" is descended from John Henry Shaw, > Frederick Bagwell, Drury Malone, and James Wyley with relations to these same > Shaws, Bagwells, Malones, and Wyleys back to VA and NC. Charles or "Junior" > served 2 tours, over 7 years, in the US Army including active duty and reserves > before, during, and after the Korean War. Junior served in the US Army as an > Artilleryman during the Korean War in the Military District of Washington. He > married Delilah Ann "Nell" Hunt, daughter of Floyd Wesley Hunt and Mamie Jane > Dempsey, on 22 January 1955. They moved to Philadelphia in Neshoba County, MS in > 1957. Charles also served 28 years as a Mississippi State Highway Patrolman > there. They had three children who are still ! > living today. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. died on 20 August 1992 in Meridian, > Lauderdale County, MS. He is buried at the Philadelphia Municipal Cemetery in > Neshoba County, MS where he made his home. > > Children: > Charles Houston Shaw, III and two others. > > 8. Charles Houston Shaw, III, Colonel, US Army (Retired): > Charles Houston Shaw, III, was born 07 October 1957 in Louisville, Winston > County, MS. He is the eldest son of Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. and Delilah Ann > Hunt of Shaw Springs and Edgefield in Winston County, MS respectively. He is > named after his father/ grandfather/ greatgrandfathers, married Maria Elena > Almanza, 5 children and 9 grandchildren. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nance" > To: "Charles and Maria Shaw" ; > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > > > >I have many Shaw's in Harpersville, Shelby Co, AL. Mostly children of Hugh L > > Shaw and Annie Catherine Lybrand. Are these kin to yours? According to my > > records, mostly from Elaine Hendricks - God be good to her, Hugh H is the > > son of Hugh and Elizabeth Finley, or maybe Hugh Jr and Elizabeth Finley? > > > > nance (my first post to this site) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles and Maria Shaw" > > To: > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > > > > > >> Denise, > >> > >> I just submitted a Y-DNA 67 sample to Family Tree last week and expect > >> the results to be posted by the end on the month. We have several of our > >> related lines back 13 generations and our Shaw line definitely goes back > >> to the 1750-60s in NC. I am originally from Mississippi with numerous > >> relatives in MS, AL, AR, and TX. This Shaw family line goes back through > >> AL, some GA and others SC, TN/ NC, and VA or MD. Our oral history also > >> indicates migrating through VA or MD from Ulster (County Antrim) after > >> arrival in PA. > >> > >> Our Shaw family were allied to and inter-married with the Wyley/ Wylly, > >> Irwin/ Irvine, Miller, Bagwell, Jones, Spiva/ Spivey, Malone and other > >> Orange families back to Old Augusta - now Botetourt and Bedford Counties > >> of VA. I have at least a dozen family lines that were in Old Augusta > >> County, VA by 1735 and later Old Orange County, NC which later split into > >> Caswell/ Persons and Wake/ Durham Counties of NC. They all ended up in > >> Old Washington County, NC (later became TN) following the Revolution. > >> John Henry Shaw was born on the VA and NC line (Caswell County) in 1763. > >> Papa John married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine in Washington County, TN on > >> 11 August 1788 in the area later identified as Cherokee lands in 1790. > >> Consequently, Papa John and Mama Mary moved several times ending up in > >> Shelby County, AL by 1818 where he died. Mama Mary came to MS with her > >> family in 1834 and died in 1853. I am descended from their son, Captain > >> James Washington Shaw, who was an original set! > >> tler in the Choctaw Cede of MS during 1833. > >> > >> Concerning DNA Testing, I've been looking at this for some time and > >> studying the mutation rates for many markers - all vary at different > >> rates. In order to get back to the Colonial Era of interest with any > >> degree of accurracy, the 25 marker test is probably not sufficient and > >> even the 37 marker test is only marginal for a HaploGroup. I ordered the > >> new Y-DNA 67 marker test for this reason. I'll let you know when the > >> sample is posted. Thanks for all your efforts. > >> > >> > >> > >> Chuck Shaw > >> > >> Charles and Maria Shaw > >> 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop > >> Lake Manassas > >> Gainesville, VA 20155 > >> E-mail: theshawclan@comcast.net > >> Home: 703-753-0549 > >> Cell: 703-408-7319 > >> > >> Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL > >> Vice President > >> METRON, Incorporated > >> 11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 800 > >> Reston, VA 20190 > >> E-mail: shaw@metsci.com > >> Office: 703-787-8700, x474 > >> Mobile: 703-835-4553 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Denise Shaw" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:23 PM > >> Subject: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > >> > >> > >>> The Shaw line originating from the Prince George's County and Charles > >>> County, Maryland area is looking for paternal male Shaw descendants to > >>> participate in the DNA Shaw Surname project. We are trying to establish > >>> proof of lineage for the William and Priscilla Shaw line from southern > >>> Maryland. Recently, two Shaw descendants submitted DNA for testing, one > >>> from > >>> Charles County, MD and one from CA. DNA testing confirmed that they are > >>> "cousins," descending from William and Priscilla, through their sons, > >>> Luke > >>> Lewis Shaw and William S. Shaw. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It is believed that William Shaw was born abt 1767 in Maryland and he > >>> died > >>> about 1821-1822 in Charles County, MD. He married Priscilla (MNU) abt > >>> 1785 > >>> in Maryland. Priscilla was born abt 1760 in Maryland and died abt 1833 in > >>> Nicholas County, KY. After William's death, Priscilla Shaw moved from > >>> Charles County, MD, to Nicholas County, KY, to join her son, Luke Lewis > >>> Shaw > >>> (1796-1878), who was already living in KY by 1815. Priscilla took the > >>> four > >>> youngest children with her to KY, namely John Anderson Shaw (abt > >>> 1806-1881), > >>> James Shaw (abt 1810-?), Ann Shaw (abt 1805-1874), and Matilda Shaw (abt > >>> 1808-?). It appears the four oldest Shaw children, Sarah (1786-?), Joseph > >>> (1786-1865) (twin to Sarah), Samuel (1791-?) and William S. Shaw > >>> (1793-1862) > >>> stayed behind in Maryland. Joseph Shaw eventually moved to the KY/IN > >>> areas, > >>> as he died in Ripley County, Indiana in 1865. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If we can get more people to participate in the Shaw Surname DNA project, > >>> we > >>> are hoping to one day find a match even further back than William and > >>> Priscilla Shaw, perhaps back to our original presumed ancestry from > >>> England, > >>> Ireland or Scotland. To accomplish this, we need as many male Shaw > >>> descendants as possible who descend from the paternal Shaw side to > >>> participate in the DNA matching project. For more information, please go > >>> to > >>> the Shaw DNA Project page at: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/s/shaw/index.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Once there, you can learn about how DNA testing works, etc. You can click > >>> on > >>> the "Recruitment" link to learn how to participate. The "Results" link > >>> shows > >>> the Shaw line participants and matches to date. There is also a > >>> "patriarchs" > >>> page for posting family trees. If you decide to participate, you will > >>> order > >>> your DNA test kit directly from the project. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The cost per participant is dependent on the number of markers tested, > >>> but > >>> all tests include an estimate of the Haplogroup (an indication of deep > >>> ancestry). It is recommended that you test the largest number of markers > >>> that you can afford, however, there is a basic 12 marker test available. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It is important for as many Shaw descendants to participate as possible. > >>> However, if you believe you are descended from or connected to this > >>> specific > >>> southern Maryland Shaw line, and you absolutely cannot afford the cost of > >>> testing, we have a few Shaw descendants who are willing to assist in > >>> paying > >>> some of the costs of the testing. If you would like to request financial > >>> assistance or sponsorship for DNA testing, please make a request to me, > >>> and > >>> provide information on your southern Maryland Shaw family connection. > >>> Requests for testing sponsorship will be reviewed and considered on a > >>> case-by-case basis, and is dependent upon the number of requests we > >>> receive, > >>> as we have a limited amount of sponsorship monies available. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you wish to contribute to the Shaw grant/sponsorship program to help > >>> promote Shaw DNA testing, please let me know. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please consider participating, and please pass this information along to > >>> other Shaw relatives who might be interested. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Denise Shaw > >>> > >>> dmcshaw@hughes.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Hi, I'm still looking for the parents of Catherine Vance who married Nathan Shaw. He was born in 1790 and she was born in 1789. Here is the situation.....all the records I find (including those from Fayette Co. books) show that she is Catherine Vance, however, these records also state that she is the daughter of Crawford Vance and Susan Clayton. The census records, etc.. show Crawford's birthdate as 1806 (approx) so it's impossible that he is her father. After trying to find this Catherine Vance for 30 years or more, I am now at the conclusion that maybe Nathan was married to a Catherine by another surname and that her last name was not Vance. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks for your help. Connie Friendship is like peeing your pants: everyone can see it, but only you can feel the true warmth. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

My ggrandfather James A. "Jim" Shaw born 1850/51 in Texas IAW 1880 census for Cooke Co. TX. It also states that his father & mother were born in TX. He married Malissa Aplin & they had 3 children before they split up. Family history says James & family came to Oklahoma where he & Malissa split up. Sher remarried to george Humphries & they resided in Pauls Valley, OK til their deaths. George & Malissa had 2 daughters & they were raised along with my grandfather John W. & his bro. David. I've searched every known source, roots, genforum, anc. family history etc & come up empty. Don't think DNA would help as my mother was the Shaw no my father. Any help, clues etc would be greatly appreceated. jesse mccullar, roho29@allegiance.tv

Hi, Bille. For more information, please go to the Shaw DNA Project page at: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/s/shaw/index.html Once there, you can learn about how DNA testing works, etc. You can click on the "Recruitment" link to learn how to participate. The "Results" link shows the Shaw line participants and matches to date. There is also a "patriarchs" page for posting family trees. If you decide to participate, you will order your DNA test kit directly from the project. The cost per participant is dependent on the number of markers tested, but all tests include an estimate of the Haplogroup (an indication of deep ancestry). It is recommended that you test the largest number of markers that you can afford, however, there is a basic 12 marker test available. It is important for as many Shaw descendants to participate as possible. If you believe you are descended from or connected to this specific southern Maryland Shaw line, and you absolutely cannot afford the cost of testing, we have a few Shaw descendants who are willing to assist in paying some of the costs of the testing. If you would like to request financial assistance or sponsorship for DNA testing, please make a request to me, and provide information on your southern Maryland Shaw family connection. Requests for testing sponsorship will be reviewed and considered on a case-by-case basis, and is dependent upon the number of requests we receive, as we have a limited amount of sponsorship monies available. If you wish to contribute to the Shaw grant/sponsorship program to help promote Shaw DNA testing, please let me know. Please consider participating, and please pass this information along to other Shaw relatives who might be interested. Thanks. Denise Shaw dmcshaw@hughes.net -----Original Message----- From: shaw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:shaw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Billie Powell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:08 PM To: shaw@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHAW] Shaw DNA test Two male descendants of the Shaw line beginning with Angus Shaw on the Isle of Jura are wanting to participate in the Shaw DNA test. Can anyone recommend a site? How expensive it it? What test do you recommend? 1. Angus Shaw and Dushee unknown. Isle of Jura, Scotland (Angus born about 1690) 2. Colin Shaw and Marion McCraney. Colin, born about 1720, emigrated about 1744 to Cumberland County, NC. (McCraneys were also from Isle of Jura Scotland - Marion was a daughter of Murdock McCraney) 3. John Shaw and Frances Faison. (Faisons were from France) 4. Washington Irving Shaw and Mary Graham Robinson. Irving and his wife are buried in Sampson County, NC (Robinsons were from Isle of Arran, Scotland) 5. Washington Irving Shaw, Jr. and Margaret R. Enos. (Enos family was from Germany) 6. their two sons, both deceased 7. two male first cousins Billie Shaw Powell, a female descendant ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Billie: I found your query on rootsweb list and I too seek Shaw info - have DNA kit just never sent it in yet. When I swab my father it will be returned to Family Tree DNA in Houston TX. They sent me the kit for free and I return it with info and swabs. Cost is under$200 depending on the DNA count you want. See the site - you can hit SHAW DNA list and see others who have taken the test - and same for other last names, like McNeill. I am getting the 25 (y-dna25) test - cost with tax in canada ws $152.. It says nothing of shipping costs for my results so I gather they pay postage as it would just be written results. Colonsay website has some great info on Angus Shaw and his father Dushee. It lists his mother as well and some siblings who ARE known and suggests others who are not known to be as yet. I think I too might fit in to this particular tree but not sure. www.colonsay.org or google colonsay and you will see a link to a colonsay site - scroll to left top under History and hit the genealogy button, and one name studies, etc.... You will find the article on Angus there. Please keep in touch. I am assuming your relations are from the Southern states. Perhaps if we could get more Shaw trees we think we are related to to post results or take tests, we would all solve a large mystery - as there is always more for the next generation to dig up - lol Regards Sherri

Two male descendants of the Shaw line beginning with Angus Shaw on the Isle of Jura are wanting to participate in the Shaw DNA test. Can anyone recommend a site? How expensive it it? What test do you recommend? 1. Angus Shaw and Dushee unknown. Isle of Jura, Scotland (Angus born about 1690) 2. Colin Shaw and Marion McCraney. Colin, born about 1720, emigrated about 1744 to Cumberland County, NC. (McCraneys were also from Isle of Jura Scotland - Marion was a daughter of Murdock McCraney) 3. John Shaw and Frances Faison. (Faisons were from France) 4. Washington Irving Shaw and Mary Graham Robinson. Irving and his wife are buried in Sampson County, NC (Robinsons were from Isle of Arran, Scotland) 5. Washington Irving Shaw, Jr. and Margaret R. Enos. (Enos family was from Germany) 6. their two sons, both deceased 7. two male first cousins Billie Shaw Powell, a female descendant

In a message dated 10/16/2007 8:02:53 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bp@peavler.org writes: I'm afraid I don't know anything further about James J. Assuming the children were listed in birth order, he would have been younger than Thomas Jefferson Shaw, so born after 1819, probably in, say, the mid 1820s. No spouse is listed for him. He must not have gone to Texas, because the ones who did are identified (Granville, Thomas J., John G.). These Shaws were in Bedford and Marshall counties, TN, and also in Hardeman County, TN. Thanks, Bev......I've got a JAMES JACKSON SHAW who lived in Halifax/Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He was born about 1832. If you ever come across him, I'd be pleased to know. I believe he married a SALLIE about 1858. Best wishes....mary lou ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 10/16/2007 2:59:06 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bp@peavler.org writes: Children of James and Mary were Sarah (my 3-g grandmother), Richard, Theophilus, Areander, Benjamin, Granville, Thomas J., Nancy, James J., and John G. Again according to Thomas J. Shaw, James fought in the War of 1812. Hi Beverly.....do you know anymore about the son JAMES J.? Could his middle name have been JACKSON? mary lou ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

So many Shaws... On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Mlou1173@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/16/2007 8:02:53 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > bp@peavler.org writes: > > I'm afraid I don't know anything further about James J. Assuming the > children were listed in birth order, he would have been younger than > Thomas Jefferson Shaw, so born after 1819, probably in, say, the mid > 1820s. No spouse is listed for him. He must not have gone to Texas, > because the ones who did are identified (Granville, Thomas J., John > G.). These Shaws were in Bedford and Marshall counties, TN, and also > in Hardeman County, TN. > > > > Thanks, Bev......I've got a JAMES JACKSON SHAW who lived in > Halifax/Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He was born about 1832. > If you ever come across > him, I'd be pleased to know. I believe he married a SALLIE about > 1858. > > Best wishes....mary lou > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Beverly Peavler bp@peavler.org

Numerous Shaw Cousins, I did not expect quite the response my previous e-mail/ posting today created wrt Y-DNA Testing. It was quite gratifying to see several postings from other Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi Shaws including some new participants. Rather than attempting to answer a number of you individually since I depart on travel early in the morning, I've attached the cut-down version of our MS Shaw Family line as we know it below - there are at least 3 distinct groups of Shaws in Mississippi. We hope the Y-DNA results will help resolve several different but possibly related Shaw lines in early TN and Colonial VA. Apparently, we've already discovered a Miller who married into the Wyley family living next to several Shaws prior to 1800 is probably a Shaw by all indications, another reason for the 67 marker DNA Test since the 25 marker test is not conclusive. Hope this helps answer a few questions for some of you and any info welcome. Perhaps the DNA testing will pay off. Thanks. Chuck Shaw COL. Charles Houston Shaw, III, CPL (US Army, Retired) 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop Lake Manassas Gainesville, VA 20155 Home: 703-753-0549 theshawclan@comcast.net Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL Vice President METRON, Incorporated 11911 Freedom Drive Tower One, Suite 800 Reston, VA 20910 Work: 703-787-8700, x474 Mobile: 703-835-4553 shaw@metsci.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. William or John Shaw, PVTs in the Virginia Militia during the French and Indian War under Captain Talbot and others, later PVTs in the Virginia and North Carolina Volunteer Militias: Majority of evidence points to either William or John Shaw born about 1733/ 35 to John Shaw in Augusta County, VA (Probably one of several John and William Shaws who migrated from Ulster via Pennsylvania with the Irvives/ House of Drum, Wyleys, Crawfords, Millers, etc. or possibly John Shaw and Elizabeth Jenkins of Charles County, MD - still not verified). These Shaws and extended family ended up in Augusta County, the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, which became Botetourt, Bedford, Lunenberg, etc. counties migrating to Halifax County, Virginia as well as Orange/ Caswell and Wake/ Durham Counties, North Carolina by 1760. Our oral history also indicates they were Borderer Scots allied to the Irvines of Bonshaw, Johnstones, Wyleys, and Crawfords originally from Dumfriesshire. However, they were also seafarers who left those lands in the 16th Century with the Irvines/ Sons of Drum to go to Antrim as well as many of the Western Isles often running from the English, etc. and hiding for some time on the remote Hebrides and Isle of Jura. They eventually migrated to PA and through VA or MD from County Antrim shortly after the turn of the 18th Century. They were then and our family remains devout Presbyterians. They fought on both sides of the Regulator Uprising in NC, 1768-1771. Captain Robert B. Schaw was a militia commander supporting the crown at the Battle of Alamance while several other Shaws, Wyleys, Spivas, Merrills, etc. were all Regulators. I am a direct descendant of Sgt James Wyley who died of wounds received in this conflict/ pneumonia and Captain Benjamin Merrill who was hung, drawn, and quartered by Royal Governor Tryon in 1771. Children: I. Robert B. Shaw II. Dorcas Shaw III. William Shaw born before 1759 in VA and died TBD. William Shaw fought with the NC Militia during the Revolutionary War and married Jennat "Jennie" McCorkle in NC (later TN) following the war. They had multiple children including a son, William Baptist Shaw, who was born on 24 March 1801 in the Chester District of South Carolina. Jennie was the daughter of Stephen McCorkle and Mary Patterson of North and South Carolina. IV. James Shaw, M, born about 1760/61 in then Orange County, now Caswell County, NC and died about 1807 in Chester County, SC. Likely married to Mary A. Pendergrast who was born about 1762 in NC also and died 26 July 1816 in Chester County, SC. James and Mary were married on 9 January 1786 in Caswell County, NC prior to moving to TN and then SC. V. John Shaw, M, born about 1763 in Orange County, now Caswell County, NC. John Henry Shaw migrated to TN, SC, GA, and AL and supposedly died about 1827 in either Morgan County, GA or Shelby County, AL. Married on 11 August 1788 to Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin who was born about 1765 in Halifax County, VA and died 1853 in Choctaw County, MS. VI. Elizabeth Shaw born about 1765 in then Orange County, now Caswell County, NC. Guilford County, North Carolina Court Records Euta page 345 in Nov. 1793 William Shaw's Will dated September 1793, probate November 1793 In the Name of God Amen - I, William Shaw; being weak in body but sound in memory thanks be to God for it & Calling to Mind that its appointed for Man Once to die, And after that the resurrection. I do Make this my Last will and testment, To Viz, First that I allow my body to be buried in a desent manner at the discretion of My Execitors Nothing Doubting but I Shall Receiv the same at the Resurrection at the Last day ---- First I allow all my just & Lawful Debts to be paid. I, the aforesaid William Shaw do leave My two beloved Brothers (that is Joseph Ross & Benjamin) all my clothes to be Equally divided between them, also my Beloved Mother & my two young sisters Jean Ross & Susana they are to be three pounds to be equally divided among them; the rest of My Estate is to be Equally divided Between my two older Sisters (That is Sarah Shaw & Grizzald and Grizzald youngest boy named Thomas Ross those three is to have equal shares --- I always appoint Thomas Wyley and Robert Shaw to Execute this My Last will and testment -- This Ninth Day of September 1793 s/ Wm. Shaw Witness in the presents of: William Matthews; Jurat NOTE: The Shaw and Wyley families of North Carolina and their descendant's have been closely related to the Irvine/ Irwin, Crawford, Johnston, Miller, Spiva, Gaston, Youngblood, Adams, McClure, etc. families for generations from Virginia to NC/ TN, SC/ GA, AL, & MS. State of North Carolina, Guilford County - November Court 1793 William Matthews approved the within will on Motion admitted to record. Test: John Hamilton The last will & Testament of William Shaw Des. was proven in open Court and on Motion let it be recorded then came in Thomas Wiley & Robert Shaw, Esqrs. in said will appointed and Qualified as such agreeable to law - the will was proven by the oath of William Matthews a subscribing witness thereto. NOTE: This will was also originally executed and filed in Edgefield county, SC where William Shaw died and is buried. Guilford County, North Carolina, C.046.3001 Court Minutes Vol. III, p. 10, 1797 Alexander Gray Esqr. & Sampson Powel are appointed a Committee to Settle the Estate of William Shaw Dec'd. with the Exrs. of the same Estate & make report the next Court . 2. John Henry Shaw, PVT in the North Carolina Militia during the Revolutionary War, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ Creek Indian Wars, Captain in the Georgia and Alabama Volunteer Militia: John Henry Shaw was born in 1763 to William Shaw (some think possibly John or Joseph Shaw ) in then Orange and now Caswell County, NC near the Halifax County, VA line. John Henry Shaw was also known as "Papa John Henry" and supposedly died in Shelby County, AL about 1827. His gravesite cannot be located. John Shaw fought multiple tours in the NC militia as a Mounted Rifleman during the Revolutionary War from Camden/ the Southern Campaign through Yorktown, serving under Colonel William Washington of Virginia and General Francis Marion. John Henry Shaw married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin on 11 August 1788 in Washington County, TN which was previously part NC. Mama Mary Margaret was born about 1765 in Halifax County, VA and died about 1853 in Winston County, MS. She is believed to be the daughter of either James, Joseph, or William Irvine - brothers from Southside Virginia. Mama Mary Margaret is buried in the Old Shaw-Crawford Cemetery, often called Blackwood Cemetery, in the Choctaw National Forest (CNF), Choctaw County, MS near the Shaw family as well as long time friends/ in-laws Peter and Elizabeth Crawford. John Henry Shaw and several of his sons/ nephews are credited with exploring the Tennessee Valley Divide and Mississippi Territory (now Alabama) prior to the War of 1812 and discovering/ blazing the Genery's Gap of North-Central Alabama prior to the War of 1812. Children: I. Joseph J. Shaw, M, born during September 1789 in Washington County NC/ TN and died before1860 in Oktibbeha County, MS. Daddy Joe Shaw may be the eldest son or a nephew. II. William W. Shaw, M, born 6 February 1792 in Chester County, SC and died 17 November 1850 in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka Colonel William Washington Shaw) III. James W. Shaw b. 21 May 1794 in SC (aka Big Jim or Captain James Washington Shaw) IV. Pleasant Shaw b. 1796/7 in SC V. John B. H. Shaw b. 5 October 1798 in SC VI. William Wiley Shaw b. 20 January 1800 in SC VII. Almeron Marmaduke Shaw b. 1801/2 in SC VIII. Hamitt or Hammett Shaw b. 1803/4 in SC and died about 1868 in Winston County, MS. Donated the land for and buried at Bethel Methodist Church in Winston County, MS. IX. Elizabeth Shaw b. 1805/6 in SC X. Alexander or Sanders/ Sandy Shaw b. 1807/08 in SC XI. Edney Shaw (?) probably daughter-in-law XII. Archibald Shaw b. 1810/11 in SC (?) May be a son or nephew. XIII. William S. Shaw b. 1812 in SC (?) and died about 1878 in Oktibbeha County, MS (aka William Spivey Shaw) May be a son or nephew who served in the Regular Army during the Seminole and Mexican Wars. Several other sons are often credited to Papa John and Mama Mary since they helped raise their orphaned nephews/ nieces, children of James Shaw, in SC and AL who migrated with them. 3. James Washington Shaw, Private in the US Volunteers during the War of 1812/ Creek Indian Wars, Captain in the Alabama Volunteer Militia, County Supervisor and Commissioner in Alabama and Mississippi: James Washington "Big Jim" Shaw was born 21 May 1794 to John Henry Shaw and Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine/ Ervin Shaw in the Chester District of South Carolina. He died near Shaw Springs, MS on 9 August 1875 and is buried next to wife Jane at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS on MS Hwy 12 East. James served as a Private in the Militia Scout/ Rangers against the British Kempers and Creek Indians during latter stages of the War of 1812. He was also a Sergeant of Scouts under his father and Major Sam Dale against the Creeks during the first two Indian Wars in Alabama. Jim along with his father, brothers, and pioneers such as Sam and Jim Dale, Thomas and Peter Malone, as well as John Amory/ Emory traded with numerous Indian tribes and scouted most of the Alabama Territory. Jim and his brothers along with other comrades in arms subsequently occupied lands in Shelby and Jefferson Counties of Alabama even before the Treaty of Fort Jackson. Many returned to South Carolina and Georgia to marry in 1818 and 1819 and immediately brought their brides and families to the rich Cahaba Valley of Alabama, near present day Birmingham. The first confirmed record of Jim Shaw in Shelby County, Alabama is on the January Term, County Court, in 1819. Jim Shaw subsequently became a Supervisor in Shelby County from 1819-1823 and later a Commissioner for Shelby County from 1823-1825. He was relieved of his Commissioner duties in 1825 due to his failure to act/ absence while serving with the Alabama Militia scouting the Great Tennessee Road, Great Military Road/ Noxubee Trail, and Choctaw land. James and William Shaw had some role supporting Thomas Malone as Assistant Indian Agent for the U.S. Government during negotiation of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek in the Choctaw Cede, now Noxubee County, MS, in 1830. Joseph J. "Daddy Joe" Shaw occupied land in Oktibbeha County, MS; COL. William Washington Shaw purchased and occupied choice land obtained from the Malone Family in Winston County, MS; CPT. James Washington Shaw purchased tracts of land in Choctaw and Oktibbeha Counties of MS; and Samuel Houston Shaw purchased large tracts of land in Noxubee County, MS. These farms are actually in close proximity to one another near the intersection of the county lines along Shaw Road. Jim Shaw moved his family from Alabama to the Choctaw/ Oktibbeha County, MS line in either 1833 or early 1834. Jim Shaw married Jane "Jenny" Bagwell, born 19 February 1799 to Frederick Bagwell, Sr and Mary "Polly" Hill in the Chester District of South Carolina. She died near Shaw Springs, MS on 27 September 1875 and is buried next to James at the Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS on MS Hwy 12 East. Children: I. Jane Shaw, F, born before 1824 in Shelby County, AL II. Elizabeth Elvira Shaw, F, born in 1824 in Shelby County, AL III. Mary Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, AL IV. Nancy Shaw, F, born before 1829 in Shelby County, AL V. James Emory "Blind Jim" Shaw, M, born 1829 in Shelby County, AL and turned blind as a child. He died in Oktibbeha County, MS about 1905. Buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery. VI. William Jasper Newton "Jack" Shaw, M, born 1830 in Shelby County, AL and buried with Jim and Jenny at Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery. VII. Angeline Shaw, F, born 1832 in Shelby County, AL VIII. John David Carson Shaw, M, born 1833 in Shelby County, AL IX. John Benjamin Franklin "Johnny Frank" Shaw, M, born 1835 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown X. John Baptist Martin Shaw, M, born 1837 in Choctaw County, MS and died ??, buried in Shaw-Crawford, now Blackwood, Cemetery XI. R. Austin Washington Shaw, M, born 1838/ 39 in Choctaw County, MS and died ??. XII. Samuel Houghston Shaw, born 1841 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1900 at Fentress in Choctaw County, MS 4. Samuel Houghston Shaw, 4th SGT Confederate States of America (CSA) Army and County Supervisor: Samuel Houghston "Hugh" Shaw was born in 1841 to James W. "Big Jim" Shaw and Jane "Jenny" Bagwell Shaw in Choctaw County, MS. He was named after other family members (possibly an Uncle) as well as both the Reverand Sam Houston, uncle of Governor/ General Sam Houston of NC and TN, and the General who both his father and grandfather had served under in the militia. Hugh served first as a Private and later Sergeant in Company K, "The Choctaw Greys", of the 15th Mississippi Infantry Regiment from 19 September 1861 until July 1863 when part of the unit surrendered and/ or was captured during the retreat from Vicksburg. Hugh Shaw was fortunate enough to evade capture, escape, or be repatriated in a prisoner swap in 1863 and returned to duty as a 4th Sergeant in Company K of the Composite 15th Mississippi Infantry Regiment from the Fall of 1863 until 28 April 1865 when the unit surrendered as part of General Joe Johnston's Army at Greensboro, North Carolina. Hugh had an extensive service record and was wounded multiple times in some of the worst fighting at Shiloh, Vicksburg, Atlanta, Chattanooga, and Franklin. Later, Hugh served as a Supervisor for the Fentress District of Choctaw County, MS from 1876-1884. Hugh Shaw died in 1899 and is buried at the Bethlehem Baptist Church between Ackerman and Sturgis, MS. Children: I. Eliza Jane Shaw, F, born 1866/ 67 in Choctaw County, MS. She married a Bradford (?), moved to Texas before 1905, and died unknown (named after both grandmothers). II. Thomas Washington Shaw, M, born 1868 in Choctaw County, MS, see below (named after both grandfathers, see below). III. James Ervin Shaw, M, born 1870/ 71 in Choctaw County, MS, died before 1900 (named after paternal greatgrandfathers). His widow and children also moved to Texas before 1905. IV. William Francis (?/ some family say Franklin instead) Shaw, M, born 1872 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown (named after mix?). V. Samuel Thomas Shaw, M, born 1874 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown. (named after maternal greatgrandfathers). VI. Charmie Bertha Shaw, F, born 1876 in Choctaw County, MS and died unknown (named after Unknown). 5. Thomas Washington Shaw: Thomas Washington Shaw was born on 14 November 1868 at Fentress, East of Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. Tom was the eldest son of Samuel Houghston "Hugh" Shaw and Olivia Margaret "Dollie or Olley" Fulcher Shaw. He was named after his grandfathers: Thomas Dillon Fulcher and James Washington Shaw. Tom married Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone on 3 July 1891 in Fentress, MS. He married Addie Irene Childress, 23 years his junior, on 24 December 1914 following Mary's death in 1913. Tom died on 27 November 1920 of a heart attack on the Main Street of Ackerman in Choctaw County, MS. Tom is buried at Enon Cumberland Presbyterian Church, just Northeast of Ackerman, in Choctaw County, MS. Children: I. Ella Jane Shaw, F, born on 8 Mar 1892 in Choctaw County, MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? II. Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr , M, born 22 October 1894 in Choctaw County, MS and died 19 June 1969 in Winston County, MS (see below) III. Bertha M. Shaw, F, born Jan 1897 in Choctaw County, MS and died unk, married? Yellow Fever? IV. William Jasper "Jack" Newton Shaw, M, born Oct 1899 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1975 in Atlanta, GA. Married ? V. Unk Infant, F., born in 1900/ 01, died? VI. James Thomas "Jim-Tom" Shaw, M, born 1903 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1984 in Shreveport, LA. Married a Haimes. VII. Mary Emma Shaw, F, born 1905 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1997 in Choctaw County, MS. Married Elmer Wylie. VIII. John Henry F. Shaw, M, born 1907 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1932 in Winston County, MS, Married ? IX. Unk infant, M, born in 1909, died? X. Ruth Geniveve "Geneva" Shaw, F, born 1911 in Choctaw County, MS and died 1998 in Harlen County, KY. Married James Weeks. XI. Unk Infant, ?, died at birth on 10 August 1913. XII. Lucy Ellen Shaw, F, born on 10 Feb 1915 in Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS XIII. Olivia "Ollie" Frances Shaw, F, born on 15 Feb 1916 in Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS XIV. EIla Pearl Shaw, F, born on 4 Jan 1919 in Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS XV. Tommie Lee Shaw, F, born on 30 Sep 1920 in Ackerman, Choctaw County, MS 6. Charles Huston Shaw, Sr, Fireman First Class (F1C)/ Chief Water Tender (CWT), US Navy: Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw, Sr. was born 22 October 1894 in Ackerman, MS which is the county seat for Choctaw County, MS. Charlie was the eldest son of Thomas Washington "Tom" Shaw and Martha "Mary" Almeda Malone who lived near Fentress in Choctaw County, MS. He is named after his grandfathers, Charles Spiva Malone and Samuel Houghston Shaw. Charlie served in the US Navy during WWI on four different ships including the battleship USS Oklahoma and Heavy Battle Cruiser Kearsarge for training and escort duty as well as Fireman First Class and Chief Water Tender on two Cargo/ Transport Ships, the USS Susquehanna and USS Alaskan. He was nominated for the Distinguished Service Cross (DSC-Navy) and received two awards of the Distinguished Service Medal (DSM) for multiple actions on two different ships. Charlie was injured, badly burned, and partially disabled while saving the USS Susquehanna in January 1918. Charlie returned to France in 1919 in order to receive a Croix de Guerre and his admission as a Knight or Chevalier Legionne d'Honneur (Legion of Honor) from the government of France based on his service in WWI as well. The US Navy named Liberty Ship USNS 3117, "The Charles H. Shaw", after he and another named merchantman during WWII which was launched at the end of the war in 1945. Charlie married Lucy Merrow "Moira or Myra" Wylie, daughter of Addison Youngblood Wylie and Cordelia Chancellor on 25 July 1925. Charlie died on 26 June 1969 at Louisville in Winston County, MS. He is buried at New Hope Methodist Church on Hwy 14 East in Winston County, MS. Children: I. PFC (Samuel) Thomas Addison Shaw, M, born 30 Mar 1926 in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 5 Mar 1992 in Jackson, Hinds County, MS. Thomas is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, MS. II. SGT Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, M, born 01 May 1927 in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS and died 22 Aug 1992 in Meridian, Lauderdale County, MS. Junior is buried in the new Philadelphia, MS Municipal Cemetery (See Below). III. Charmie Iree Shaw, F, born 23 Jan 1929 in Shaw Springs, Winston County, MS, and died on 2 July 1995 in Louisville, Winston County, MS. CIS is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, MS next to Diane and Thomas. IV. Paul Jean/ Gene Shaw, M, born 13 Oct 1942 in Louisville, Winston County, MS and died 9 May 1999 in Pass Christian, MS. Cremated. V. Patricia Dianne Shaw, F, born 21 Apr 1947 in Louisville, Winston County, MS and died 28 July 1973 in Memphis, Shelby County, TN. Dianne is buried in New Hope Methodist Church Cemetery on Hwy 14 East, Winston County, MS next to CIS and Thomas. Numerous other sons/ daughters, 13 children total. 7. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr, SGT, US Army: Charles Houston "Junior" Shaw was born 01 May 1927 at Shaw Springs, MS. He was the second son of Charles Huston "Charlie" Shaw and Lucy Merrow "Moira" Wylie of Shaw Springs and Gum Branch in Winston County, MS. He is named after his father/ greatgrandfathers. Charles "Junior" is descended from John Henry Shaw, Frederick Bagwell, Drury Malone, and James Wyley with relations to these same Shaws, Bagwells, Malones, and Wyleys back to VA and NC. Charles or "Junior" served 2 tours, over 7 years, in the US Army including active duty and reserves before, during, and after the Korean War. Junior served in the US Army as an Artilleryman during the Korean War in the Military District of Washington. He married Delilah Ann "Nell" Hunt, daughter of Floyd Wesley Hunt and Mamie Jane Dempsey, on 22 January 1955. They moved to Philadelphia in Neshoba County, MS in 1957. Charles also served 28 years as a Mississippi State Highway Patrolman there. They had three children who are still living today. Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. died on 20 August 1992 in Meridian, Lauderdale County, MS. He is buried at the Philadelphia Municipal Cemetery in Neshoba County, MS where he made his home. Children: Charles Houston Shaw, III and two others. 8. Charles Houston Shaw, III, Colonel, US Army (Retired): Charles Houston Shaw, III, was born 07 October 1957 in Louisville, Winston County, MS. He is the eldest son of Charles Houston Shaw, Jr. and Delilah Ann Hunt of Shaw Springs and Edgefield in Winston County, MS respectively. He is named after his father/ grandfather/ greatgrandfathers, married Maria Elena Almanza, 5 children and 9 grandchildren. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nance" <nance7@embarqmail.com> To: "Charles and Maria Shaw" <theshawclan@comcast.net>; <shaw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project >I have many Shaw's in Harpersville, Shelby Co, AL. Mostly children of Hugh L > Shaw and Annie Catherine Lybrand. Are these kin to yours? According to my > records, mostly from Elaine Hendricks - God be good to her, Hugh H is the > son of Hugh and Elizabeth Finley, or maybe Hugh Jr and Elizabeth Finley? > > nance (my first post to this site) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles and Maria Shaw" <theshawclan@comcast.net> > To: <dmcshaw@hughes.net> > Cc: <shaw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project > > >> Denise, >> >> I just submitted a Y-DNA 67 sample to Family Tree last week and expect >> the results to be posted by the end on the month. We have several of our >> related lines back 13 generations and our Shaw line definitely goes back >> to the 1750-60s in NC. I am originally from Mississippi with numerous >> relatives in MS, AL, AR, and TX. This Shaw family line goes back through >> AL, some GA and others SC, TN/ NC, and VA or MD. Our oral history also >> indicates migrating through VA or MD from Ulster (County Antrim) after >> arrival in PA. >> >> Our Shaw family were allied to and inter-married with the Wyley/ Wylly, >> Irwin/ Irvine, Miller, Bagwell, Jones, Spiva/ Spivey, Malone and other >> Orange families back to Old Augusta - now Botetourt and Bedford Counties >> of VA. I have at least a dozen family lines that were in Old Augusta >> County, VA by 1735 and later Old Orange County, NC which later split into >> Caswell/ Persons and Wake/ Durham Counties of NC. They all ended up in >> Old Washington County, NC (later became TN) following the Revolution. >> John Henry Shaw was born on the VA and NC line (Caswell County) in 1763. >> Papa John married Mary Margaret Irwin/ Irvine in Washington County, TN on >> 11 August 1788 in the area later identified as Cherokee lands in 1790. >> Consequently, Papa John and Mama Mary moved several times ending up in >> Shelby County, AL by 1818 where he died. Mama Mary came to MS with her >> family in 1834 and died in 1853. I am descended from their son, Captain >> James Washington Shaw, who was an original set! >> tler in the Choctaw Cede of MS during 1833. >> >> Concerning DNA Testing, I've been looking at this for some time and >> studying the mutation rates for many markers - all vary at different >> rates. In order to get back to the Colonial Era of interest with any >> degree of accurracy, the 25 marker test is probably not sufficient and >> even the 37 marker test is only marginal for a HaploGroup. I ordered the >> new Y-DNA 67 marker test for this reason. I'll let you know when the >> sample is posted. Thanks for all your efforts. >> >> >> >> Chuck Shaw >> >> Charles and Maria Shaw >> 15934 Spyglass Hill Loop >> Lake Manassas >> Gainesville, VA 20155 >> E-mail: theshawclan@comcast.net >> Home: 703-753-0549 >> Cell: 703-408-7319 >> >> Charles H. Shaw, III, CPL >> Vice President >> METRON, Incorporated >> 11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 800 >> Reston, VA 20190 >> E-mail: shaw@metsci.com >> Office: 703-787-8700, x474 >> Mobile: 703-835-4553 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Denise Shaw" <dmcshaw@hughes.net> >> To: <shaw@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:23 PM >> Subject: [SHAW] Seeking Participants for the Shaw DNA / Surname Project >> >> >>> The Shaw line originating from the Prince George's County and Charles >>> County, Maryland area is looking for paternal male Shaw descendants to >>> participate in the DNA Shaw Surname project. We are trying to establish >>> proof of lineage for the William and Priscilla Shaw line from southern >>> Maryland. Recently, two Shaw descendants submitted DNA for testing, one >>> from >>> Charles County, MD and one from CA. DNA testing confirmed that they are >>> "cousins," descending from William and Priscilla, through their sons, >>> Luke >>> Lewis Shaw and William S. Shaw. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is believed that William Shaw was born abt 1767 in Maryland and he >>> died >>> about 1821-1822 in Charles County, MD. He married Priscilla (MNU) abt >>> 1785 >>> in Maryland. Priscilla was born abt 1760 in Maryland and died abt 1833 in >>> Nicholas County, KY. After William's death, Priscilla Shaw moved from >>> Charles County, MD, to Nicholas County, KY, to join her son, Luke Lewis >>> Shaw >>> (1796-1878), who was already living in KY by 1815. Priscilla took the >>> four >>> youngest children with her to KY, namely John Anderson Shaw (abt >>> 1806-1881), >>> James Shaw (abt 1810-?), Ann Shaw (abt 1805-1874), and Matilda Shaw (abt >>> 1808-?). It appears the four oldest Shaw children, Sarah (1786-?), Joseph >>> (1786-1865) (twin to Sarah), Samuel (1791-?) and William S. Shaw >>> (1793-1862) >>> stayed behind in Maryland. Joseph Shaw eventually moved to the KY/IN >>> areas, >>> as he died in Ripley County, Indiana in 1865. >>> >>> >>> >>> If we can get more people to participate in the Shaw Surname DNA project, >>> we >>> are hoping to one day find a match even further back than William and >>> Priscilla Shaw, perhaps back to our original presumed ancestry from >>> England, >>> Ireland or Scotland. To accomplish this, we need as many male Shaw >>> descendants as possible who descend from the paternal Shaw side to >>> participate in the DNA matching project. For more information, please go >>> to >>> the Shaw DNA Project page at: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/s/shaw/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Once there, you can learn about how DNA testing works, etc. You can click >>> on >>> the "Recruitment" link to learn how to participate. The "Results" link >>> shows >>> the Shaw line participants and matches to date. There is also a >>> "patriarchs" >>> page for posting family trees. If you decide to participate, you will >>> order >>> your DNA test kit directly from the project. >>> >>> >>> >>> The cost per participant is dependent on the number of markers tested, >>> but >>> all tests include an estimate of the Haplogroup (an indication of deep >>> ancestry). It is recommended that you test the largest number of markers >>> that you can afford, however, there is a basic 12 marker test available. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is important for as many Shaw descendants to participate as possible. >>> However, if you believe you are descended from or connected to this >>> specific >>> southern Maryland Shaw line, and you absolutely cannot afford the cost of >>> testing, we have a few Shaw descendants who are willing to assist in >>> paying >>> some of the costs of the testing. If you would like to request financial >>> assistance or sponsorship for DNA testing, please make a request to me, >>> and >>> provide information on your southern Maryland Shaw family connection. >>> Requests for testing sponsorship will be reviewed and considered on a >>> case-by-case basis, and is dependent upon the number of requests we >>> receive, >>> as we have a limited amount of sponsorship monies available. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you wish to contribute to the Shaw grant/sponsorship program to help >>> promote Shaw DNA testing, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please consider participating, and please pass this information along to >>> other Shaw relatives who might be interested. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Denise Shaw >>> >>> dmcshaw@hughes.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

I'm afraid I don't know anything further about James J. Assuming the children were listed in birth order, he would have been younger than Thomas Jefferson Shaw, so born after 1819, probably in, say, the mid 1820s. No spouse is listed for him. He must not have gone to Texas, because the ones who did are identified (Granville, Thomas J., John G.). These Shaws were in Bedford and Marshall counties, TN, and also in Hardeman County, TN. On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:53 PM, Mlou1173@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/16/2007 2:59:06 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > bp@peavler.org writes: > > Children of James and Mary were Sarah (my 3-g grandmother), > Richard, Theophilus, Areander, Benjamin, Granville, Thomas J., Nancy, > James J., and John G. Again according to Thomas J. Shaw, James fought > in the War of 1812. > > > Hi Beverly.....do you know anymore about the son JAMES J.? Could > his > middle name have been JACKSON? > > mary lou > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Beverly Peavler bp@peavler.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Delilah36 Surnames: Shaw/Bates/ Dunn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6705/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for any information about a Jerry Shaw who married Ethel Lillian "Lillie" Bates-Dunn (b 1893 MO died 1932 IN.)They married about 1914. They probably lived in Missouri or Kansas. She had a little boy by her first marriage to John Dunn. Lillie is my grandmother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.