Andrew, I am on Antrim Co, Ireland e-mail list where people share ideas on how to research your ancestors. I am looking for Cornelius and Mary Shannon of Clogh, Antrim Co. Rita Want to change something, email antrim-owner@irishgenealog.net to get this thread,email antrim-thread1075@irishgenealogy.net To unsubscribe : antrim-unsubscribe@irishgenealogy.net For HELP: antrim-help@irishgenealogy.net More HELP visit: http://irishgenealogy.net/antrimgen.html To visit the FORUM: http://www.irishgenealogy.net/cp/forum/index.php

I am hoping that this list will be able to assist me in finding information on my g.g.g.grandfather and grandmother as all avenues open to me have failed. John Shannon (Land Factor) and Martha McLure (Domestic Servant) were, as far as I know, born in Northern Ireland. These two are listed as the parents of Hugh Shannon who married Margaret Hamilton and settled in Hawick, Roxburghshire. I have not been able to find out if they married and had further children as Hugh Shannon was noted as being illegitimate. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Andrew

Does anyone have any records at all on "Anna" [Anna Lydia Shannon or Shanahan b. 1858 New Brunswick} I can't find anything on the Naturalization records - it appears she came to the US in 1825 and naturalized in 1871. I also can't find anything in the NB birth records - unless I'm not looking in the right place. Connie

Connie, First, can I assume that the letter was dated 1820 rather than 1802? In 1802 Captain James Shannon's first wife Mary Reid was very much alive. He did not marry the widow McClung until 1817. I believe that in the early 1820's Alexander Marrs and his wife Jane Shannon (sister of Captain James Shannon) lived in Shelby County KY where Alexander died in 1822. Her brother Captain James lived in Warren County KY at that time. The letter would seem to be updating Jane's brother back in Virginia on his Kentucky relatives. There were many Reid and Shannon, relatives in both Shelby and Warren Counties at the time. The reference to "Ant Reid" is most likely Captain James's mother-in-law by his 1st marriage to Mary Reid, i.e. Annes Reid. She lived until 1825 and was buried in the Reid & Shannon Graveyard on what had been her husband's farm in Warren Co. While she was a Reid by birth from a Reid family with only minimal ties to the Shannons, her husband James Reid was the brother of Jean Reid (Mrs. Samuel Shannon). As such, she was an Aunt to Jane Marrs, Captain James Reid, and Thomas Shannon of Poplar Hill. The reference to Samuel Reid would be to Mary Reid's (1st wife of Captain James Shannon) brother. Samuel's 1st wife, Elizabeth Roberts (daughter of James Roberts and Agnes Shannon), died 26 March 1820 and was buried in the Reid & Shannon Graveyard on the old James Reid Farm in Warren County, KY. One of my Reid lines is through Samuel and his 2nd wife, Jane Gott. All in all, I don't find anything in the letter to suggest that the widow McClung was a Reid, but then there is nothing here to rule out that possibility. Have a Happy New Year Russ Reid -----Original Message----- From: Connie [mailto:] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:48 PM To: SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHANNON-L] McClung relation The letter is from the "Letters from Home" collection from Mike Shannon. In particular, it is the letter dated April 15, 1802 from Alexander and Jane Marrs to Jane's brother, Thomas Shannon of Poplar Hill. My confusion comes from the statements regarding James and widow McLung's children (actually, his 3 eldest) stating that 2 of them are living with her (widow's) grandmother. But also stating "Ant Reed is alive yet. Samuel Reed's wife is dead". Don't those statements lead you to believe the Widow McClung was a Reid??

Connie, There are afew families that are so intermingled with our Shannons that you have to really pin the connections down to be sure which are which, notably the Marrs, Reids, Crows and Billingsleys. Mike Shannon

The letter is from the "Letters from Home" collection from Mike Shannon. In particular, it is the letter dated April 15, 1802 from Alexander and Jane Marrs to Jane's brother, Thomas Shannon of Poplar Hill. My confusion comes from the statements regarding James and widow McLung's children (actually, his 3 eldest) stating that 2 of them are living with her (widow's) grandmother. But also stating "Ant Reed is alive yet. Samuel Reed's wife is dead". Don't those statements lead you to believe the Widow McClung was a Reid?? Connie, With so many Shannon/Reid marriages, there were lots of "Grandmother Reids". Can you be more specific about who wrote the letter in question, so we can figure out which Reid it might have been?

Connie, With so many Shannon/Reid marriages, there were lots of "Grandmother Reids". Can you be more specific about who wrote the letter in question, so we can figure out which Reid it might have been? Regarding the wives of Captain James Shannon, son of Samuel Shannon and Jean Reid: 1. Mary Reid, daughter of James Reid and Annes Reid was born 29 July 1770 in the Rockfish River Valley of Old Amherst Co., VA (now part of Nelson Co. Her family later removed to Bedford Co., VA, where she married James Shannon on 10 August 1797. Their marriage bond was dated the previous day. They first settled in Williamson Co. Tenn., but eventually moved to Warren Co., KY near her parents. She died there 16 August 1815 and was buried in the Reid & Shannon Graveyard on her parents' farm. She and James had five children who lived to adulthood and married and one daughter who died in infancy at about the time of Mary's death. Mary was survived by her mother, who could have been the Grandmother Reid you refer to. 2. The widow, Mrs. Mary "Polly" McClung, married James Shannon in Warren County 28 January 1817. She and James had an additional eight children. I don't know who her parents were, what her madden name was, or when she was born or died. -----Original Message----- From: Connie [mailto:] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 1:53 PM To: SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SHANNON-L] Shannon letters Ok, now then, wasn't Mary McClung actually Mary Reid?? Because there is a mention of "going to Grandmother Reid's" in one of the letters. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell M. Reid" <r.reid@ix.netcom.com> To: <SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: RE: [SHANNON-L] Shannon letters > Connie, > > Samuel and Jean's son Capt. Thomas Shannon was married to Agnes (aka Nancy) > Crow on 20 January 1778. It was his brother (my ancestor) Capt. James > Shannon who first married Mary Reid (dau. Of James and Annes Reid) and then > married Mary (aka Polly) McClung 28 January 1817 in Warren Co. Kentucky. > > Russ Reid > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie [mailto:] > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:18 PM > To: SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHANNON-L] Shannon letters > > Been going over some stuff gathered from years ago to fill in blanks and > have a question on one of the letters in "The Letters to Home collection". > In a letter dated 1788 from Samuel and Jean Reid Shannon to son Thomas. > Samuel talks about Thomas's wife "Nancy". I thought that Thomas was married > to Mary Reid McClung? > > > >

Connie, Samuel and Jean's son Capt. Thomas Shannon was married to Agnes (aka Nancy) Crow on 20 January 1778. It was his brother (my ancestor) Capt. James Shannon who first married Mary Reid (dau. Of James and Annes Reid) and then married Mary (aka Polly) McClung 28 January 1817 in Warren Co. Kentucky. Russ Reid -----Original Message----- From: Connie [mailto:] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:18 PM To: SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHANNON-L] Shannon letters Been going over some stuff gathered from years ago to fill in blanks and have a question on one of the letters in "The Letters to Home collection". In a letter dated 1788 from Samuel and Jean Reid Shannon to son Thomas. Samuel talks about Thomas's wife "Nancy". I thought that Thomas was married to Mary Reid McClung?

Ok, now then, wasn't Mary McClung actually Mary Reid?? Because there is a mention of "going to Grandmother Reid's" in one of the letters. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell M. Reid" <r.reid@ix.netcom.com> To: <SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: RE: [SHANNON-L] Shannon letters > Connie, > > Samuel and Jean's son Capt. Thomas Shannon was married to Agnes (aka Nancy) > Crow on 20 January 1778. It was his brother (my ancestor) Capt. James > Shannon who first married Mary Reid (dau. Of James and Annes Reid) and then > married Mary (aka Polly) McClung 28 January 1817 in Warren Co. Kentucky. > > Russ Reid > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie [mailto:] > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:18 PM > To: SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHANNON-L] Shannon letters > > Been going over some stuff gathered from years ago to fill in blanks and > have a question on one of the letters in "The Letters to Home collection". > In a letter dated 1788 from Samuel and Jean Reid Shannon to son Thomas. > Samuel talks about Thomas's wife "Nancy". I thought that Thomas was married > to Mary Reid McClung? > > > >

Been going over some stuff gathered from years ago to fill in blanks and have a question on one of the letters in "The Letters to Home collection". In a letter dated 1788 from Samuel and Jean Reid Shannon to son Thomas. Samuel talks about Thomas's wife "Nancy". I thought that Thomas was married to Mary Reid McClung?

Please note at the bottom of the page the actual writer is Wayne Shannon..if you have questions, thoughts or ideas please email Wayne Shannon at the address below. I just had to share this with the Shannon researchers. Great paper Wayne, Sallie -----Original Message----- From: "mhall@infionline.net" <mhall@infionline.net> Sent: Dec 3, 2005 8:12 PM To: minimiahamms3@earthlink.net Cc: osenan@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Shannon History Theory > [Original Message] > From: Sallie <minimiahamms3@earthlink.net> > To: <SHANNON-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 12/2/2005 5:59:55 PM > Subject: Shannon History Theory > > The first reference to our Shannon family, and the information upon which much of our current research is based, can be found in the book of Bracken Genealogy by H.M. Bracken, page 86. "As the Shannons came into the Bracken family again (Martha Bracken, wife of Samuel Shannon, page 87) the following sketch of the Shannons is given: > > (1) John Shannon born in Scotland 1571, moved to Ireland 1602. > > (2) John Shannon, son of above John, born in Scotland 1601. Went with his father to Ireland in 1602. > > (3) Robert Shannon, son of John (2) born 1630. A merchant in Munster, Ireland. He had four sons who migrated America, and settled in Pennsylvania; > > Thomas in Sadsbury twp. Lancaster Co. Will filed 1737. > > William in Sadsbury twp. Lancaster Co. Will filed 1741. > > Robert in Norriton twp. Montgomery Co. Will filed 1747. > > Andrew in Strahan twp. York Co. Will filed 1761. > > The Shannons were Protestants." > > > > Here then is the basis upon which our journey begins, and upon which we have many conflicting inferences or reports as to what the "facts" are. One such report of the births of the four brothers is found on Pennsylvania microfiche stating that the above Thomas was born in 1652, William in 1654, Robert in 1656, and Andrew in 1658, all in Pennsylvania. How does one migrate from Ireland to America to then be born in America? From The Shannon Family of East TN website, we find that Robert (II) was born in 1667 instead of 1656. In another website, under RootsWeb and in the Clift/Byers-Ingalsbe/Dailey site, we find that the above Thomas Shannon was born in 1687 in Ulster District, Londonderry, Ireland, and that his wife Eigness (Agnes) Reid was born 1704 in Northern Ireland. In the Giles County, Virginia History-Families, 1982, we find "Shannon of Poplar Hill; Thomas Shannon was born about 1676 in Londonderry, Ire."; while still another researcher reports that he was born in M! > unster. The Shannon of Poplar Hill account states that Thomas' wife Agnes was born in Ireland about 1686. So now we have the births ranging as follows; Robert 1656 Pa.-1667; Thomas 1652 Pa.-1676/1687 Londonderry or Munster; and Thomas' wife Eigness 1686-1704 Northern Ireland. > > > > Although the dates of the births of the four brothers could conceivably work, the report of them being born in the 1650s may be a stretch. If indeed Robert (I) was born in 1630, having children already at age 21 or 22 would seem early. Men at that time were conscripted into the fighting legions for the King. We do find a Robert Shannon listed as such in the book The Scotch-Irish by Charles Hanna 1902 under a proclamation by "The Commissioners for the settling and securing the Province of Ulster; dated at Carrickfergus, the 23rd of May 1653, Robert Shannon, Antrim Quarters." Whether or not this is our Robert Shannon we may never know, however, men at that time and age would be required to make themselves ready for warfare. Expecting our Robert to ignore this decree and have a family at such an early age instead would seem unlikely. Almost as unlikely is Robert having children into his late fifties. Again it is not outside the realm of possibilities, but again how likel! > y is it? Another sticking point is in the Shannon Family of East TN website stating that Robert was born in 1630 in Munster. Reports that he was a merchant in Munster does not necessarily give issue to his being born there. The proclamation referred to above in the Hanna book states on page 604 that "A proclamation was published by the Commissioners for the settling and securing the Province of Ulster, specifying the conditions on which it was proposed to transplant the leading Presbyterians in the counties of Down and Antrim to certain districts in Munster." Our Shannons were Presbyterians, and this clue would certainly fit the bill. It also explains why Robert may have relocated to Munster instead of being born there. > > > > Which of these statements, then, is fact? How can anyone state the birth date or place if not based on a recorded fact. We must separate inferences from fact. Was Thomas born in 1652, 1676, or 1687? At most only one of these can be fact. How can the others even be suggested? Eigness was born in either 1686 or 1704; quite a span of time and at least one has to be an inference. Another set of "facts" lists the Shannons as sailing out of Londonderry on the ship the Thomas and Jane, while still another claims they sailed out of Larne on the ship Friends Goodwill. > > > > So what facts do we have? Using the Bracken genealogy as a basis for our research, we can only list what we find in the records. Here is what the records show. Will Books & Intestate Records, Lancaster Co., Pa., page 42 shows Thomas Shannon's will filed 1737 in book A, Volume 1, page 26; and William Shannon's will filed in 1742 in book A, Volume 1, page 69. The Lancaster, Pennsylvania Historical Society Library has a copy of the inventory of Thomas Shannon's estate upon his death. It is dated April the 26th, 1737. The Bureau of Land Records- Old Rights in Harrisburg, Pa., state archives building shows warrant #45 for one Thomas Shannon of near Octorara Creek having a survey of 200 acres of land dated 4 June 1734, and William Shannon having a survey of 200 acres in warrant #193 in West Sadsbury on November 10, 1737. The Index to 1718-1726 Tax Records Chester Co. Pa., Volume 4, section 1, page 46 shows Thomas Shannon on the Sadberry & Fallowfield rate in 1725. So the S! > hannons were definitely here by the 1720's. > > > > In Ireland we find John Shannons in; (1) Ros Davies' County Down parish information in Donaghmore parish at Tullymore whose will was probated in 1717, (2) in the Hamilton Estates, farmland holders in 1681, and 1688 County Down, (3) in County Armagh in Scotch-Irish Pioneers by Bolton in 1704 in Tandrogee, (4) in County Antrim Hearth Money Rolls of 1669 in Antrim town. > > > > We find Robert Shannons in; (1) Londonderry as a High Sheriff of Londonderry in 1680, (2) in the Londonderry 1631 Muster Rolls, (3) listed as an attendee at the Londonderry Mayor's address of 16 June, 1690 read in Belfast, (4) in the Declaration by the Commissioners for the settling and securing the Province of Ulster in Carrickfergus, County Antrim 23 May, 1653 to be sent to Munster, (5) in County Fermanagh at Enniskillen in The Scotch-Irish or the Scot in North Britain, Northern Ireland, and North America, (6) in Leighlin Wills in County Kildare in 1719 in Halverstown. > > > > There are also Shannons listed in (1) Civil Survey of 1654 in the Parish of Lifford, and in the Parish of Raphoe in County Donegal, (2) as a minister in County Down in Ballyphilip Parish in Portaferry in 1697, (3) in the Scotch-Irish, Hanna, as an able fighter under Montgomery, (4) in the Scotch-Irish, Bill and Mary Durning, page 175 as protestant in county Sligo, Easky Parish, and on page 116 in county Sligo in Kilglass Parish. > > > > With the confirmed date of 1725 showing Thomas Shannon in Pennsylvania, and the approximate dates in 1680's with the births of either or both Thomas and Eigness in Ireland, we can conclude that they immigrated between those times. Other than that, what really do we have that definitively points to our Shannon's? Nothing. So then what clues can we use to form a theory as to the immigration and location of the Shannons in Ireland? If we can associate them with others who are better documented in the records, we can perhaps improve our chances of finding land that the Shannons owned and stood on back in the "Old Sod". > > > > THEORY I > One possible theory that was suggested to me by Gloria Shannon of Arizona can be formed by realizing that in those times religion was the center focus and main force in everyone's lives. One did not support a King or Queen on political grounds, but by what religion they adhered to. The Shannon's were Presbyterian and lived near the Octorara Creek in Chester County, Pennsylvania, later becoming Lancaster County. "BUREAU OF LAND RECORDS-OLD RIGHTS" LDS-362, Roll #1,4 shows on warrant #45, Thomas Shannon with 200 acres "Nr Octorara Creek" dated 4 June, 1734. Thomas' son John is shown on warrant #175 as having 50 acres in West Sadsbury adjoining his father Thos' land. In "THE SCOTCH-IRISH", by Charles Hanna, on page 103 under Colonial Presbyterian Churches on Pennsylvania and Delaware, we find the three Presbyterian Churches in the Chester-Lancaster County area. They were; Upper Octorara, Sadsbury township, Pequa, Salisbury township, and Middle Octorara, Bart township. On ! > page 40 of the Hanna book, Alexander Craighead is reported to have "gathered together all of his followers at Middle Octorara in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, and led them in a renewal of the Covenants." In "BIOGRAPHIES OF EARLY PRESBYTERIANS, Pa. and Va." Thomas Craighead is recorded as, "In 1733 Mr. Craighead removed to Lancaster co. Pa. and in September of that year he received and accepted a call to Pequea, where he was installed October 31st." The first pastor of the Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church was Adam Boyd from County Antrim, Ireland. Mr. Boyd married Jane Craighead, daughter of Rev. Thomas Craighead. > > > > So here we find The Craigheads and family ministering at various times in all three Presbyterian Churches that were located where the Shannons lived. We also know that the Craigheads were important in the lives of the Shannons for as some of the Shannons later moved on down into Virginia, so did the Rev. Alexander Craighead. Alexander was also mentioned in a Shannon will. > > > > Entire congregations tended to migrate together for support and protection of their religious beliefs both here in America and back in Ireland. In THE SCOTCH-IRISH by Charles Hanna, volume 2, we find "Holmes's account of America,..induced the greater part of (tenants), comprising four or more Presbyterian congregations, to prepare for emigration to America." To straight-line this theory then, we can imagine that the Shannons may have immigrated with the congregations that Thomas Craighead brought over from Ireland, and we do know from which county the Reverend Craighead came. > > > > IMMIGRANTS TO NEW ENGLAND 1700-1775, Craighead, Rev. Thomas, of Freetown, Mass; came from Donegal, Ireland in 1715". A HISTORY OF CONGREGATIONS IN THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN IRELAND 1610-1982, Presbyterian Historical Society, Belfast, Northern Ireland, on page 388 states "Donegal: First, This congregation was formerly called Rathneeny. It was receiving supplies by the Laggan Presbytery as early as 1672.In March 1698 the congregation here presented a call to Mr. Thomas Craighead, and promised to advance half a year's salary towards defraying the charge of transporting his family from Scotland (he had traveled to Edinburgh for his education). On page 395 his father Robert Craighead was found in "Donoughmore: Co. Donegal, the first minister of this congregation was Mr. Robert Craighead who was settled here in 1658." IRISH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FASTI, 469-914 also at the Presbyterian Historical Society lists Thomas as number 613, "s of No. 611 (Robert Craighead); ed. Edin. M.A! > . (Edin.) 1691; Lic. Laggan (Strabane) Pres. 1698; ord (at Ballintra) Donegal & Castlederg (1st) 6th July 1698; res. Donegal & retained Castlederg 1710; res 1715; em to New England;" SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS, Bolton, page 271 states "the Scotch Irish migration of Presbyterians to Chester Co. (Pa) began in 1719." Page 272 states, "The place names in Old Chester Co. Pa, such as Donegal, Derry, and Toboyne, suggest that the early immigrants came for the most part from lands west of the River Foyle." The Craigheads as we can see were located in County Donegal before emigration to the new world and many of the Presbyterians in southeast Pennsylvania were from that part of Ireland. Could our Shannons have been in one of these congregations? The local church records there are not extensive prior to the early 1800's. The current minister of the Donegal church is Reverend Steven Richmond. His records on Donegal do not extend past 1811. Records on Castlederg go back to 1823, Ball! > yshannon 1836, and Londonderry to 1809. So I was unable to find reference to any Shannons at all on my trip in late 2005. We can still explore church vestry minutes which are on microfilm and hard to read. Another possibility would be that the Church of England could have some records since it was the only "official" church. > > > > As to the emigration of these congregations we can look in; THE SCOTCH-IRISH, Charles Hanna, volume 2, page 16-17; "Thomas Craighead.among the first ministers thus self-banished (from Ireland).came to America in 1715. .settled at Assonet (Freetown), Bristol County, Massachusetts, where he remained for eight years, removing thence to Pennsylvania." THE CRAIGHEAD FAMILY VA-MO, Dave Casto, "Rev. Thomas Craighead b. ca. 1664-1739, wife Margaret, landed at Boston. Mass., in the first week of Oct. 1714 in the ship "Thomas & Jane" Wm Wilson master." SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS, Bolton, page 82 states, "The Rev. William Homes and his brother-in-law the Rev. Thomas Craighead, with their families, arrived in Boston the first week in October, 1714, from Londonderry, on the ship "Thomas and Jane" of which Mr. William Wilson was then master. Homes brought four written testimonials from the elders and overseers of his congregation at Strabane". In the IRISH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FASTI 469-9! > 14 record in the Presbyterian Historical Society, Craghead, Thomas; em to New England; in Freetown, Mass. 1715; res. 1723; in White Clay Creek, Delaware 22nd Sept 1724; res 1733; in Pequea 31st Oct 1733; res. Sept 1736; in Hopewell Oct 1738; d. in pulpit Apr. 1739." So we have several Presbyterian congregations immigrating to America in either 1714 or 1715 with the Craighead people eventually moving to Chester/Lancaster County, Pa. This theory has some merit and should certainly be considered. It is, however, not conclusive leaving the door open for other scenarios. > > > > THEORY II > A small chink in the armor of the above theory lies in the report that Thomas Craighead was ministering at White Clay Creek, Delaware until 1733. The Shannons as we have seen were in Lancaster/Chester County Pennsylvania in 1725. And even though these areas are closely located, it suggests that the Shannons may have possibly not been under the ministering of Thomas Craighead during that span of time. If the Reverend Craighead joined the existing congregation that the Shannons belonged to, what other scenario might we weave? > > > > Thomas Shannon's wife's name was Eigness, later designated as Agnes. We have reports that her maiden name was Reid. The Reid name appears again when Samuel Shannon, son of Thomas and Eigness, marries Jean Reid. Here is a related family that also has a history that could possibly be conjoined to ours. We have reports that a Thomas Reid was born ca. 1677, County Down, Ireland, and d. 22 Feb. 1732, Octorara twp. Lancaster Co. Pa. (where our Shannons lived and during the same time period). Thomas came to the colonies along with his brothers John, and Andrew. The father of these three brothers was Alexander Reid, b. 1657, Ireland. D. Co. Down. His father was Andrew Reid, b. 1632 Ireland. His father Andrew Reid b. 1600, Scotland, and his father John Reid b. 1574 also in Scotland. How closely do the timelines of these two families correspond? Thomas Shannon and Thomas Reid both were born in Ireland, and lived in Octorara Township Lancaster County Pennsylvania at the same! > time and died there in the 1730's. The second Andrew Reid was born 1632, with Robert Shannon being born in 1630, both in Ireland. Their fathers, Andrew Reid and John Shannon, were born a year apart in Scotland, with their fathers being born three years apart also in Scotland. Is this a simple coincidence, or a solid connection? This needs to be pursued. > > > > I have put forth two theories that could lead us to the discovery of our Shannons in Ireland. I have tried to not infer anything after the H.M. Bracken book. Not many facts have yet been found, but we can work on educated guesses from clues from related peoples. The first order of business would be to investigate the Bracken book to find his sources that would solidify our assumed history up to this point. I fully intend to stand on Shannon land in Ireland some day, hopefully along with many of you. Let me know what you think of this paper. > > > > Wayne Shannon > > 915 10th Ave. > > Vinton, IA 52349 > > 319-472-5393 > > osenan@hotmail.com > > " LISTEN WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE" > > MAYA ANGELOU

The first reference to our Shannon family, and the information upon which much of our current research is based, can be found in the book of Bracken Genealogy by H.M. Bracken, page 86. "As the Shannons came into the Bracken family again (Martha Bracken, wife of Samuel Shannon, page 87) the following sketch of the Shannons is given: (1) John Shannon born in Scotland 1571, moved to Ireland 1602. (2) John Shannon, son of above John, born in Scotland 1601. Went with his father to Ireland in 1602. (3) Robert Shannon, son of John (2) born 1630. A merchant in Munster, Ireland. He had four sons who migrated America, and settled in Pennsylvania; Thomas in Sadsbury twp. Lancaster Co. Will filed 1737. William in Sadsbury twp. Lancaster Co. Will filed 1741. Robert in Norriton twp. Montgomery Co. Will filed 1747. Andrew in Strahan twp. York Co. Will filed 1761. The Shannons were Protestants." Here then is the basis upon which our journey begins, and upon which we have many conflicting inferences or reports as to what the "facts" are. One such report of the births of the four brothers is found on Pennsylvania microfiche stating that the above Thomas was born in 1652, William in 1654, Robert in 1656, and Andrew in 1658, all in Pennsylvania. How does one migrate from Ireland to America to then be born in America? From The Shannon Family of East TN website, we find that Robert (II) was born in 1667 instead of 1656. In another website, under RootsWeb and in the Clift/Byers-Ingalsbe/Dailey site, we find that the above Thomas Shannon was born in 1687 in Ulster District, Londonderry, Ireland, and that his wife Eigness (Agnes) Reid was born 1704 in Northern Ireland. In the Giles County, Virginia History-Families, 1982, we find "Shannon of Poplar Hill; Thomas Shannon was born about 1676 in Londonderry, Ire."; while still another researcher reports that he was born in M! unster. The Shannon of Poplar Hill account states that Thomas' wife Agnes was born in Ireland about 1686. So now we have the births ranging as follows; Robert 1656 Pa.-1667; Thomas 1652 Pa.-1676/1687 Londonderry or Munster; and Thomas' wife Eigness 1686-1704 Northern Ireland. Although the dates of the births of the four brothers could conceivably work, the report of them being born in the 1650s may be a stretch. If indeed Robert (I) was born in 1630, having children already at age 21 or 22 would seem early. Men at that time were conscripted into the fighting legions for the King. We do find a Robert Shannon listed as such in the book The Scotch-Irish by Charles Hanna 1902 under a proclamation by "The Commissioners for the settling and securing the Province of Ulster; dated at Carrickfergus, the 23rd of May 1653, Robert Shannon, Antrim Quarters." Whether or not this is our Robert Shannon we may never know, however, men at that time and age would be required to make themselves ready for warfare. Expecting our Robert to ignore this decree and have a family at such an early age instead would seem unlikely. Almost as unlikely is Robert having children into his late fifties. Again it is not outside the realm of possibilities, but again how likel! y is it? Another sticking point is in the Shannon Family of East TN website stating that Robert was born in 1630 in Munster. Reports that he was a merchant in Munster does not necessarily give issue to his being born there. The proclamation referred to above in the Hanna book states on page 604 that "A proclamation was published by the Commissioners for the settling and securing the Province of Ulster, specifying the conditions on which it was proposed to transplant the leading Presbyterians in the counties of Down and Antrim to certain districts in Munster." Our Shannons were Presbyterians, and this clue would certainly fit the bill. It also explains why Robert may have relocated to Munster instead of being born there. Which of these statements, then, is fact? How can anyone state the birth date or place if not based on a recorded fact. We must separate inferences from fact. Was Thomas born in 1652, 1676, or 1687? At most only one of these can be fact. How can the others even be suggested? Eigness was born in either 1686 or 1704; quite a span of time and at least one has to be an inference. Another set of "facts" lists the Shannons as sailing out of Londonderry on the ship the Thomas and Jane, while still another claims they sailed out of Larne on the ship Friends Goodwill. So what facts do we have? Using the Bracken genealogy as a basis for our research, we can only list what we find in the records. Here is what the records show. Will Books & Intestate Records, Lancaster Co., Pa., page 42 shows Thomas Shannon's will filed 1737 in book A, Volume 1, page 26; and William Shannon's will filed in 1742 in book A, Volume 1, page 69. The Lancaster, Pennsylvania Historical Society Library has a copy of the inventory of Thomas Shannon's estate upon his death. It is dated April the 26th, 1737. The Bureau of Land Records- Old Rights in Harrisburg, Pa., state archives building shows warrant #45 for one Thomas Shannon of near Octorara Creek having a survey of 200 acres of land dated 4 June 1734, and William Shannon having a survey of 200 acres in warrant #193 in West Sadsbury on November 10, 1737. The Index to 1718-1726 Tax Records Chester Co. Pa., Volume 4, section 1, page 46 shows Thomas Shannon on the Sadberry & Fallowfield rate in 1725. So the S! hannons were definitely here by the 1720's. In Ireland we find John Shannons in; (1) Ros Davies' County Down parish information in Donaghmore parish at Tullymore whose will was probated in 1717, (2) in the Hamilton Estates, farmland holders in 1681, and 1688 County Down, (3) in County Armagh in Scotch-Irish Pioneers by Bolton in 1704 in Tandrogee, (4) in County Antrim Hearth Money Rolls of 1669 in Antrim town. We find Robert Shannons in; (1) Londonderry as a High Sheriff of Londonderry in 1680, (2) in the Londonderry 1631 Muster Rolls, (3) listed as an attendee at the Londonderry Mayor's address of 16 June, 1690 read in Belfast, (4) in the Declaration by the Commissioners for the settling and securing the Province of Ulster in Carrickfergus, County Antrim 23 May, 1653 to be sent to Munster, (5) in County Fermanagh at Enniskillen in The Scotch-Irish or the Scot in North Britain, Northern Ireland, and North America, (6) in Leighlin Wills in County Kildare in 1719 in Halverstown. There are also Shannons listed in (1) Civil Survey of 1654 in the Parish of Lifford, and in the Parish of Raphoe in County Donegal, (2) as a minister in County Down in Ballyphilip Parish in Portaferry in 1697, (3) in the Scotch-Irish, Hanna, as an able fighter under Montgomery, (4) in the Scotch-Irish, Bill and Mary Durning, page 175 as protestant in county Sligo, Easky Parish, and on page 116 in county Sligo in Kilglass Parish. With the confirmed date of 1725 showing Thomas Shannon in Pennsylvania, and the approximate dates in 1680's with the births of either or both Thomas and Eigness in Ireland, we can conclude that they immigrated between those times. Other than that, what really do we have that definitively points to our Shannon's? Nothing. So then what clues can we use to form a theory as to the immigration and location of the Shannons in Ireland? If we can associate them with others who are better documented in the records, we can perhaps improve our chances of finding land that the Shannons owned and stood on back in the "Old Sod". THEORY I One possible theory that was suggested to me by Gloria Shannon of Arizona can be formed by realizing that in those times religion was the center focus and main force in everyone's lives. One did not support a King or Queen on political grounds, but by what religion they adhered to. The Shannon's were Presbyterian and lived near the Octorara Creek in Chester County, Pennsylvania, later becoming Lancaster County. "BUREAU OF LAND RECORDS-OLD RIGHTS" LDS-362, Roll #1,4 shows on warrant #45, Thomas Shannon with 200 acres "Nr Octorara Creek" dated 4 June, 1734. Thomas' son John is shown on warrant #175 as having 50 acres in West Sadsbury adjoining his father Thos' land. In "THE SCOTCH-IRISH", by Charles Hanna, on page 103 under Colonial Presbyterian Churches on Pennsylvania and Delaware, we find the three Presbyterian Churches in the Chester-Lancaster County area. They were; Upper Octorara, Sadsbury township, Pequa, Salisbury township, and Middle Octorara, Bart township. On ! page 40 of the Hanna book, Alexander Craighead is reported to have "gathered together all of his followers at Middle Octorara in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, and led them in a renewal of the Covenants." In "BIOGRAPHIES OF EARLY PRESBYTERIANS, Pa. and Va." Thomas Craighead is recorded as, "In 1733 Mr. Craighead removed to Lancaster co. Pa. and in September of that year he received and accepted a call to Pequea, where he was installed October 31st." The first pastor of the Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church was Adam Boyd from County Antrim, Ireland. Mr. Boyd married Jane Craighead, daughter of Rev. Thomas Craighead. So here we find The Craigheads and family ministering at various times in all three Presbyterian Churches that were located where the Shannons lived. We also know that the Craigheads were important in the lives of the Shannons for as some of the Shannons later moved on down into Virginia, so did the Rev. Alexander Craighead. Alexander was also mentioned in a Shannon will. Entire congregations tended to migrate together for support and protection of their religious beliefs both here in America and back in Ireland. In THE SCOTCH-IRISH by Charles Hanna, volume 2, we find "Holmes's account of America,..induced the greater part of (tenants), comprising four or more Presbyterian congregations, to prepare for emigration to America." To straight-line this theory then, we can imagine that the Shannons may have immigrated with the congregations that Thomas Craighead brought over from Ireland, and we do know from which county the Reverend Craighead came. IMMIGRANTS TO NEW ENGLAND 1700-1775, Craighead, Rev. Thomas, of Freetown, Mass; came from Donegal, Ireland in 1715". A HISTORY OF CONGREGATIONS IN THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN IRELAND 1610-1982, Presbyterian Historical Society, Belfast, Northern Ireland, on page 388 states "Donegal: First, This congregation was formerly called Rathneeny. It was receiving supplies by the Laggan Presbytery as early as 1672.In March 1698 the congregation here presented a call to Mr. Thomas Craighead, and promised to advance half a year's salary towards defraying the charge of transporting his family from Scotland (he had traveled to Edinburgh for his education). On page 395 his father Robert Craighead was found in "Donoughmore: Co. Donegal, the first minister of this congregation was Mr. Robert Craighead who was settled here in 1658." IRISH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FASTI, 469-914 also at the Presbyterian Historical Society lists Thomas as number 613, "s of No. 611 (Robert Craighead); ed. Edin. M.A! . (Edin.) 1691; Lic. Laggan (Strabane) Pres. 1698; ord (at Ballintra) Donegal & Castlederg (1st) 6th July 1698; res. Donegal & retained Castlederg 1710; res 1715; em to New England;" SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS, Bolton, page 271 states "the Scotch Irish migration of Presbyterians to Chester Co. (Pa) began in 1719." Page 272 states, "The place names in Old Chester Co. Pa, such as Donegal, Derry, and Toboyne, suggest that the early immigrants came for the most part from lands west of the River Foyle." The Craigheads as we can see were located in County Donegal before emigration to the new world and many of the Presbyterians in southeast Pennsylvania were from that part of Ireland. Could our Shannons have been in one of these congregations? The local church records there are not extensive prior to the early 1800's. The current minister of the Donegal church is Reverend Steven Richmond. His records on Donegal do not extend past 1811. Records on Castlederg go back to 1823, Ball! yshannon 1836, and Londonderry to 1809. So I was unable to find reference to any Shannons at all on my trip in late 2005. We can still explore church vestry minutes which are on microfilm and hard to read. Another possibility would be that the Church of England could have some records since it was the only "official" church. As to the emigration of these congregations we can look in; THE SCOTCH-IRISH, Charles Hanna, volume 2, page 16-17; "Thomas Craighead.among the first ministers thus self-banished (from Ireland).came to America in 1715. .settled at Assonet (Freetown), Bristol County, Massachusetts, where he remained for eight years, removing thence to Pennsylvania." THE CRAIGHEAD FAMILY VA-MO, Dave Casto, "Rev. Thomas Craighead b. ca. 1664-1739, wife Margaret, landed at Boston. Mass., in the first week of Oct. 1714 in the ship "Thomas & Jane" Wm Wilson master." SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS, Bolton, page 82 states, "The Rev. William Homes and his brother-in-law the Rev. Thomas Craighead, with their families, arrived in Boston the first week in October, 1714, from Londonderry, on the ship "Thomas and Jane" of which Mr. William Wilson was then master. Homes brought four written testimonials from the elders and overseers of his congregation at Strabane". In the IRISH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FASTI 469-9! 14 record in the Presbyterian Historical Society, Craghead, Thomas; em to New England; in Freetown, Mass. 1715; res. 1723; in White Clay Creek, Delaware 22nd Sept 1724; res 1733; in Pequea 31st Oct 1733; res. Sept 1736; in Hopewell Oct 1738; d. in pulpit Apr. 1739." So we have several Presbyterian congregations immigrating to America in either 1714 or 1715 with the Craighead people eventually moving to Chester/Lancaster County, Pa. This theory has some merit and should certainly be considered. It is, however, not conclusive leaving the door open for other scenarios. THEORY II A small chink in the armor of the above theory lies in the report that Thomas Craighead was ministering at White Clay Creek, Delaware until 1733. The Shannons as we have seen were in Lancaster/Chester County Pennsylvania in 1725. And even though these areas are closely located, it suggests that the Shannons may have possibly not been under the ministering of Thomas Craighead during that span of time. If the Reverend Craighead joined the existing congregation that the Shannons belonged to, what other scenario might we weave? Thomas Shannon's wife's name was Eigness, later designated as Agnes. We have reports that her maiden name was Reid. The Reid name appears again when Samuel Shannon, son of Thomas and Eigness, marries Jean Reid. Here is a related family that also has a history that could possibly be conjoined to ours. We have reports that a Thomas Reid was born ca. 1677, County Down, Ireland, and d. 22 Feb. 1732, Octorara twp. Lancaster Co. Pa. (where our Shannons lived and during the same time period). Thomas came to the colonies along with his brothers John, and Andrew. The father of these three brothers was Alexander Reid, b. 1657, Ireland. D. Co. Down. His father was Andrew Reid, b. 1632 Ireland. His father Andrew Reid b. 1600, Scotland, and his father John Reid b. 1574 also in Scotland. How closely do the timelines of these two families correspond? Thomas Shannon and Thomas Reid both were born in Ireland, and lived in Octorara Township Lancaster County Pennsylvania at the same! time and died there in the 1730's. The second Andrew Reid was born 1632, with Robert Shannon being born in 1630, both in Ireland. Their fathers, Andrew Reid and John Shannon, were born a year apart in Scotland, with their fathers being born three years apart also in Scotland. Is this a simple coincidence, or a solid connection? This needs to be pursued. I have put forth two theories that could lead us to the discovery of our Shannons in Ireland. I have tried to not infer anything after the H.M. Bracken book. Not many facts have yet been found, but we can work on educated guesses from clues from related peoples. The first order of business would be to investigate the Bracken book to find his sources that would solidify our assumed history up to this point. I fully intend to stand on Shannon land in Ireland some day, hopefully along with many of you. Let me know what you think of this paper. Wayne Shannon 915 10th Ave. Vinton, IA 52349 319-472-5393 osenan@hotmail.com " LISTEN WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE" MAYA ANGELOU

I have been researching the BOYD lineage that crosses our SHANNON'S in the early-mid 1800s in Quebec. Joseph Boyd 1844-1921 married Elizabeth Ruth Shannon 1844-1925 and both are buried in the old Anglican church on the hill overlooking Arundel, Quebec. Their lineage extends across Canada with the following surnames: Boyd, Bennett, Champagne, DuBeau, Elliot, Halcox, Hammond, Hiscock, Kester, Poole, Simon, Stapleton, Williams I will share whatever information and photographs I have with anyone related to these lines. Thank you!! Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, CA Researching: New York: Jefferson County: Dorchester, Perkins, Van Schaick, Truax Michigan: Saginaw County, MI: (Hemlock-Richland Township) Perkins, (Jonesfield Township-Merrill) Warner, Gauley, Shannon, Genesee County, MI: (Flushing Township) Warner, Sundell Gratoit County, MI: (Wheeler) Ault, Gauley, Gillie, Pinkerton, Shannon Washtenaw County: Ault and descendants Quebec, Canada: Argentiul County, Quebec, Canada; Arundel, Grenville, LaChute, Rawcliffe: Lowe, Shannon, Gauley, Gillie, Ivall, DeRiviere, Boyd, Stapleton. Washington State: Gray's Harbor and King County, Washington: Perkins, Stevens. Jorgenson And anywhere else good information can be found!

I am still looking for any information on my GG Grandmother Lucinda Shannon. Was married to Henry Langston and she died sometime after my g grandmother was born (1878) but before 1880. She may have been married before. She died in Arkansas, probably around Yellville. (Searcy County, Baxter County Izard County, Marion County)? Do any of the Arkansas Shannon's have any Cherokee connections? Thanks so much gary

In a message dated 10/30/2005 7:19:40 am Central Standard Time, BClayShannon@aol.com writes: My father is a Shannon; my mother's maiden name was Green. Albert Kollenborn and Alice (Green) Kollenborn gave birth to my mother Rosie Lee Kollenborn, who married Theodore R. Shannon. I meant to write "My GRANDmother's maiden name was Green." Clay Shannon Download Blackbird Crow Raven's book "STILL CASTING SHADOWS: Two American Families 1620-2006" here: _http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?22000000036712_ (http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?22000000036712)

It doesn't seem there's a direct connection here, but at least a coincidence: My father is a Shannon; my mother's maiden name was Green. Albert Kollenborn and Alice (Green) Kollenborn gave birth to my mother Rosie Lee Kollenborn, who married Theodore R. Shannon. Clay Shannon Download Blackbird Crow Raven's book "STILL CASTING SHADOWS: Two American Families 1620-2006" here: _http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?22000000036712_ (http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?22000000036712)

I am going to forward this to the Shannon list. ----- Original Message ----- From: ljfmr01@cebridge.net To: jimmykerr@the-i.net Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: shannon family I just stumbled onto your website and am excited to see a familiar name from Stone County, AR. My grandmother's name was Eliza Shannon ( married to Walter Green) there were twin sisters, Leta and Lana , and brothers but I don't know the names. I remember my dad speaking of Jeff , Robert and Thomas Shannon. The log cabin featured at the Ozark Folk Center in Mountain View was built by my dad's uncle. I'm sorry I don't have much information. I've become interested recently and have made several trips to Mountain View. It was nice to see your information. Linda Johnson

Hi, This is not my direct line, but I am sure someone on the Shannon list on Rootsweb would want to know more on this line. Are you subscribed to the Shannon list? Jimmy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danella" <dd410243@cox.net> To: <jimmyk@bigfoot.com> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Shannon family Dear Mr. Kerr, I found your information on Ancestry.com for George Washington Shannon b. 14 June 1842. Mr. Shannon was an early settler in Lubbock County, a Confederate Veteran and the first county judge. I have quite a bit of information on him if you are interested. Danella Dickson Lubbock, TX

Gideon was his first name.I found a lady in Blackford Co,Indiana that found a little information about him.She had information about the settlement of his "estate".I think she said it was worth $41 and some odd cents.It was recorded on May 23,1887 so he died shortly before that.His wife Angeline was the only person mentioned which we thought was odd since he had children.I have found my folder for this family.Gideon married my ggrandmother Susannah Smith Garrison(Garretson) in Jay Co,Indiana Oct.11,1858.They were in Jay Co 1860 with my grandad Reed Garrison(Reid Garretson)8 and a new baby Amon 1.Then 1870 Blackford Co,In.Gideon is 31,Susan 38,Reid Garrison 18,Amon B 11,Lucinda 9,Charles L 7 and Arron 6.Gideon W Shannon married Angelline E.Allen Blackford Co,In Dec 11,1875.In 1880 Blackford Co Gideon 57,Angeline 33,Amon B 20,Aaron C 12,William E 3 and John F.8mos.I found Aaron and Amon on family search last night and Aaron had gone to Ks where he died.It gave their mother as Angeline.I wonder if any of them remembered or told their children that Susannah was their mother? If anyone knows anything of these children I would love to find any descendants.I have family still in Blackford Co and will be going up there next Saturday.They have moved and old church next to their library and are having a fund raiser to help rentavate it.I am not sure what the church was and I don't remember it at all.What I have been told that it was used by the hardware store for storage for many years.I am hoping to find more about this Shannon family while I am there.They lady I talked with said there are still Shannons there.I had a Tom Shannon in my class for eleven years.It would be a big suprise if he were my cousin.I'll let you all know if I find anything. Thanks for listening, Jeany Garrison Roark

Jeany, I see you have Gideon W. Shannon, I don't know if you know that Gideon, Gidden and Giddens are related. You may chech out the last spelling, Giddens sites. Good luck, Myrtle