This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margot_McBath Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mary Lou, I just received their marriage license, and it only listed the name of the bride and groom, their ages and place of residences. Margot Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi....have you tried to obtain her marriage license? That should have her parents on it. Try the usgenweb site for the county in Illinois in which she was married. mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margot_McBath Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mary Lou, Thanks, I had found the 1870 census. I believe my great-grandmother Effie Asbury, William and Elizabeth's youngest, was adopted by Albon and Tirzah Chase on or about December 7, 1870 in Union, WI. I am really trying to find Elizabeth's parents and her siblings. Thanks for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margot_McBath Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Unfortunately, I do not know the names of Elizabeth's parents or any siblings she had. All I know is who she married and her kids. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again, Margot.....sorry, I should have said 1863 is when Isaac was born....so she probably died earlier than I thought originally. mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Margot.....well, I can narrow it down to about 1867 for you....here is the census information for the 1860 census: Liberty, Grant County, Wisconsin William H. Asbury - age 30 - b. Virginia - farmer Elizabeth Asbury - age 25 - b. Illinois Alfred Asbury - age 10 - b. Wisconsin Henry W. Asbury - age 8 - b. Wisconsin Joseph Asbury - age 5 - b. Wisconsin Angeline Asbury - age 3 - b. Wisconsin Noah Asbury - age 1 - b. Wisconsin In 1870 they lived in Genoa, Vernon County, Wisconsin...Elizabeth and Noah are gone, and there is Isaac, age 7. Isaac was therefore born about 1867. Here is the Grant county usgenweb page that offers lookups for various events. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigrant/ And in the event she and Noah died in Vernon County: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/ Hopefully you can find their deaths. Best wishes.......mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peeshaw Surnames: Shaw Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What was her father's name and any brother's she may of had ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margot_McBath Surnames: Shaw, Asbury Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6713/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking information on my 2nd great-grandmother Elizabeth Shaw. Specifically looking for her deate of death and parents' names. Elizabeth was born March 29, 1834 in Galena, Jo Daviess, IL. On August 7, 1849 she married William Henry Asbury. They had at least seven children: Alfred, William, Joseph, Angeline, Alexander, Isaac, and Effie. Elizabeth passed away shortly after her last child's birth. Thanks! Margot McBath Dudewicz, margotmdudewicz@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sandra, The 37 marker test is generally the minimum accepted # of markers to prove a relationship, 36 or 37 of 37 markers, with high probability at 35 of 37 markers and obtain your HaploGroup, etc.. You can pay $189 just for that test. This is a good option for many folks to start at no cost as I stated in my original e-mail, "take the 37 Marker Y-DNA test for free from SMGF and then post their sample numbers from that site to FTDNA where we can conduct more detailed genealogy discussions and other testing for SNPs, 67 Marker Y-DNA, Mt-DNA, etc. since SMGF doesn't send all of the other data and proposed Haplos to you, but it is accessible on-line with pedigrees." In many cases folks will be able to establish alot of realtionships, easily, with the 37 Marker test and pedigrees which you can see on-line at SMGF. I've been looking at many of their Surname and HaploGroups for the past week. Others will want to examine relationships in more detail with the 67 Marker Test, SNP test, etc.. SMGF and FTDNA among others make even more money off of the follow-on and Mt-DNA testing, etc.. You do have to set up the basic 37 Marker Y-DNA test for the male members of your line. Anyone can use the forms of Mt-DNA for maternal lines as I understand it but those are expensive and take time. I started with the 67 Marker Test and just ordered SNP testting for HaploGroup E3b1 when I received the first results last night. It turns out our line has some of the rarest DNA in Scotland. One HaploGroup with 10 distinct SNPs isolated in several regions of the world which makes it easier to trace - if folks participate. Hope this helps. Chuck Shaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Long" <sanjlong@tds.net> To: <shaw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [SHAW] ATTENTION SHAW FAMILIES: Federal Grant Money for FreeY-DNATesting >I went to the site and checked it out.. It said that you will not receive > any results back from the Test.. If that is so how does this work.. since I > am female do I have to set the account up in the Male's name that I convince > to participate in this ... If I want to see results then do we have to pay > for those.. I searched the site over and could not find any explanation.... > If I could get several family males to participate could we test for several > surnames... I know it said free kits but what about the results. It is also > just the 37 marker test. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise Shaw" <dmcshaw@hughes.net> > To: <MDCHARLE@rootsweb.com>; <SHAW@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:34 PM > Subject: [SHAW] ATTENTION SHAW FAMILIES: Federal Grant Money for Free > Y-DNATesting > > >> On behalf of Chuck Shaw, Gainesville, VA, the following information is >> being >> passed on in hopes of getting as many Shaw descendants as possible to >> participate in free DNA testing for genealogy research: >> >> >> >> The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) has received Federal >> Grant money to provide Y-DNA Testing free of charge to participants. This >> is >> actually the 37 Marker Y-DNA test considered the minimum number of markers >> to obtain subclades and differentiate distinct family groups/lines. Go to >> their website at www.SMGF.org to sign up for an account and for a free DNA >> test kit. >> >> >> >> Also of interest, since Shaw is predominantly Borderer Scots with >> extensions >> to the Highlands, Ireland/Ulster, and England/Yorkshire, and normally >> Haplotype R1b, it is one of the most common types/groups observed and easy >> to have false mappings between families. I'd suggest we get everyone >> possible to take the 37 Marker Y-DNA test for free from SMGF and then post >> their sample numbers from that site to FTDNA where we can conduct more >> detailed genealogy discussions and other testing for SNPs, 67 Marker >> Y-DNA, >> Mt-DNA, etc. SMGF doesn't send all of the other data and proposed Haplos >> to >> you, but it is accessible on-line with pedigrees. >> >> >> >> This would help get as many Shaws tested at 37 Markers as possible, which >> would then allow other sponsorship of additional testing for 67 Markers, >> SNPs, research, etc. >> >> >> >> Please consider taking advantage of this offer of free Y-DNA testing to >> help >> prove your Shaw ancestry. >> >> >> >> Denise Shaw >> >> dmcshaw@hughes.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: >> 11/18/2007 5:15 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I went to the site and checked it out.. It said that you will not receive any results back from the Test.. If that is so how does this work.. since I am female do I have to set the account up in the Male's name that I convince to participate in this ... If I want to see results then do we have to pay for those.. I searched the site over and could not find any explanation.... If I could get several family males to participate could we test for several surnames... I know it said free kits but what about the results. It is also just the 37 marker test. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Shaw" <dmcshaw@hughes.net> To: <MDCHARLE@rootsweb.com>; <SHAW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: [SHAW] ATTENTION SHAW FAMILIES: Federal Grant Money for Free Y-DNATesting > On behalf of Chuck Shaw, Gainesville, VA, the following information is > being > passed on in hopes of getting as many Shaw descendants as possible to > participate in free DNA testing for genealogy research: > > > > The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) has received Federal > Grant money to provide Y-DNA Testing free of charge to participants. This > is > actually the 37 Marker Y-DNA test considered the minimum number of markers > to obtain subclades and differentiate distinct family groups/lines. Go to > their website at www.SMGF.org to sign up for an account and for a free DNA > test kit. > > > > Also of interest, since Shaw is predominantly Borderer Scots with > extensions > to the Highlands, Ireland/Ulster, and England/Yorkshire, and normally > Haplotype R1b, it is one of the most common types/groups observed and easy > to have false mappings between families. I'd suggest we get everyone > possible to take the 37 Marker Y-DNA test for free from SMGF and then post > their sample numbers from that site to FTDNA where we can conduct more > detailed genealogy discussions and other testing for SNPs, 67 Marker > Y-DNA, > Mt-DNA, etc. SMGF doesn't send all of the other data and proposed Haplos > to > you, but it is accessible on-line with pedigrees. > > > > This would help get as many Shaws tested at 37 Markers as possible, which > would then allow other sponsorship of additional testing for 67 Markers, > SNPs, research, etc. > > > > Please consider taking advantage of this offer of free Y-DNA testing to > help > prove your Shaw ancestry. > > > > Denise Shaw > > dmcshaw@hughes.net > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SHAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: > 11/18/2007 5:15 PM > >

On behalf of Chuck Shaw, Gainesville, VA, the following information is being passed on in hopes of getting as many Shaw descendants as possible to participate in free DNA testing for genealogy research: The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) has received Federal Grant money to provide Y-DNA Testing free of charge to participants. This is actually the 37 Marker Y-DNA test considered the minimum number of markers to obtain subclades and differentiate distinct family groups/lines. Go to their website at www.SMGF.org to sign up for an account and for a free DNA test kit. Also of interest, since Shaw is predominantly Borderer Scots with extensions to the Highlands, Ireland/Ulster, and England/Yorkshire, and normally Haplotype R1b, it is one of the most common types/groups observed and easy to have false mappings between families. I'd suggest we get everyone possible to take the 37 Marker Y-DNA test for free from SMGF and then post their sample numbers from that site to FTDNA where we can conduct more detailed genealogy discussions and other testing for SNPs, 67 Marker Y-DNA, Mt-DNA, etc. SMGF doesn't send all of the other data and proposed Haplos to you, but it is accessible on-line with pedigrees. This would help get as many Shaws tested at 37 Markers as possible, which would then allow other sponsorship of additional testing for 67 Markers, SNPs, research, etc. Please consider taking advantage of this offer of free Y-DNA testing to help prove your Shaw ancestry. Denise Shaw dmcshaw@hughes.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: contactme158 Surnames: Shaw, Greer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6712/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello, my name is marcus and I am searching for inforamation about a shaw family in Belfast circa 1910. There were about 1000 shaw families in belfast at this time, so I realise this is a long shot!!!! william shaw b.1909 had 2 brothers fawcett and albert (burt) and a sister Jean. Fawcett moved to England (possibly Bedford), Jean moved to London (possibly Croydon), and Burt emmigrated to Canada in the 1950's. William's father was called Samuel b.circa 1880's his wife was called Sarah Ann Greer, they married around 1906/1907. In 1912 they live in a place called Hillview terrace, Greencastle, Co. Antrim. If anyone has any links to this family or knows any more information please send me an email Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Amanda....here are the 1861 and 1871 census entries for Christopher and the 1871 for Hannah....she couldn't be found in 1861: 1861 Ashton, Lancashire, England Thomas Shaw - age 46 Amelia Shaw - age 44 Emma Shaw - age 16 CHRISTOPHER SHAW - age 11 Thirza Shaw - age 9 Maria Shaw - age 20 - lodger 1871 38 England St., Ashton, Lancashire CHRISTOPHER SHAW age 20 - Lodger - Cotton Operative 1871 Census 2 Laurence St., Stockport, Lancashire Hannah Coe - Widow - age 57 b. Duckinfield HANNAH COE - daughter - age 19 b. Staleybridge Mary Coe - daughter - age 17 b. Glossop, Derbyshire Sarah Jane Coe - daughter - age 15 - b. Ashton They were all working in the cotton mill...probably how they met. Stockport and Ashion are 6.1 miles from each other. mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi.....I did find Ernest in the 1910 census....living in Weir with Bessie. Quite an age difference, uh? Cherokee, Cherokee County, Kansas Earnest Shaw - age 59 Bessie M. Shaw - age 28 David C. Shaw - age 7 Leslie M. Shaw - age 6 Hazel K. Shaw - age 2 Mark T. Shaw - age 5 months Try looking in the 1900 census under the spelling "Earnest". mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AmandaSpackman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OOOOOOOP's put to many G's there for Ernest. He's my Great Grandpa. He died when my Dad was only 7. My dad never met his grandparents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AmandaSpackman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I kind of think that they really weren't born in Missouri. I really didn't think about that. Thanks for pointing that out. I really feel that Frank was probably born in Illinois or Iowa. And that Christopher was born in Weir. Most of my Shaw living relatives live in Weir or were born in Weir. All of my G Grandpa & Grandma Shaw's children were born there, my grandpa included. But that hasn't been much help because all of the cousins are just as stumped as I am. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AmandaSpackman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been able to find ALFRED on the 1900 census. He was living in OHIO with his wife Clara and their son Ralph. They were living with her parents. For some reason I've never been able to find Ernest(he's my line, my GGGrandfather). He married Bessie Maude Wilson on Jun 21 1901 at Fort Smith, Sebastian, Arkansas. So I've been checking out Arkansas. And I have no idea what happened to their sister Bertha. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi....I see that Frank and Christopher state they were born in Missouri on the 1910 census...seems odd that between 1880 and 1890 the family moved from Illinois to Missouri to Iowa and that Hannah/Ann died and Christopher,Sr. remarried....that's a lot to pack into a few years! You need to find Christopher Sr.'s death cert. Try looking on the Flager, Iowa website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamarion/ mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLou3358 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shaw/6711.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again.....here is the usgenweb site for Cherokee County in Kansas where the town of Weir is located. I see that they have lookups offered. Perhaps you could ask for the birth of Christopher, Jr. and perhaps Martha's marriage. I think that the "Ana" on the 1880 census may actually be "Hannah" as they were used interchangably in England. I've put out a request for a look at the 1871 census of Ashton to see if Hannah had a sister called Ann and will let you know when I get the information. Have you been able to find the older children in the 1900 census?? http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/cherokee/index.html mary lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.