This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SHAW Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAHBAEB/4252 Message Board Post: SHAW_3_.JPG I took these two Shaw gravestone photographs in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Abiding Love Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use these pictures for your personal records. These are some of the 125,634 cemetery photos free for your personal use at http://teafor2.com

Hi! I don't have information on your line but I have SHAW family in my ancestry that approximates the time and places you have. The following are excerpts from my data at WorldConnect.com. Sarah is my direct ancestor. Rodger Airey Marlton, NJ · ID: I473 · Name: Sarah SHAW · Sex: F · Birth: 4 DEC 1797 in Fishkill, NY · Death: 11 MAR 1865 in Fishkill, NY · Burial: Bethel Baptist Church Cemetery, E. Fishkill · Change Date: 30 JAN 2002 Marriage 1 Thomas Lawrence JEWELL b: 12 JUN 1792 in Fishkill, NY · Married: ABT 1816 -------------------------------------------- · ID: I1407 · Name: SHAW · Sex: M · Change Date: 14 AUG 2003 Marriage 1 Phoebe CHARLOCK b: 24 NOV 1779 ------------------------------------------------- · ID: I804 · Name: Elizabeth SHAW · Sex: F · Birth: 16 FEB 1795 · Occupation: 1/2 Indian · Change Date: 12 SEP 2003 Marriage 1 George JEWELL b: 7 FEB 1788 in Tarrytown, NY > Hi, > I am hoping that someone might have information on one of my brick wall > ancestors. > > SHAW, Isaac > Birth: 1780 Dutchess Co. NY > Death: 9 October, 1822 West Lincoln Co. Upper > Canada (Niagara Region) 42 yrs. of age > Burial: Merritt Settlement Cemetery, West Lincoln, > Smithville, Ontario, Canada > Residence: Lot 5, Con 6, Caistor Twp. West Lincoln, Ontario, Canada > > Wife: MERRITT, Prudence b.1772 Fishkill, Dutchess Co., NY (d/o Joseph Merritt > UEL and Mary Parker originally of Fishkill, Dutchess Co., NY. Emmigrated to > Upper Canada following the American Revolution) > > Children: > 1. Elizabeth Shaw b.1804 > 2. Deborah Shaw > 3. Mary Ann Shaw b.1810 > 4. William Hamilton Shaw b.1814 > 5. Enoch Dolton Shaw b.Sept. 16, 1816 > 6. Nancy Shaw b.1818 > 7. Prudence Shaw b.1821 > 8. Isaac N. Shaw b.1823 > > It is from Issac and Prudence's daughter Mary Ann Shaw and her husband William > Havens whom I am descended. Isaac petitioned for land in Grimsby Twp. in 18180 > and had apparently been in Upper Canada for 11 years at that time. It is also > recorded that he had a lame knee and served on Grimsby Twp. council in 1814 in > Upper Canada. > > I have much information on my Merritt line, but know nothing about Isaac Shaw's > parentage, siblings and heritage. The Merritts were Loyalists, so I assume that > Isaac Shaw and his family were also Loyalists, but have no actual proof of this. > > I found a number of Shaws in the 1790 census/head of households list. There is > Enoch Shaw who was in Fishkill, Isaac Shaw who was in Philipstown, Michael Shaw > in Fishkill and William Shaw Sr. in Fishkill, all in Dutchess Co. NY who I think > could be possible fathers of my Isaac Shaw, as he would have been only 10 years > of age at the time of this census. There are numerous other Shaws listed as > well, but I'm looking at the fact that my Isaac Shaw had a son named Enoch and > at who was in Fishkill in 1790, where Prudence Merritt was from at that time. > Other Shaws on the > census list for Dutchess Co. in 1790 inclued Benjamin, Daniel, Eli, James, > Joshua, Noah, Reuben, Robert, William and William Jr. > > Does anyone on this mailing list have these names in their family tree or know > anything more about this Shaw line? Any help or input would be most gratefully > appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Diane > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > Suggestions? Please email the Shaw List Administrator: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi, I am hoping that someone might have information on one of my brick wall ancestors. SHAW, Isaac Birth: 1780 Dutchess Co. NY Death: 9 October, 1822 West Lincoln Co. Upper Canada (Niagara Region) 42 yrs. of age Burial: Merritt Settlement Cemetery, West Lincoln, Smithville, Ontario, Canada Residence: Lot 5, Con 6, Caistor Twp. West Lincoln, Ontario, Canada Wife: MERRITT, Prudence b.1772 Fishkill, Dutchess Co., NY (d/o Joseph Merritt UEL and Mary Parker originally of Fishkill, Dutchess Co., NY. Emmigrated to Upper Canada following the American Revolution) Children: 1. Elizabeth Shaw b.1804 2. Deborah Shaw 3. Mary Ann Shaw b.1810 4. William Hamilton Shaw b.1814 5. Enoch Dolton Shaw b.Sept. 16, 1816 6. Nancy Shaw b.1818 7. Prudence Shaw b.1821 8. Isaac N. Shaw b.1823 It is from Issac and Prudence's daughter Mary Ann Shaw and her husband William Havens whom I am descended. Isaac petitioned for land in Grimsby Twp. in 18180 and had apparently been in Upper Canada for 11 years at that time. It is also recorded that he had a lame knee and served on Grimsby Twp. council in 1814 in Upper Canada. I have much information on my Merritt line, but know nothing about Isaac Shaw's parentage, siblings and heritage. The Merritts were Loyalists, so I assume that Isaac Shaw and his family were also Loyalists, but have no actual proof of this. I found a number of Shaws in the 1790 census/head of households list. There is Enoch Shaw who was in Fishkill, Isaac Shaw who was in Philipstown, Michael Shaw in Fishkill and William Shaw Sr. in Fishkill, all in Dutchess Co. NY who I think could be possible fathers of my Isaac Shaw, as he would have been only 10 years of age at the time of this census. There are numerous other Shaws listed as well, but I'm looking at the fact that my Isaac Shaw had a son named Enoch and at who was in Fishkill in 1790, where Prudence Merritt was from at that time. Other Shaws on the census list for Dutchess Co. in 1790 inclued Benjamin, Daniel, Eli, James, Joshua, Noah, Reuben, Robert, William and William Jr. Does anyone on this mailing list have these names in their family tree or know anything more about this Shaw line? Any help or input would be most gratefully appreciated. Thank you. Diane

Thanks for the input on the SHAWs, GrannyToad. Like that email address !! Pretty cute !! Let me respond to several of your inputs. I had missed Oscar in 1850 for some reason -- possibly because Ancestry and HeritageQuest don't have the 1850 Census indexed. The Mary E. versus Nancy E. poses more questions, but the ages seem to track. What would we ever do if there were no questions?? :>)) It's always possible that a neighbor gave the information to the Census taker, or maybe even the parents hadn't really decided completely on a name for the newborn daughter. Then I had found Oscar in the 1870 Census after my posting. I had noted the "Julia" in Oscar's household, suggesting that maybe she was a second spouse, but I hadn't noticed Mary in the same household. Thanks for noting that. I did notice "Jennie" at the right age for "Nancy J." in 1870, and I have seen something recently in Robert Brennan's books somewhere that suggested the "Jennie" given name. I also had not found Henry A. in Middletown in 1870 -- thanks for that tip, too. Maybe with enough inputs, we'll be able to put these SHAWs together !! Thanks again for your contributions. John Hale Williamsburg, VA In a message dated 8/22/2005 9:48:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I took an interest because of Wallkill, seeing a Weller, knowing I had a few scattered Shaws - but did not find yours unless I don't know a wife's surname. I research Hill, some Smith, from there. But. Look at this: 1850 Wallkill, Orange, New York Roll: M432_574 Page: 78 31 July SHAW Oscar A 35 farmer, all b NY Mary A 34 Henry A 13, David W 7, Mary E 2/12 Older son Henry. Mary not Nancy. Was she known as Nancy post-1870? 1860 > New York > Orange > Wallkill Roll: M653_835 Middletown PO, page 130B? SHAW Mary E 10 page 129 Henry A's also in Middletown, married to Lavinia, could be dau of Samuel Vauflat(?). Sometimes more or better info helps. One of those daughters may have married a Weller, so often siblings did - but who knows. 1870 > New York > Orange > Wallkill Roll: M593_1070 Page: 511 Middletown PO Oscar's remarried with a Julia age 41, Sarah J's called Jennie. Mary's still at home but listed below Joshua Moore 23 - maybe they're about to marry. Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:26:28 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Marriage Lookup, Nancy E. Shaw & Sarah J. Shaw, Orange Co, NY > > Hi List, > > Looking for possible marriage records for Nancy E. Shaw, born about 1850, and > > Sarah J. Shaw, born about 1853, both daughters of Oscar Shaw and Mary Ann > Carpenter. These family members were residents of the Wallkill area of > Orange > County in the 1860 Census. I am presuming, but am not certain, that both > Nancy > and Sarah were married in Orange County. They do NOT appear in Robert > Brennan's "Wallkill, Orange County, NY, Vital Statistics, 1881-1913", > possibly > because they were married before 1881. Hopefully, SKS out there will have > access to > some earlier marriage records. > > Appreciate any information, clues, leads, etc. > John Hale > Williamsburg, VA > > Descendants of Oscar Shaw > .1 Oscar Shaw b: Abt. 1816 in New York > .. +Mary Ann Carpenter b: Abt. 1816 in New York > ......... 2 [1] David Winfield Shaw b: Bet. January 27 - February, 1843 in > Howells, Orange County, New York d: January 19, 1912 in Town of Wallkill, > Orange County, New York > ............. +Matilda A. Myers or Matilda Mae Williams b: Abt. 1845 in New > York d: Bef. 1880 > ......... *2nd Wife of [1] David Winfield Shaw: > ............. +Ida J. Weller b: Bet. 1853 - March 1854 in New York m: Abt. > 1881 > ......... 2 Nancy E. Shaw b: Abt. 1850 in New York > ......... 2 Sarah J. Shaw b: Abt. 1853 in New York >

Richard Shaw born 29 Feb 1708 married Hanna Cowley at St Peters Church in Derby, Derby, Eng. Viola.

Thanks for your response, Emma Jean. Unfortunately, what you saw in my posting is all I have on the Sarah J. Shaw, daughter of Oscar Shaw and Mary Ann Carpenter. Sarah J.'s name and birth date and location came from the 1860 Census of Wallkill, Orange County, NY. I did look a bit further in Robert Brennan's "Wallkill, Orange County, NY, Vital Statistics, 1881-1913", but did NOT find a marriage record for Sarah J. Shaw. Given her birth date of about 1853, this source might be too late for her. Sorry I couldn't find her. ;<(( However, you might have some success in posting a query to the RootsWeb Orange County Mailing List at [email protected] Oscar Shaw and his family were living in Orange County in 1860. Good luck. I'll keep an eye out for Sarah J, however. Give her a try when the "S's" come up on the SHAW list !! :>)) John Hale Williamsburg, VA In a message dated 8/20/2005 1:04:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: John, Do you have any further information on this Sarah J. Shaw, daughter of Oscar Shaw and Mary Ann Carpenter? Such as who she married? Or if she emigrated westward toward Indiana or Illinois? I have a Sarah Shaw, married to a William Lung...and I absolutely have not found a thing on her, so I am wondering if this Sarah might be my Sarah. Thanks in advance for any further info. Blessings, Emma Jean Reed McGill [email protected]

Since we've finally made it to the O's. I'd like to try again in hopes that someone has run across my OTIS Shaw. What I know: Otis SHAW was born about 1785 and married Lydia CARVER August 31, 1807 in Vinalhaven, Maine. They had nine children that I know of: Hannah, Jenny, John, Mary, William, Abigail, Susan, Margaret and Rebecca. Lydia CARVER, daughter of Thaddeus CARVER and Hannah HALL, died June 26, 1829 in Vinalhaven, Maine. Otis married Nancy Marchant/Merchant on December 14, 1831 in Vinalhaven. Otis is mentioned in three issues of "Times and Seasons" that I located on the internet in regards to meetings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In a September 1841 issue, he is listed as the Clerk. In a December 1841 issue and again in an April 1843 issue, he is listed as the president of the church branch for Fox Islands. In the 1850 census, his second wife, Nancy, is listed living with her son Andrew Marchant. I could not find Otis in the 1850 census. What I DON'T know: Where and when was Otis born? Who were his parents? Where and when did he die? Otis SHAW is my 4th great-grandfather. Thanks for any information. Linda (in Florida)

John, Do you have any further information on this Sarah J. Shaw, daughter of Oscar Shaw and Mary Ann Carpenter? Such as who she married? Or if she emigrated westward toward Indiana or Illinois? I have a Sarah Shaw, married to a William Lung...and I absolutely have not found a thing on her, so I am wondering if this Sarah might be my Sarah. Thanks in advance for any further info. Blessings, Emma Jean Reed McGill [email protected]

Hi Shaw List, FINALLY, I can respond to the request for the alphabetic earliest-Shaw connections !! :>)) Below I've copied from my database my Shaw connection, including the earliest Shaw in my sister-in-law's line. She is a granddaughter of the John Stewart Decker who married Ida May Shaw, daughter of David Winfield Shaw, son of the earliest known Shaw, Oscar Shaw, born about 1816 in New York. These Shaw's are an Orange County, NY family. Appreciate any information, clues, leads, etc. on the ancestry of Oscar Shaw -- or connections to any of you "cousins" out there. :>)) Thanks, John Hale Williamsburg, VA Descendants of Oscar Shaw 1 Oscar Shaw b: Abt. 1816 in New York .. +Mary Ann Carpenter b: Abt. 1816 in New York ......... 2 [2] David Winfield Shaw b: Bet. January 27 - February, 1843 in Howells, Orange County, New York d: January 19, 1912 in Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York ............. +Matilda A. Myers or Matilda Mae Williams b: Abt. 1845 in New York d: Bef. 1880 .................... 3 Lucy Gertrude "Lulu" Shaw b: Bet. June 24, 1870 - 1871 in New York ........................ +George Irving Wakeman b: Bet. July 03, 1868 - July 1870 in New York m: April 13, 1889 in Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York d: 1933 in Thompsonville, New York .................... 3 [1] Ida May/Mae Shaw b: July 22, 1874 in New York d: January 1955 ........................ +John Stewart Decker b: Bet. March 1870 - 1871 in Red Mills, New York m: July 18, 1894 in Wallkill, Orange County, New York d: June 13, 1955 in Home of son, Oscar Decker, 142 Montgomery Street, Newburgh, Orange County, New York Burial: Wallkill Valley Cemetery, Walden, Orange County, New York .................... *2nd Husband of [1] Ida May/Mae Shaw: ........................ +Archie L. Montgomery b: Abt. 1884 in New York m: Aft. 1900 ......... *2nd Wife of [2] David Winfield Shaw: ............. +Ida J. Weller b: Bet. 1853 - March 1854 in New York m: Abt. 1881 .................... 3 Benjamin W. Shaw b: March 1882 in New York ........................ +Laura/Lena Crans b: Abt. 1883 in New York m: October 25, 1905 in Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York .................... 3 Clarence Shaw b: Bet. December 05, 1886 - December 1887 in Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York .................... 3 Harrison/Harry H/S Shaw b: February 13, 1889 in Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York .................... 3 Helen T. Shaw b: December 1891 in New York .................... 3 John Shaw b: February 1898 in New York ......... 2 Nancy E. Shaw b: Abt. 1850 in New York ......... 2 Sarah J. Shaw b: Abt. 1853 in New York In a message dated 8/15/2005 11:35:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lets hear from anyone researching Shaws whose given (first) names started with an O or P. The older, the better. Of course, all other Shaw inquiries welcome also. Keep in mind, it makes it easier if instead of hitting the "reply," just start a new email to [email protected] with YOUR "O" or "P" Shaw name in the Subject line. This has been fun...we will make it through the whole alphabet by the end of the year. I appreciate the list managers letting us do this. Susan Shaw Gardner [email protected]

Hi Kay, Jasper is not a name in my SHAW material. Hance SHAW, according to family myth, was a teenage stowaway on a ship from Scotland to North Carolina America in late 1600 or early 1700. No records can be found. William b.1748 m.Ann ELLISON/ALLISON 1774. Son William b. 1793 SC m.1816 Sarah FRITZ . Solomon Webber SHAW b.Christian Co.1825 KY m. 1846 Martha HUBBARD moved to White Co. IL abt 1856 / 59. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [SHAW] Old WEBBER-SHAW handwritten genealogy w/old genealogy book on ebay! > Hi Ginny, > Seeing that your SHAW bunch came into NC, makes me > wonder if there might be a connection with us. > We were told that our line of Shaws landed either > in Charleston, SC or Savannah, GA. We've traced back > to Jasper Shaw (1832-1885) in Cherokee, NC - but have > had no luck finding his parents. Been searching for > over 18 months now, even driving to NC (we live in > Michigan) and taking photos of Jasper's grave. He > served in the Civil War. Beginning to wonder if he > just dropped out of the sky and didn't really have > parents (giggle). > Any suggestions? > Kay Shaw > > --- ginnyg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you for sending this to the list. Two of the > > surnames (Webber and > > Pomeroy) are used, in my SHAW family, as middle > > names for male ancestors. > > Sadly, the locations differ. My SHAW bunch came into > > NC, to KY and IL. Other > > of their siblings went to MO, TX, AL, and MS. I hope > > the right family finds > > it. ginny > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jamie" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:49 PM > > Subject: [SHAW] Old WEBBER-SHAW handwritten > > genealogy w/old genealogy book > > on ebay! > > > > > > > Old WEBBER-SHAW-POMEROY-COVELL handwritten > > genealogy! And old Webber > > Genealogy book found on ebay. > > > They have description of the lot of handwritten > > genealogy items on the > > page. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5607139621 > > > Or do a search on ebay for item number: 5607139621 > > > Never know, you may just have some family history > > in their store. They > > have alot of family history books and cd's. > > > Hope it helps, > > > Jamie > > > > > > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe: [email protected] OR > > > [email protected] > > > Place the word unsubscribe in the body of the > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe: [email protected] OR > > [email protected] > > Place the word unsubscribe in the body of the > > message. > > > > > > > Kay Shaw > Have a splendiferous day! > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > Suggestions? Please email the Shaw List Administrator: > [email protected] > >

Seeking the burial site(s) of David and Nancy (Rice) Shaw. I've seen different KY counties given, but never an identified cemetery. Usually Nancy Rice Shaw's death is said to have occurred in Nelson Co KY while David's is listed as Allen or Barren Co KY. Does anyone have something more definitive? JTL [email protected]

Hi Ginny, Seeing that your SHAW bunch came into NC, makes me wonder if there might be a connection with us. We were told that our line of Shaws landed either in Charleston, SC or Savannah, GA. We've traced back to Jasper Shaw (1832-1885) in Cherokee, NC - but have had no luck finding his parents. Been searching for over 18 months now, even driving to NC (we live in Michigan) and taking photos of Jasper's grave. He served in the Civil War. Beginning to wonder if he just dropped out of the sky and didn't really have parents (giggle). Any suggestions? Kay Shaw --- ginnyg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you for sending this to the list. Two of the > surnames (Webber and > Pomeroy) are used, in my SHAW family, as middle > names for male ancestors. > Sadly, the locations differ. My SHAW bunch came into > NC, to KY and IL. Other > of their siblings went to MO, TX, AL, and MS. I hope > the right family finds > it. ginny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jamie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:49 PM > Subject: [SHAW] Old WEBBER-SHAW handwritten > genealogy w/old genealogy book > on ebay! > > > > Old WEBBER-SHAW-POMEROY-COVELL handwritten > genealogy! And old Webber > Genealogy book found on ebay. > > They have description of the lot of handwritten > genealogy items on the > page. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5607139621 > > Or do a search on ebay for item number: 5607139621 > > Never know, you may just have some family history > in their store. They > have alot of family history books and cd's. > > Hope it helps, > > Jamie > > > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe: [email protected] OR > > [email protected] > > Place the word unsubscribe in the body of the > message. > > > > > > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] OR > [email protected] > Place the word unsubscribe in the body of the > message. > > Kay Shaw Have a splendiferous day!

Thank you for sending this to the list. Two of the surnames (Webber and Pomeroy) are used, in my SHAW family, as middle names for male ancestors. Sadly, the locations differ. My SHAW bunch came into NC, to KY and IL. Other of their siblings went to MO, TX, AL, and MS. I hope the right family finds it. ginny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: [SHAW] Old WEBBER-SHAW handwritten genealogy w/old genealogy book on ebay! > Old WEBBER-SHAW-POMEROY-COVELL handwritten genealogy! And old Webber Genealogy book found on ebay. > They have description of the lot of handwritten genealogy items on the page. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5607139621 > Or do a search on ebay for item number: 5607139621 > Never know, you may just have some family history in their store. They have alot of family history books and cd's. > Hope it helps, > Jamie > > > ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] OR > [email protected] > Place the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > >

Old WEBBER-SHAW-POMEROY-COVELL handwritten genealogy! And old Webber Genealogy book found on ebay. They have description of the lot of handwritten genealogy items on the page. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5607139621 Or do a search on ebay for item number: 5607139621 Never know, you may just have some family history in their store. They have alot of family history books and cd's. Hope it helps, Jamie

James Perry Shaw was born 1819 to Daniel SHAW and Elizabeth (Patsy) PIPES at Mercer Co., Kentucky.He wed Elmira T. CROWDIS about 1844. He died Feb 1899, Browning, Missouri Children were: George D. Shaw b abt 1845 died at Dorpheus Island (was this a Civil War place?) Louisa Shaw, born 1849 died 1926 Eliza (Ann?) born abt 1850 Derley (male) born abt 1851 Bettie F., born abt 1852 John William born abt 1852 and two infants. I think James Perry Shaw had at least full sister, Felicia Ann Shaw born abt 1815 in Mercer Co, KY. Is anyone researching this family? Susie Shaw Gardner [email protected] Winthrop, Washington

Bob-I meant to say emailing NALF for info on Mary Leavitt m Philip Shaw. -------Original Message------- From: Bob Ray Date: 08/16/05 10:21:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [SHAW] Phillip Shaw My GGGrandfather, Phillip Shaw was born in 1804 in Portland Me. He migrated to Macoupin County sometime after 1840 as my GGrandfather James W. Shaw was born then in Portland. I can track James but can find nothing on his father or mother. Could anyone help. Thanks Bob Ray [email protected] ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== To contact the SHAW List Administrator: [email protected]

Bob, I see Phillip in Portland, ME in 1840 age 30-40 with what looks like wife 30-40 and two children under 5, one m one f. In 1850 I find in Portland also, all b ME except Margaret b England: Philip Shaw 45 Margaret Shaw 22 Philip Shaw 13 Mary E Shaw 11 James Shaw 10 Sarah Shaw 7 Martha Murry 19 Philip and Mary must be the two children from 1840 and James must have been born after the census. These children are too old to belong to Margaret, presumably the second wife. Sarah is probably from the first marriage as well. In 1860 T11R7 Macoupin, IL (all Shaw): Phillip 44 ME Margaret 30 England George H 10 ME Hellen E 7 ME Alice 3 IL Ada 3/12 IL Phillip 22 ME Mary 20 ME Sarah 17 ME James 18 ME The way the children grouped--not by age order--makes me think George, Hellen, Alice and Ada are from the second marriage to Margaret. James' age is off here, but that is not uncommon. Phillip Sr is a year younger than he was in 1850, so one or the other is wrong, I suspect the 1850 is correct, even though this seems too old to be Margaret's husband, because he was 30-40 in 1840, so 45 in 1850 seems good. And from the POB's it looks like the family migrated from ME between 1853 and '57. On my FHL disc I find: SHAW, Phillip Marriage Wife: Margaret J. HALL Marriage Date: 10 Sep 1849 Recorded in: Civil Records for Portland, Cumberland, Maine Source: FHL Number 12021 Dates: 1811-1853 and the same marriage recorded 2 Sep 1849. This doesn't help much with James' mother, and I do not find that one listed but it may be in another database. But it does tell us that Sarah belongs to the first wife, so DOD for James' mother must be 1843-1849? Why couldn't they have started listing all the names from the get-go instead of waiting till 1850? Maybe try posting to the Kennebec county message board to see if anyone will do a lookup at the state archives in Augusta for Philip Shaw + ? 1826-1837, leaning toward 1834-37, probably married in Portland, ME. Something happens to break up the family, in 1870 I find Alice living with sister Mary now married to James C Rutherford--I think, the POB and DOB line up for both -- in Madelia, Watonwan, MN. Possible Ada in Iowa with another relative, though this doesn't seem as good a match. Phillip Jr is in Knox county IL with 2 ch and cannot find James. James shows up still in Macoupin county in 1880, married with 3 ch under 10, so probably more fiddling with the search keys would make him pop out in 1870 as well. It is possible from the fact that 12 year old Alice is living with half sister in a completely different state that both Phillip Sr and Margaret have died. Now checking Internet trees now that I know a few facts I find on Kenneth Linwood Shaw III's site http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kenshaw2001&id=I002215 ID: I002215 Name: Mary L. LEAVITT 1 Sex: F Birth: 17 AUG 1802 Death: AUG 1848 in Portland, Cumberland County, Maine, USA Burial: 1848 Western Cemetery, Lot 85, Range D2, Portland, Cumberland County Maine, USA Marriage 1 Philip SHAW b: 23 DEC 1804 in ?Portland, Cumberland County, Maine USA Married: NOV 1831 in Portland, Cumberland County, Maine, USA Sources: Title: "Abraham Shaw of Watertown and Dedham, Massachusetts, New England in Progress" Author: Kenneth Linwood Shaw, III Publication: A collection of compiled pedigrees & data from books, bibles, town vital records, grave yards and people through out the United States of America and Canada (Copyright © 2001-2005, first data posted o nline 11th October 2001) Note: Please E-mail your Abraham Shaw family line to us at <[email protected]> or US Mail address: 37 Taunton Green, Post Office Box 1016, Taunton, Bristol County, Massachusetts 02780 Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic This is more than I hoped for! There are no children shown, but by the dates and the location of Portland, ME I think this has to be who you are looking for. I do not find this marriage in the WALF database, but will email the WALF genealogist to see if they have it in the Leavitt database. Here is Philip's entry on the Ken Linwood Shaw page--you can click on the father and mother's name to extend your lines up. There is the caution that the facts need to be verified--if sources are given and check out you should be in good shape. I have found errors on this database, although Ken's research seems excellent, many of the entries come from others and there is no way he can personally research every entry. ID: I005002 Name: Philip SHAW 1 Sex: M Birth: 23 DEC 1804 in ?Portland, Cumberland County, Maine, USA Death: 5 APR 1866 in Girard, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Burial: 1866 Nilwood Cemetery, Nilwood, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Note: Philip Shaw resided in Portland, Cumberland County, Maine and Nilwood, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Father: Joseph Shaw b: 31 MAR 1762 in North Yarmouth, Cumberland County, Maine, New England Mother: Sarah Wyman b: 17 NOV 1767 in North Yarmouth, Cumberland County, Maine, New England When you are through compiling Philip forward you may want to send it to Ken Shaw. I will keep you posted on the Leavitt end if it checks out. NALF has a considerable database on the descendants of the original Leavitt immigrants. Good luck! Valerie -------Original Message------- From: Bob Ray Date: 08/16/05 10:21:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [SHAW] Phillip Shaw My GGGrandfather, Phillip Shaw was born in 1804 in Portland Me. He migrated to Macoupin County sometime after 1840 as my GGrandfather James W. Shaw was born then in Portland. I can track James but can find nothing on his father or mother. Could anyone help. Thanks Bob Ray [email protected] ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== To contact the SHAW List Administrator: [email protected]

In response to Susan Shaw Gardner's request to the list for Shaw first names beginning with P, I am asking the following question: I have just one name to add to the list Pauline Shaw b 1901, in Bridgeton, NJ Still there in 1920 she married Nicholas Pasquale. Pauline is the daughter of Chester Shaw and Elizabeth Matlack.

Bob, where is Macoupin County? -------Original Message------- From: Bob Ray Date: 08/16/05 10:21:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [SHAW] Phillip Shaw My GGGrandfather, Phillip Shaw was born in 1804 in Portland Me. He migrated to Macoupin County sometime after 1840 as my GGrandfather James W. Shaw was born then in Portland. I can track James but can find nothing on his father or mother. Could anyone help. Thanks Bob Ray [email protected] ==== SHAW Mailing List ==== To contact the SHAW List Administrator: [email protected]

My GGGrandfather, Phillip Shaw was born in 1804 in Portland Me. He migrated to Macoupin County sometime after 1840 as my GGrandfather James W. Shaw was born then in Portland. I can track James but can find nothing on his father or mother. Could anyone help. Thanks Bob Ray [email protected]