I am looking for information on a Lyle Sharp,who would be in his early to mid 70's if still alive.Had lived in or near Grand Rapids,Mich. in late 1970's to early 1980's.He had worked at Grand Rapids Police Dept.Later at Post Office,that area.Lyle is a first cousin,would like to reach him for additional tree info. Thanks; Charles A.Sharp [email protected]

Esther: Where did you find the name "Tamov?" I.e., was it census records, marriage records? The reason I am asking is that there is a great problem with understanding some of that old handwriting, especially with "flourished" letters. For example, could it have been "Tamar" which is a common name in Pennsylvania, "Tamer" or even "Sarah" (although more unlikely)? Here's an example for handwriting gone amok: In the census records in Virginia in 1840, we were very curious to see that the transcribers had listed a "Gott Sharp" living close to my husband's g-g-g-grandfather and uncle. I ran to the library, got a copy of the sheet and studied it for hours with a magnifying glass. Knowing that the word "Gott" is "God" in German, this was all the more puzzling. Suddenly, one evening I cried out in recognition of what had happened. It wasn't "Gott" after all -- it was "G.M." (Grandison M. -- our 3-g) written with such a flourish that the transcriber had misinterpreted it. I just ran a search on FamilyTreeMaker for Tamov anything, and not one hit. Several hits on "Tamar." *Tons* of Sharps in Pennsylvania, especially Philadelphia. I would suggest you look up the 1850 census records to find a girl named something that looks like "Tamov" (more likely Tamar) who would be between 15 and 20 years of age in 1850 (was that her first child born in 1858?). Good luck! :o) Priscilla

To the Sharp Lister's Since, I was the one who asked the origin of the Sharp name and it looks like the answer has generated a few different locations, then may I generalize and ask, Does anyone anywhere have a Tamov Sharp? I can't imagine with a name as Tamov that too many people would have that in their branches.lol -- Esther Fetsko ---USA LINE--------------Sharp,Baker,Gallagher,Carroll Surnames------------- TAVOV SHARP,b.?d.?,m.Daniel Baker, b.?d.? Chld:John Baker, b.1858,d.1936,Media, Pa.,m.Ida R.Markwood,b.1865,d.1950 Chld:Howard Lewis,b.1882,d.1965,m.Catherine Gallagher, b.1889,Phila,d.1963,Media Chld:Lewis,Ernie, Margret(my grandmother) b,1917, Media,m.John J.Carroll, b,1912,Clifton,d.1982 CHLD:JOHN,(my father),Charles,Catherine,Sharon.

[email protected] . . . INTERESTING! I have a grandfather, Theodore MONROE SHARP, born 14 January 1868, Waterford, Onatario, CANADA. His father, Theodore, born 1837, may have travelled north from the USA after serving in the Spanish-American War. (I may have incorrectly speculated that he was part of the English migration to CANADA, 1820-1840.) What is the derivation of the MONROE name in your family? Howard H o w a r d R a y L a w r e n c e Penn State url: http://www.personal.psu.edu/hrl/

Bud, thanks a lot for the informationb you sent. I have his birth date as 15 Nov. 1789 in Del. Somehow, I had thought it was MD., but my records read the above. Do you have anything at all on Lessix? I had not had Mary married before this. Do you have any proof of this? I'd be very happy to have some. Where was Hiram born in Del.? Who were Mary's parents? I do have the other information you gave, and it corresponds with yours. I live in Carroll CO., GA, and Hiram's daughter, Elizabeth Sharp married my great grandfather, William Williams. They are buried within a mile of my house in the private Williams cemetery. They have a nice monument, nothing fancy, but nice. Their daughter, Dicey (named for her grandmother, LuDicey Kelly Williams) and her husband, James Harper, are also buried there. Several small children are buried there (There must have been illnesses at the ned of the Civil War. A new elementary school has been built on what was Hiram's land near Temple. It's called the Sharp Creek School. Can I give you any more information? Any help you can givce me will be appreciated. Bill (Incidentally, I worked for 26 years in Florida -- First for the Univ. of Florida, then for the University of South Florida. WGM)

Margaret, In my Sharp records I have a Hiram LESSIX/SHARP, yes with 2 completely different birthdates, one 15 Nov 1787 in MD and one 24 Apr 1789 in DE. Take your pick. Infant Hiram came from DE to Augusta, GA, with his mother Mary Lessix (married name) and her two brothers, Daniel & William. As he grew up, he took his mother's maiden name of Sharp. He married Sarah Ann Owens, 8 Nov 1811, Warren Co, GA. He then served in the War of 1812, pvt in Capt. William Walker's Company, GA Militia. Hiram moved from Morgan Co to Carroll Co, GA, in 1828, and took up land near Temple, where he was an early settler. He acquired a large farm on the Little Tallapossa River, south of Temple. Does this add anything to what you have? A bit here and a piece there might break up your brick wall. Bud Sharpe in sunny Florida.

At 06:15 PM 6/4/00 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >There are Sharp families that have been identified from several countries. > >As for spelling, it was only in the 20th century that the spelling of names >became important to anybody (probably because illiteracy was so common Two of my ggrandfathers changed the spellings of their last names in the early 20th century: one changed his from Sharp to Sharpe shortly after he became the first college graduate in his family and the other changed his from Snider to Snyder shortly after he started working for the railroad (possibly someone told him to). I've seen old documents in which people's last names are spelled differently within the document: I don't think this is so much illiteracy as a feeling that spelling one's last name the same way every time wasn't important. I believe that centralized records, primarily the keeping of centralized records in multi-state concerns and in school districts, and the military draft for World War I were enormous influences in the standardization of the spelling of last names. Elizabeth Whitaker [email protected]

Hi Do you have a birthdate on your William? I have a William Sharp b. 1796 ended up in Nova Scotia Canada around 1815 - 1818 and in 1820 had a land grant in New Brunswick. For the life of me not sure where William came from on the 1851 census it said he was Irish, but he may have come up from the States. Just a hunch. Debbie [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Sharpe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [SHARP-L] What is Sharp's Origin? > Margaret, > > In my Sharp records I have a Hiram LESSIX/SHARP, yes with 2 completely > different birthdates, one 15 Nov 1787 in MD and one 24 Apr 1789 in DE. Take > your pick. Infant Hiram came from DE to Augusta, GA, with his mother Mary > Lessix (married name) and her two brothers, Daniel & William. As he grew > up, he took his mother's maiden name of Sharp. He married Sarah Ann Owens, > 8 Nov 1811, Warren Co, GA. He then served in the War of 1812, pvt in Capt. > William Walker's Company, GA Militia. Hiram moved from Morgan Co to Carroll > Co, GA, in 1828, and took up land near Temple, where he was an early > settler. He acquired a large farm on the Little Tallapossa River, south of > Temple. > > Does this add anything to what you have? A bit here and a piece there might > break up your brick wall. > > Bud Sharpe in sunny Florida. > > > ==== SHARP Mailing List ==== > > >

Hi, I am new to the lister. Here is what I know about my SHARP line. Can anyone help? My gggrandparents were: Willis Monroe SHARP (1846 or 48 - 1905) married Harriett (HARDER??) SHARP (1849-1928) They lived in Hickman Co. TN and moved to Gibson County, TN due to the poor soil in Middle Tennessee. I do not know anything at all about their parents... they didn't speak of them. They had 13 children. They are as follows: John Thomas Sharp Media Sharp Goza Leora Sharp Lancaster Lillian Sharp Clementine Sharp Thomas Jim Sharp Elihue Leondus Sharp (nicknames: Cal and E.H.) my ggrandfather Tom Sharp Doss Sharp Cleo Sharp Ella Sharp West Hattie Sharp Land Ad Lee Sharp

Raylene, Who were the parents of your John Thomas SHARP? My gggrandfather was born in 1846 or 48. He had 13 brothers and sisters. The oldest was John Thomas Sharp. Their parents were Willis Monroe Sharp and Harriet Sharp. I think John Thomas was born in Hickman county TN. but the family later moved to Kenton, TN in Gibson County. Is this your John Thomas? Laura Sharp

Welcome Patti. I have a lone and lonely Sharp named ESTHER who would have been about the right age to be the sister of Morris 2. She married Samuel Gould and lived in Oswego County, New York. Do you have sibs for Morris? Thanks, Ann

Thank you, but are you saying that my Sharps of Pa. could appear in this History? Harry Thelma Nation wrote: > There is some very good information on the Sharps in Union Co., Tn. My husband's Sharp ancestors settled in Bold Valley. A lot of information on Sharp in a book, "To Loy's Cross Roads" I think you can order this book from Union County Historical Society. I got mine from there. Very interesting history of the area, including the Sharps. > Thelma Nation > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Priscilla Sharp <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: [SHARP-L] Sharps of Penna. > > > We are forgetting also that many of the PA German Schaup/Schaub and Dutch > > and German Scharf/Scharp families changed their name/spelling to Sharp. > > Many of them are known to have migrated south from PA to NC and elsewhere. > > I wouldn't rule them out, either. > > > > Also, there was a serious rift in the NJ Quaker communities in the > > mid-1700s about the owning of slaves (yes, believe it or not, there were > > Quakers who were slaveholders), and entire families packed up and moved > > south where there was less pressure to give up their slaves. > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > ==== SHARP Mailing List ==== > > > > > > ==== SHARP Mailing List ====

There are Sharp families that have been identified from several countries. As for spelling, it was only in the 20th century that the spelling of names became important to anybody (probably because illiteracy was so common prior to that time because so many were so busy trying to scratch out a living.) Mark Twain has been quoted as saying "I feel sorry for anyone who can only spell a word one way." Karen

Oh, BTW, I just remembered that the carriage driver for Mary Queen of Scots was William Sharp. :o) Priscilla, married to (a) William Sharp

Am looking for descendants of John Thomas SHARP b. 1830 in tennessee. Married 1st to Amanda Francis PARKS. They were in council grove, morris county, kansas. Amanda died in council grove and is buried there. John Thomas SHARP died in pawnee county, oklahoma. Children of JT SHARP and Amanda Francis PARKS SHARP are: Sarah SHARP b. 13 aug. 1856, m. Michael MILLER 15 march 1874 in kansas. Ninjeema SHARP b. ca 1858 in kansas Henry Martin SHARP b. 22 jan. 1861 m. Mary Ann Lincoln BARBER 29 march 1918. John William SHARP b. 21 feb. 1863, d. 27 nov 1945. m. Clara Isabell NEAL. George Willis SHARP b. 20 oct 1865, m. Mary CLARK. America Alice SHARP b. 9 feb 1867, d. may 1900. m. 8 june 1887 to William Douglas ATHEY. Mary " Molly" Elizabeth SHARP b. 28 feb 1870, d. 13 jan 1969, m. 12 dec 1888 to Henry Lee BURTON. Porter Parks SHARP b. 12 april 1871, d. 6 nov. 1942. As far as I know all children were born in the Morris county area of kansas. John Thomas SHARP married 2nd to Eliza Jane WOODS 8 aug. 1874 in council grove, morris county, kansas. J.T. and Eliza had the following children: Norma Truman SHARP b. 8 july 1875 Earnest Robert SHARP b. 15 feb 1877 Bette Ermina SHARP b. 8 mar. 1879, d. 24 march 1969? m. 1st John NESBETT, 2nd John CARR General Hancock SHARP ( my ggrandfather) b. 29 dec 1880 in council grove, morris county, kansas, d 20 may 1932 in blackburn, pawnee county, oklahoma, m. Rebecca (Becky) BEAVER on 4 feb 1904. Inez Irene SHARP b. 5 july 1884 m. Ben CATHER. Samuel Hiram SHARP b. 22 jan 1887 d. 15 jan 1959. m. 15 sept 1937 to Nora Bell TAYLOR. E. Ray Edgar SHARP b. 22 march 1888, d. 1928, buried in IOOF, blackwell, kay county, oklahoma. Amanda Francis SHARP b. 17 oct 1891, m Robert RICH. Roe Elam SHARP b. 12 oct 1895, m. Mrs BLANCH? Any help with the descendants will be appreciated. You can e-mail me directly at [email protected] Thank you. Raylene

I am seeking to identify the parents of Jane Woodward. She married William Sharp in Madison Co., Alabama ca 1817. William Sharp was the born in Kentucky 1798. He was the son of John and Martha Unknown. William and Jane Woodward Sharp had 11 children: John, Eli, Lucinda, Bethina, George, James, William, Hannah, Wilson, Andrew Jackson, and Washington. It is believed that Jane was the sister of John A. and Eli, and the daughter of Hannah. Eli Woodward age 50 and Hannah Woodward age 74 are on the 1850 census in Madison Co. Any help will be appreciated. Sandy Sharp

Spelling means nothing in genealogy. Use the soundex. George A. Sharp, III [email protected] wrote: > > The spelling of Sharpe or Sharp always puzzles me. In our line, most use > the e, but I have seen brothers using different spellings. Any ideas on this? > > My earliest ancestor supposedly was born in Hamburg, Germany, but his father > was a "Hollinder" and his mother Scotch. My grandfather spelled his name > Sharpe. > Rita > > ==== SHARP Mailing List ====

There is some very good information on the Sharps in Union Co., Tn. My husband's Sharp ancestors settled in Bold Valley. A lot of information on Sharp in a book, "To Loy's Cross Roads" I think you can order this book from Union County Historical Society. I got mine from there. Very interesting history of the area, including the Sharps. Thelma Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: Priscilla Sharp <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [SHARP-L] Sharps of Penna. > We are forgetting also that many of the PA German Schaup/Schaub and Dutch > and German Scharf/Scharp families changed their name/spelling to Sharp. > Many of them are known to have migrated south from PA to NC and elsewhere. > I wouldn't rule them out, either. > > Also, there was a serious rift in the NJ Quaker communities in the > mid-1700s about the owning of slaves (yes, believe it or not, there were > Quakers who were slaveholders), and entire families packed up and moved > south where there was less pressure to give up their slaves. > > Priscilla > > > ==== SHARP Mailing List ==== > >

The spelling of Sharpe or Sharp always puzzles me. In our line, most use the e, but I have seen brothers using different spellings. Any ideas on this? My earliest ancestor supposedly was born in Hamburg, Germany, but his father was a "Hollinder" and his mother Scotch. My grandfather spelled his name Sharpe. Rita

This is best read with Eudora 4.3. Apologies for not knowing the History of CANADA. I could blame it on the bat, but ignorance of the facts has led me to wild speculations and theories. The following notes will undoubtedly affect my research, and possibly yours, into the SHARP migrations. Ontario, Canada, HISTORY of from http://www.familysearch.org/sg/Ontario.html The following important events affected political boundaries, record keeping, and family movements. 1784 After the American Revolution large numbers of Loyalists arrived in newly-surveyed townships along the St. Lawrence River in upper Quebec. 1788 Present southern Ontario was divided into four districts: Hesse, Lunenburg, Mecklenburg, and Nassau. 1791 The old Province of Quebec was discontinued and divided into two separate colonies, Lower Canada (now Quebec) and Upper Canada (now Ontario). 1792 The first parliament began. The four original district names were changed: Hesse to Western, Lunenburg to Eastern, Mecklenburg to Midland, Nassau to Home. 1800 Districts were adjusted to include counties established for the purpose of levying militia and as voting precincts and land registration units. Other municipal functions such as probate registration remained with the districts. 1812 At the time war broke out with the United States, two-thirds of the population were non-Loyalists who had been attracted by the offer of free land. 1815 Many immigrants arrived from Scotland. A large number settled in Lanark County. 1820-1850 Many immigrants arrived from Great Britain and Ireland. About 66,000 British immigrants arrived in 1833, some through the port of New York by way of the Eric Canal. In 1847, famine in Ireland caused thousands of immigrants to come. Theodore SHARP, b. 1837, Waterford, Ontario, CANADA Theodore Monroe SHARP, B. 1868,Waterford, Ontario, CANADA An adjustment of thinking based on history provides the following alternative migration sources: 1. 1784 - USA to Quebec, < possible, but unlikely 2. 1812 - Anywhere in CANADA, < possible, but unlikely 3 1815 - Lanark County, Ontario, < possible,but unlikely 4. 1847 - Ireland via New York via Eric (Erie) Canal, < unlikely 5. 1820 -1850 - England. < most likely I am tending to favor the bolded alternatives. My priorities are first-to-last, as follows: . Why? 1. They tended to be English-related. 2. They were not land holder of any significance. 3. They were not Scotish. 4. They were already in CANADA. 5. Their presence in 1837 most closely relates to the 1820-1850 English migrations to CANADA. 1841 The Act of Union established a single combined legislature for Lower Canada (to be called Canada East [Quebec]) and for Upper Canada (called Canada West [Ontario]). 1849 In Canada West (southern Ontario), the counties became functioning governmental units when the old districts were abolished. However, townships within counties remain the basic building block of local government in Ontario until after 1954. 1857 Ottawa became the capital of the Province of Canada. 1867 The Province of Ontario was formed from Canada West and joined the Confederation when the Dominion of Canada was created, uniting Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick. 1912 Provincial boundaries were moved northward to Hudson Bay. 1954 The Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto was created from the southern half of York County, Ontario. 1967 Many additional counties, townships, and other local governments began to be abolished in Ontario as various large "regional municipalities" and other metropolitan governments were created. The 1871 Census of Ontario is at the URL: http://www.archives.ca/index.html It shows (11) SHARPS (7 of ENGLISH) (2 of DUTCH) (and 2 of GERMAN) origin who were various kinds of Methodists. The ages range from 32 years to 71, i.e., births from 1801-1839. I believe these SHARPs could be my relations. Taking the youngest year of birth, 1801, and adding 20 years, yields, 1821. This would closely relate to the beginning of the English migrations of 1820. I believe this to be the best guess of their sources. Also, the location of migrants of English, German, and Dutch ethnicity might orient my thinking to East Anglia. [There was a marriage in 1866 into the family from a relation in East Anglia---a (likely converted Anglican to a) Wesleyan Methodist!] How am I doing? Any further guidance is welcome. So much for the bat! Thanks, Howard H o w a r d R a y L a w r e n c e Penn State url: http://www.personal.psu.edu/hrl/