Russ and Mike, Thank you both ! I checked my secondaries and most of it came from Dedman. Dar "Helen Shannon Conover" only has the year of 1778 listed. Evidently they were married in Virginia as both secondaries (if correct) say Thomas was born and died in Virginia. I will check my resources and see what I can find. I am glad there are others that like to know first hand and have their work proved. Sheila