Hi Joyce,, My grandfather is James Aloysius Shannon who was born 26 september 1902 in Bundaleer Springs nr Jamestown in south Australia, his parents are William Percival Shannon and Catherine Honora Kerin , William Percival was born 7th january 1871 and died 17th january 1917 , he is buried at Hawker in South Australia, Wiliam and Catherine were married at St James Catholic Church in Jamestown South Australia in 1900, Now the part im stuck on!!!! William Percival's father is William Shannon, he married Catherine Brigit Fitzgerald (nee O'Goorman) !! That is all i have on this William, i dont know which county they came from or even when they came to Australia. Any help would be great Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: <JSBRIDG@aol.com> To: <shannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [SHANNON] test message > Louise...........give us some names, places & dates to see if you connect > with anyone. > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a company that is doing a database for all names. I have nothing to do with them other than sending my sample to them. It was free and although you dont get the results sent to you they will be put in the database and you can search them. The web site gives full explanation of it all. If anyone is interested this is the web site, http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx Jo :) http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jo14 I use Archive CD Books to do my family history research http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=18 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Shannon" <vasshannon@yahoo.com> To: <shannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [SHANNON] Shannon & DNA >I am hardly an expert but males carry the Y chromosone > which passed father to son. The mutations in Y occur > slowly and they can tell you likelihood of how many > generations there are between two samples (so if there > are relatively close matches between different Shannon > groups they share a relative at whatever degree that > might be. I haven't done the X research yet but > intend to, it goes the other way, mother's mother etc. > If you wanted to research your father's line, you > would have to have a male relative provide the sample > (male cousin, brother, uncle, etc.) > > In my case where I believe my great great grandfather > William is the brother of Alexander Shannnon who has > documentation back to Zachariah and Priscilla in > Charles County, Maryland, I need a direct descendent > to take the DNA test (I thought I had one but > apparently he chose not to do it). Since I thought we > might be an offshoot of the Thomas Shannon group out > of Virginia, I asked a descendant there to consider > taking the test to assist us all in putting groups > together. His response was that he thought that group > was well documented and that it wasn't necessary. > > My feeling is that support for the DNA research is a > good thing. There are Shannon's (or whatever family > is being researched) who got the name because they > were adopted. There are also off shoots that have a > different last name now based on level of literacy > (Zachariah is listed in the census as Channing, > Shanny, Shannon depending on the year). The closest > match I have had so far is with a gentleman named > Allison. Degree of relation would indicate we would > share a relative somewhere around 1750 to 1800. So, > was there an adoption or undocumented relationship, is > our branch really Allison, not Shannon, or his his > branch really Shannon, not Allison. I believe but > can't yet prove that Zachariah's mother was a widow > and that she had three sons. I think it is entirely > possible that the Mr. Allison that I saw in the > general area in the 1790's may be Zachariah's father, > but that is just conjecture. If the data base gets > bigger, these questions will certainly be answered. > > Thanks for contining the group! Kelly > --- JSBRIDG@aol.com wrote: > >> hi Kelly, >> thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it is >> always the male line >> that is needed? Do we ladies carry something that >> doesn't work? Never have >> understood that. >> Joyce >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Interesting, and I actually have a niece named Allison! I have no idea of a south carolina connection but as I said the DNA puts me more with Scotland than Ireland. Perhaps a male of your husband's line will do the DNA testing. As far as what I know, I said it earlier in the post. When did they come to South Carolina? Kelly --- Doneva <donevas@yahoo.com> wrote: > Kelly: > My husband's father's name was Allison Shannon; my > husband's brother was Allison Shannon...every > generation had an Allison Shannon back to Charles > John Shannon who married Martha Allison English > whose grand-father was Andrew Allison/Ellison who > had 7 girls. These Shannon's and Allison's were from > Scotland to South Carolina. > Doneva > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Kelly Shannon <vasshannon@yahoo.com> > To: shannon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:34:44 AM > Subject: Re: [SHANNON] Shannon & DNA > > I am hardly an expert but males carry the Y > chromosone > which passed father to son. The mutations in Y > occur > slowly and they can tell you likelihood of how many > generations there are between two samples (so if > there > are relatively close matches between different > Shannon > groups they share a relative at whatever degree that > might be. I haven't done the X research yet but > intend to, it goes the other way, mother's mother > etc. > If you wanted to research your father's line, you > would have to have a male relative provide the > sample > (male cousin, brother, uncle, etc.) > > In my case where I believe my great great > grandfather > William is the brother of Alexander Shannnon who has > documentation back to Zachariah and Priscilla in > Charles County, Maryland, I need a direct descendent > to take the DNA test (I thought I had one but > apparently he chose not to do it). Since I thought > we > might be an offshoot of the Thomas Shannon group out > of Virginia, I asked a descendant there to consider > taking the test to assist us all in putting groups > together. His response was that he thought that > group > was well documented and that it wasn't necessary. > > My feeling is that support for the DNA research is a > good thing. There are Shannon's (or whatever family > is being researched) who got the name because they > were adopted. There are also off shoots that have a > different last name now based on level of literacy > (Zachariah is listed in the census as Channing, > Shanny, Shannon depending on the year). The closest > match I have had so far is with a gentleman named > Allison. Degree of relation would indicate we would > share a relative somewhere around 1750 to 1800. So, > was there an adoption or undocumented relationship, > is > our branch really Allison, not Shannon, or his his > branch really Shannon, not Allison. I believe but > can't yet prove that Zachariah's mother was a widow > and that she had three sons. I think it is entirely > possible that the Mr. Allison that I saw in the > general area in the 1790's may be Zachariah's > father, > but that is just conjecture. If the data base gets > bigger, these questions will certainly be answered. > > Thanks for contining the group! Kelly > --- JSBRIDG@aol.com wrote: > > > hi Kelly, > > thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it > is > > always the male line > > that is needed? Do we ladies carry something that > > doesn't work? Never have > > understood that. > > Joyce > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Kelly: My husband's father's name was Allison Shannon; my husband's brother was Allison Shannon...every generation had an Allison Shannon back to Charles John Shannon who married Martha Allison English whose grand-father was Andrew Allison/Ellison who had 7 girls. These Shannon's and Allison's were from Scotland to South Carolina. Doneva ----- Original Message ---- From: Kelly Shannon <vasshannon@yahoo.com> To: shannon@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:34:44 AM Subject: Re: [SHANNON] Shannon & DNA I am hardly an expert but males carry the Y chromosone which passed father to son. The mutations in Y occur slowly and they can tell you likelihood of how many generations there are between two samples (so if there are relatively close matches between different Shannon groups they share a relative at whatever degree that might be. I haven't done the X research yet but intend to, it goes the other way, mother's mother etc. If you wanted to research your father's line, you would have to have a male relative provide the sample (male cousin, brother, uncle, etc.) In my case where I believe my great great grandfather William is the brother of Alexander Shannnon who has documentation back to Zachariah and Priscilla in Charles County, Maryland, I need a direct descendent to take the DNA test (I thought I had one but apparently he chose not to do it). Since I thought we might be an offshoot of the Thomas Shannon group out of Virginia, I asked a descendant there to consider taking the test to assist us all in putting groups together. His response was that he thought that group was well documented and that it wasn't necessary. My feeling is that support for the DNA research is a good thing. There are Shannon's (or whatever family is being researched) who got the name because they were adopted. There are also off shoots that have a different last name now based on level of literacy (Zachariah is listed in the census as Channing, Shanny, Shannon depending on the year). The closest match I have had so far is with a gentleman named Allison. Degree of relation would indicate we would share a relative somewhere around 1750 to 1800. So, was there an adoption or undocumented relationship, is our branch really Allison, not Shannon, or his his branch really Shannon, not Allison. I believe but can't yet prove that Zachariah's mother was a widow and that she had three sons. I think it is entirely possible that the Mr. Allison that I saw in the general area in the 1790's may be Zachariah's father, but that is just conjecture. If the data base gets bigger, these questions will certainly be answered. Thanks for contining the group! Kelly --- JSBRIDG@aol.com wrote: > hi Kelly, > thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it is > always the male line > that is needed? Do we ladies carry something that > doesn't work? Never have > understood that. > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

If you google "DNA" + "genealogy" you get several of the sites. For the useful y-DNA (at least 25 markers) it runs depending on company from about $200- to $250. If you go to www.ysearch.org you can see they have about 8 shannons posted there and another 20 that show shannon in their family tree. www.familytreedna.com has a number of different groups that can be applicable (I belong to the Irish group and to the Cumberland Gap group, the latter looks at those folks who came through the cumberland gap area about 200 years ago. I also note there is a rootsweb discussion group for this subject (DNA)sorry I did not copy down the name but it had come up on the above Google search. Kelly --- JSBRIDG@aol.com wrote: > thanks Kelly for the informative notes on DNA. Now > if someone can give us > information on a SHANNON DNA testing that is > ongoing, address, prices & > website, perhaps some of us would like to see about > a male member that might be a > part. If say.......one of my brothers would be a > part (& I know for certain > he is my brother since I am the oldest & know my mom > too well to have > had........well, you know), perhaps we could connect > to others of the line. I like > this idea. I believe DNA is the genealogy of the > future just as years ago we > rejoiced of census on microfilm.......remember the > first soundex? All tools > to make our research easier. > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

hi Melinda, please give us details on this discussion board & those interested can let you know they wish to join. Joyce

thanks Kelly for the informative notes on DNA. Now if someone can give us information on a SHANNON DNA testing that is ongoing, address, prices & website, perhaps some of us would like to see about a male member that might be a part. If say.......one of my brothers would be a part (& I know for certain he is my brother since I am the oldest & know my mom too well to have had........well, you know), perhaps we could connect to others of the line. I like this idea. I believe DNA is the genealogy of the future just as years ago we rejoiced of census on microfilm.......remember the first soundex? All tools to make our research easier. Joyce

Andrew & any others with SHANNON printed info, it is perfectly OK with me to list any materials you might have compiled/printed on your, or other SHANNON families. Be sure to list names & places, price & ordering information. Joyce

Apparently the tests between companies/organizations vary a little (number of markers looked for) but if you get you DNA results you can post on the ysearch.org for comparison with all their data base. It is also free. I don't know if their is a similar x chromosome site. Kelly Shannon --- Jo Simpson <jo@simpsons14.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > There is a company that is doing a database for all > names. I have nothing to > do with them other than sending my sample to them. > It was free and although > you dont get the results sent to you they will be > put in the database and > you can search them. The web site gives full > explanation of it all. If > anyone is interested this is the web site, > http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx > > Jo :) > http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jo14 > I use Archive CD Books to do my family history > research > http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ > http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=18 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly Shannon" <vasshannon@yahoo.com> > To: <shannon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: [SHANNON] Shannon & DNA > > > >I am hardly an expert but males carry the Y > chromosone > > which passed father to son. The mutations in Y > occur > > slowly and they can tell you likelihood of how > many > > generations there are between two samples (so if > there > > are relatively close matches between different > Shannon > > groups they share a relative at whatever degree > that > > might be. I haven't done the X research yet but > > intend to, it goes the other way, mother's mother > etc. > > If you wanted to research your father's line, you > > would have to have a male relative provide the > sample > > (male cousin, brother, uncle, etc.) > > > > In my case where I believe my great great > grandfather > > William is the brother of Alexander Shannnon who > has > > documentation back to Zachariah and Priscilla in > > Charles County, Maryland, I need a direct > descendent > > to take the DNA test (I thought I had one but > > apparently he chose not to do it). Since I > thought we > > might be an offshoot of the Thomas Shannon group > out > > of Virginia, I asked a descendant there to > consider > > taking the test to assist us all in putting groups > > together. His response was that he thought that > group > > was well documented and that it wasn't necessary. > > > > My feeling is that support for the DNA research is > a > > good thing. There are Shannon's (or whatever > family > > is being researched) who got the name because they > > were adopted. There are also off shoots that have > a > > different last name now based on level of literacy > > (Zachariah is listed in the census as Channing, > > Shanny, Shannon depending on the year). The > closest > > match I have had so far is with a gentleman named > > Allison. Degree of relation would indicate we > would > > share a relative somewhere around 1750 to 1800. > So, > > was there an adoption or undocumented > relationship, is > > our branch really Allison, not Shannon, or his his > > branch really Shannon, not Allison. I believe but > > can't yet prove that Zachariah's mother was a > widow > > and that she had three sons. I think it is > entirely > > possible that the Mr. Allison that I saw in the > > general area in the 1790's may be Zachariah's > father, > > but that is just conjecture. If the data base > gets > > bigger, these questions will certainly be > answered. > > > > Thanks for contining the group! Kelly > > --- JSBRIDG@aol.com wrote: > > > >> hi Kelly, > >> thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it > is > >> always the male line > >> that is needed? Do we ladies carry something > that > >> doesn't work? Never have > >> understood that. > >> Joyce > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > >> to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > >> the body of the message > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

If you are interested in learning about your maternal side, the Genographic Project is sponsered by National Geographic & IBM which tracks where your maternal ancestors traveled. Here is the website for all the info. https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html Trudy

www.familytreedna.com is the data base that I am in. You control what information to allow others to have. There are several companies that are doing this. I chose a different one for the percentages (as I was interested in Native American connection and they had a good data base for comparison). Once you have y chromosone results (from whatever source) there is a free site for posting y-results for comparison. The costs to this is the DNA test and depends on what you choose to do (number of markers). If he wants more information he can contact me directly as vasshannon@yahoo.com Thanks, Kelly --- Doneva <donevas@yahoo.com> wrote: > My son is a male descendant of his Shannon line, I > must have missed the DNA information...could you > please repeat it again...we'd like to give it a try. > > Doneva > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I am hardly an expert but males carry the Y chromosone which passed father to son. The mutations in Y occur slowly and they can tell you likelihood of how many generations there are between two samples (so if there are relatively close matches between different Shannon groups they share a relative at whatever degree that might be. I haven't done the X research yet but intend to, it goes the other way, mother's mother etc. If you wanted to research your father's line, you would have to have a male relative provide the sample (male cousin, brother, uncle, etc.) In my case where I believe my great great grandfather William is the brother of Alexander Shannnon who has documentation back to Zachariah and Priscilla in Charles County, Maryland, I need a direct descendent to take the DNA test (I thought I had one but apparently he chose not to do it). Since I thought we might be an offshoot of the Thomas Shannon group out of Virginia, I asked a descendant there to consider taking the test to assist us all in putting groups together. His response was that he thought that group was well documented and that it wasn't necessary. My feeling is that support for the DNA research is a good thing. There are Shannon's (or whatever family is being researched) who got the name because they were adopted. There are also off shoots that have a different last name now based on level of literacy (Zachariah is listed in the census as Channing, Shanny, Shannon depending on the year). The closest match I have had so far is with a gentleman named Allison. Degree of relation would indicate we would share a relative somewhere around 1750 to 1800. So, was there an adoption or undocumented relationship, is our branch really Allison, not Shannon, or his his branch really Shannon, not Allison. I believe but can't yet prove that Zachariah's mother was a widow and that she had three sons. I think it is entirely possible that the Mr. Allison that I saw in the general area in the 1790's may be Zachariah's father, but that is just conjecture. If the data base gets bigger, these questions will certainly be answered. Thanks for contining the group! Kelly --- JSBRIDG@aol.com wrote: > hi Kelly, > thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it is > always the male line > that is needed? Do we ladies carry something that > doesn't work? Never have > understood that. > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SHANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Shannons in australia??? especially in South Australia?? Or i think i may need to trace my great grandfather back to Ireland, but really not sure on where to look, Any help would be greatly appreciated Louise

hi Kelly, thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it is always the male line that is needed? Do we ladies carry something that doesn't work? Never have understood that. Joyce

At 09:32 PM 1/8/2007, you wrote: >hi Kelly, >thanks for the DNA info. I wonder........why it is always the male line >that is needed? Do we ladies carry something that doesn't work? Never have >understood that. I don't think they have enough information yet to follow the link through the female line -- at least that is my understanding. The male X or Y -- whatever it is -- is easier to trace. Unfortunately, my husband would not have been able to give any DNA for a Shannon trace because he was not a direct line. Lorraine

Louise...........give us some names, places & dates to see if you connect with anyone. Joyce

At 09:23 PM 1/8/2007, you wrote: >the list has been very quiet during the holidays. I think that is the >reason for not many posts. >Joyce I would have to agree with you Joyce. Many of my other genealogy lists have had very few posts on them during the holidays. And now traffic is coming through again. Lorraine

the list has been very quiet during the holidays. I think that is the reason for not many posts. Joyce

hi Lorraine & others, yes........a "roll call" is perfectly fine. Just be sure to change the SUBJECT words to fit who you are looking for - otherwise posts may be deleted if folks think they are on the old posts. Be sure to include the "who, where, when & why" you are looking for. good luck, Joyce, list manager

My son is a male descendant of his Shannon line, I must have missed the DNA information...could you please repeat it again...we'd like to give it a try. Doneva __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com