I did get something with a pif attachment from who I don't know. But, I didn't recognize the extension so, I knew I didn't have anything to open it. I just deleted it. I don't need anything affecting my computer. It's bad enough I've got a head cold. LOL :-/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Oh, you are a luck woman, Viola! Truly, a lucky woman... My Shaws think they came over on the Goodspeed, the 2nd ship after the Mayflower (and even call themsilfs "Enlgish" until they started calling themsilfs "Yankees" -- I would imagine as in New England Yankees...) I found the Shaw closest to me goin' back and bein' from elsewhere as ACTCHERLY originatin' in County Down, Ireland -- sometime after ca. 1850 ['zact date not yet acertained] -- So, Ooops. Guess didn't make enough good speed tryin' to make the last call for the Goodspeed....) He (and many like 'em) always considered 'imself "Scottish" -- actually, he said "Scots" or even "Scotch" as he believed he wuz descended from [what I would call] Cromwell's Northern-Britain hordes -- sent over to "rule" ol' Irelan' by Anglicization linguistic and religious... They still do be folk who'd've been callin' 'im "Scots-Irish" and even others who'd call 'im "Anglo-Irish"... [I suspect it 'pends on whether or not he got a title AND wore shoes or not... or how long ago it had been since his kin had fallen from the Gaelic...] OK. But we must remember that the Scots are an Irish tribe (most of which) that moved across the waters to NE England, the Isles and SW corner of Scotland at least several times in the past few millenia... Helpin' the whole shebang are a few curious facts: A good number of these "Scots" on certain isles and in the SW of Scotland continue to speak good "Scots Gaelic" but call it "Gaidhlig" [officially in their mellifluous tongue] but -- "Erse." casually.... Gee... I wonder what THAT means? AND we mustn't forget that the language made more famous and familiar to world by the poet Bobbie Burns is (depending on your sources) a variant or dialect of English. Naturally, this English "language" is called "Scots." After all of that -- which I even think I sorta understand -- you might better sympathize as I confess that I go to bed every night full of fear that I shall find out tomorrow that "Shaw" is actually a Chinese name (I DO have an Uncle Richard) or the mutated, shortened form of some Slavic moniker like "Shawinenski " or "Shawellovich" and has NOTHING to do with Gaels and the Celts of Ireland, Scotland, South Boston and the Maritimes... :^) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Viola Seward" <olla@i29.net> To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2001 12:12 Subject: [SHAW] Shaw Families From Different Countries!!! > Hello Shaw family listers. You know when we have family that comes from > say Ireland. Our first thought is they are Irish. But thats wrong!! You > see my gggrandfather and family came to America from Ireland. But left > England to go to Ireland. Glad i knew my Shaws were English or i may > have searched Ireland. Then had some one found my actual family i would > have denied them because mine came from Ireland. Making them Irish. So a > lot of twists and turns but families moved back then just like they do > today. > Good luck. > Viola. > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > http://www.pivot.net/%7eeureka/index.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~onlanark/

Found a Justic of the Peace on a court order appraisal for Chartis Nickles by the name of Martin Shaw. Document was dated in Dec. 1827 in the Laurens District in SC. Does anyone want him?? Is he any kin to Luther Shaw from same area??? David Visit me at http://www.geocities.com/olivershagnasty1/_index.html

Dear Polly... Oh? Is THAT your opinion? When I noted that your Shaws seem to be from the same places as mine AND you have an opinion as well, I "KNEW" we must be closely related... :^) ASAP this frenetic week, I look forward to tossin' m'Shaw list atche and seein' how many you throw back at me -- be it for confirmation information or even jus' for spite! :^) Good to hear from ye, even if it proves to have been yet another hopefully approached "dead end"... Donald Henry Shaw [Quincy, MA; son of South Boston (same name); son of Harold Cooper Shaw of South Boston, MA; son of William Shaw of Country Down, Ireland... ] ... begotten of Seth, begotten of Abel, begotten of Adam -- and then (at long last!) we jus' done plumb fergotten who it was that did the primary -- "Ur" -- begotten... [Surely, someone must have been besotten! ] :^) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Polly Shaw" <shawp@cais.com> To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 13 April, 2001 18:21 Subject: [SHAW] Alphabet -- > Just my two cent's worth. I believe it would be more worthwhile > to do it by countries/counties/areas. e.g. My Shaws are from > ENG, MA, NB,CAN, ME-- Someone else talked about the John > Shaws--I'm descended from 5 of them (the fathers named John named > a son John--all descendants of Abraham the original immigrant > ancestor)--the information on the John Shaws as it appears on the > LDS site is so totally confused as to be useless. I have no > interest in a John Shaw from N.Y. or VT or to try to glean a > helpful kernel by reading about all the John Shaws. Just my > opinion. -- Polly Shaw > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Hi... Would like to compare notes with researchers who have the following GA connections: (1) SHAWs in Morgan, Newton or Henry Co's. (2) from the 1770's-1850's (3) with Christian male names James, William, Henry or Homer (4) affilliated with the BARNETT, FARRAR/ FARROW/FARER or REAVES families (5) or OTHER GA counties having similar names during the same time-period. I'm trying to find the parents/family/origins of my ggg gf James SHAW, who m. my ggg gm Roda FARRAR on 1 MAR, 1820 in Madison, Morgan Co., GA. His ch. were named William, James, Maranda, Delphia and Henry, all b. GA 1827-1836. Roda and her ch. later appeared in Benton (Calhoun Co.), AL in the 1850 census without James. (When/where he d. is a total mystery as are his origin and parents/family) ANY help/suggestion is respectfully requested. I can trace some of my families (NORWOOD, DuBOSE, WHILDEN, WARREN, POWELL, MAGEE, DUCKWORTH, FARRAR, PERRIN, ROYALL, LYGON and PIGGOT), et al, back from 700-1,000 years. But, my SHAW "brick wall" is 1820. :-( Can anyone help? Thanks! Dale Shaw

Hi Jennifer I saw your post on Ida Shaw and had to respond. My grandfather had a sister Ida,and I know that she was married to a man by the name of Hogate but she could have been married before she married him I don't know.She is from the same area Cumberland County and she was born in 1868 in Stow Creek. I guess it is a long shot but had to write. Bob Shaw Hamilton, NJ

I am looking for information on family of Oliver and his wife , Lucinda (DeVoe) Shaw. Oliver died 1-1-1902 at Cherokee City, Benton CO. AR. I would like to know if they had children, among other questions. Thank you, Duane DeVoe

Carol, I must be aseep at the computer, I missed out on where you obtained the infor. on this Shaw line. Hopefully a book. So here is a shot in the dark. Do you have any information on a Samuel Shaw born later than the ones you posted? I am looking for my great grandfather, Samuel (Middle name believed to be Edward) Shaw, born 1843 either in Oh. or Va. He was married to Cynthia Pierce and they were living in Lafayette Co. Mo. 1880. Vivian

Posted on: Shaw Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Shaw/10263 Surname: Shaw, Thompson, Hamilton, Moore, Thieman ------------------------- I am looking for information on John & Beatie Thieman. They were born to William & Ida Shaw of Cumberland County, NJ. Ida died a year after Beatie's birth and the 2 boys were given to the Thieman family. We believe the Thieman's were Ida's sister and Brother in law. If anyone has any info regarding this family please E-Mail me at Jenn218@aol.com. Thank you - Jennifer S. from NJ

Yes. My Shaw family came from Ireland from England. Fact is they made their wills out before they left England. Also got my ggrandfather and his brothers birth papers. Was lucky enough to get this info or i would probably still be searching Ireland.Have also completed my Shaw line back as far as it can be gotten in England. So they tell me!! Have a good day. Viola.

Now both A.Shaw and McMillian are probably scot named. Right. Know McMillian is. Also have an A. Shaw in my line in late 1700's. who was uncle to my McDougall family. Have a hard time memory wise so will not say if Shaws wife was McDougall or was McDougalls wife a SHAW!! Am 66 years young and my mind will never get any better but Please God dont let it get any worse. Thank you. Viola.

Hi listers, does anyone on the list know of a connection between Elizabeth YARDLEY, daughter of the founder of the Yardley Soap Co of London England, she is said to have married a William SHAW in the earley 1800's Lois

In a message dated 04/18/2001 5:16:11 PM Central Daylight Time, MJones9908@aol.com writes: << Exactly where is Lafayette Co. MO >> I believe Dearborn is close to St. Joseph, MO in Buchanan county........you might try looking at that county's webpage for info.......... Carol in MO

According to my Atlas, Lafayette Co., MO is the next county east of Jackson County and it looks like Independence and Raytown are in Jackson. Hope this helps. Pat Mc ----- Original Message ----- From: <CK4235@aol.com> To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SHAW] Shaw in Lafayette Co. Mo. In a message dated 04/18/2001 5:16:11 PM Central Daylight Time, MJones9908@aol.com writes: << Exactly where is Lafayette Co. MO >> I believe Dearborn is close to St. Joseph, MO in Buchanan county........you might try looking at that county's webpage for info.......... Carol in MO ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== http://www.pivot.net/%7eeureka/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~onlanark/

List in Wayne Co., NC death certificate bk 4 pg 461 Joseph S. Shaw b in SC, single -- Capt. in US Army -- d April 21, 1917 at age (abt) 40 Father -- A. S. Shaw b in NC Mother -- Elizabeth McMillan b in NC Maybe a lead someone has been looking???? David Visit me at http://www.geocities.com/olivershagnasty1/_index.html

Exactly where is Lafayette Co. MO. I had a James Shaw who died in MO, I believe Dearborn. I don't know his wife's name, she just sent a telegram and signed it Mrs. James B. Shaw. I've looked for a Dearborn and can't find it and nothing in Michigan either. Any insight from others appreciated! Mary of TN

Carol, Are the notes of the ggrandson posted anywhere? Did Samuel move? Thanks, Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: <CK4235@aol.com> To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [SHAW] Re:Posting by "Carol in MO" > Dale and Lillian: > > Both of you are looking in the same area (PA) where Samuel Shaw settled. > What little I know is the following: Samuel Shaw brought a certificate from > the Society of Friends in Lisburn, Ireland in 1729 (Immigration of the Irish > Quakers by Albert Cook Myers). Per "Early Families of Upper Bucks County" he > was born in County Antrim, Ireland in 1709-10. He married Mary Nixon in > 1737.........they lived in Berks co before moving to Richland (Bucks co.). > Children were Hannah (m. Hicks), Mary (m. Miller), John (m. Phoebe), Moses > (m. Carr), Joseph (m. Griffith), Samuel (m. Rea), and William (m. Carr). My > line then continues with Joseph and Rachel Griffith Shaw. > Their children were: George, b 1768, Samuel, Ann, David (Lillian: I wish > this might be your Ann, but I think she would have been born too early). > There are several Ann, > Mary ANN, Anna Shaws listed, but none with a birthdate close to 1805. > The hint about Samuel's parent being name John and Elizabeth comes from notes > his ggrandson made while preparing to write a family history (the history to > my knowledge never got finished).........from this tidbit, I am looking for > them in Irish Quaker records.......... > > Dale, I think we tried to match these families once before............if I > find a shred of evidence of a connection, I'll let you know. I suspician the > English link because the Society of Friends "religion" came to Ireland in the > mid 1600s and the Lisburn (part in Antrim, part in Down) area was heavy with > English settlers. > > Carol in MO > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SHAW-L-request@rootsweb.com > Place the word unsubscribe in the body of the message.

Carol, Thank you so much for your response and I will go look for that Miller book. At Rootsweb archives. All I have on Henry Miller is that he was born 17 Oct 1803 in Wayne Twp, Indiana County, PA. Thanks very much. Lillian LSchiendel@aol.com

I am interested in Lula Shaw. I find different spellings of the name. The Henderson name is new to me.

I wasn't aware of English "passing through" Ireland, but certainly many Scots did. My dictionary says: Scotch-I·rish (sk¼ch"º"r¹sh) n. 1. The people of Scotland who settled in northern Ireland or their descendants, especially those who emigrated to America. --Scotch-I·rish adj. Of or relating to the Scotch-Irish. QUOTE OF THE DAY "Although we modern persons tend to take our electric lights, radios, mixers, etc., for granted, hundreds of years ago people did not have any of these things, which is just as well because there was no place to plug them in. Then along came the first Electrical Pioneer, Benjamin Franklin, who flew a kite in a lighting storm and received a serious electrical shock. This proved that lighting was powered by the same force as carpets, but it also damaged Franklin's brain so severely that he started speaking only in incomprehensible maxims, such as 'A penny saved is a penny earned.' Eventually he had to be given a job running the post office." --Dave Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Viola Seward <olla@i29.net> To: <SHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: [SHAW] Shaw Families From Different Countries!!! > Hello Shaw family listers. You know when we have family that comes from > say Ireland. Our first thought is they are Irish. But thats wrong!! You > see my gggrandfather and family came to America from Ireland. But left > England to go to Ireland. Glad i knew my Shaws were English or i may > have searched Ireland. Then had some one found my actual family i would > have denied them because mine came from Ireland. Making them Irish. So a > lot of twists and turns but families moved back then just like they do > today. > Good luck. > Viola. > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > http://www.pivot.net/%7eeureka/index.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~onlanark/ > >