Hi There have been several postings about some site where one could go and enter a place name and the location would be shown. Does anyone know the information on how to find it/them? Thanks Bill Dalton

The main thing is for you to get well and stay well. You've had it rough lately and we all appreciate what you've done for us for so many years. Our prayers and thoughts are with you. Helene

Maura, Thank you for clearing up the Roll Call question, and thank you also for your dedication in the operation of the Shamrock list during such personal physical and mentaly stressfull times. I am sure that most of the list subscribers prayers are with you during these times. Thanks again for your efforts. Tom C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura Petzolt" <maurasminis@hotmail.com> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: [Admin] about "roll calls" > We don't do roll calls on this list, instead we have an activity twice a > year sort of like it, but with some guidelines called Ancestor Party. > Because of my illness we did not have it in March (for St. Patricks Day) but > we'll have one in September. That's when we usually have them. > > Look for info on this soon. :) > > Maura > SHAMROCK listowner > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > ______________________________

These two books written by Jim Herlihy ( of Ballincollig, Co. Cork), might be of use to anyone researching RIC Records. 1. Royal Irish Constabulary: A Short History and Guide. Four Courts Press, 1997, Dublin ISBN 1/85182/343/3 2. R.I.C. Complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men: Four Courts Press, 1999, Dublin ISBN 1/85182/502/9 Also, The Garda Siochana, Garda Museum Archives ( Dublin ) has, I believe, some records of Lists of Stations 1840 - 1921 along with 6 monthly updates of New Stations & Discontinued ones. A full set of these records is held at the Public Records Office, London. www.pro.gov.uk/ ( See "Records of the Royal Irish Constabulary / Domestic Records Information 54 & HO 184. Also, the Dublin Castle Records CO 904 and Irish Office Records CO 906 have a lot of info. ) I read the former book & found it most informative & interesting. Maybe it would be cheaper to buy the book than pay a search fee. I understand Jim Herlihy does ( or did ) searches himself, but obviously charges. I can give you his full address if you contact me off- list. (1 Ireland/Euro today is worth 1.21215 US dollars : £1/ Pound Sterling is $ 1.79580 ). Regards, Eric Nolan ( Blackburn, UK )

I have transcribed the tithe applotments for the civil parishes of Kilmucklin and Kilmurry and have them up on the County Tipperary section of my website. Both parishes are located in the South Ridings part of County Tipperary, my area of research. The film I have currently also has two Kilmore parishes (one in the Killaloe diocese and the other in Cashel's diocese) which I hope to get transcribed soon. You can find them by going to the URL below my name, on my homepage, under Ireland, click on County Tipperary. The links are located under Land Records. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Listers Attached to this is a response to my blast about the DNA project and their response to a question that I had asked. It is from Max Blankfeld, a VP from FamilytreeDNA. I also had a telephone conversation with Mr. Blankfeld. In it he agreed to look at how the results are presented so as to clear up any question as to whether there are matches for the surname as opposed to mathces to a bunch of people whose anscestors departed the old family tree long before surnames were invented. I am satisfied that the problem was the old fashioned "failure to communicate" and not a problem of people being tested and then retreating behiend a curtain of "privacy". Bill Dalton > Dear Max > > While I am in full accord with the purpose of your program, I really feel that there might be some changes in reporting results that would have precluded this missunderstanding. > > When I received the response to my question about my results, I was essentially told that 'privacy' precluded my being told about any of these 480+ matches, except for one. What I was not told was that the privacy question pertained to people with different surnames but with matching DNA. The ancestor who split off from the family tree before surnames were invented. > > Given that explanation, the response makes sense. Why would a Jones want to talk to a Dalton when there is no hope of the ancestries matching up. But, again, that was not what I was told. I had no way of knowing if there were Dalton samples that were among the matches that were 'private'. > > Might I suggest that when your company posts results, the information be presented in a different format. Present the information that for the surname (whatever surname) there are X matches out of Y total matches. Then, rate the matches by degree of match. Include the standerd comment that there are many many people, of different surnames, that will have matching DNA but not be part of the family line that the customer falls into. > > In this manner of presentation, there will be no question of matches being witheld due to 'privacy'. Your customer then will have full knowledge of who to contact out of this group of matches, or whether to contact any of this group of matches. > > I think that it is of utmost importance to keep in mind that most of your customers are not people with advanced degrees in genetics. What you may understand may be hard for someone else to figure out. > > Bill Dalton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Max Blankfeld <max@familytreedna.com> > To: rnbill@centurytel.net > Sent: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:49:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: Need assistance > > > Dear Bill, > > > > I am aware about your concerns regarding DNA testing, and I'll try to clarify some points, as well as make myself available over the phone for any additional clarification that you may have. > > We have numerous - really numerous - instances of people coming back to us and letting us know how DNA helped them break through brick walls in genealogical research. (Just out of curiosity, I am adding an e-mail that I received 3 days ago, with the authorization to make it public). > > But let me clarify the issue of matches with different surnames. > > We all descend from one single person, but of course the DNA test that we do is not to tell us this obvious fact. > > Since we all descent from one person, and then from a few families, and as times goes by those families keep branching out up to the point where we get to our own family nest, it would be natural that when we check our DNA, the less markers we check, the less unique they are, and the more markers we test, the more unique the whole string of markers is. In other words, to go to extremes, if we tested only one marker, we would most certainly match with millions of individuals that shared that marker for thousands of years. But if on the other hand when we test many markers, we will match very very few people that share those same markers. Those would be the ones that are closely related to us. > > This is valid when checking our matches on 12, 25 or 37 markers. The likelihood that we will match other individuals with 12 markers is far greater than matching on 25 or 37. Especially if our family descends from a populational group that came from one or a few prolific families thousands of years ago (which is the case for Western Europe). In a situation like this, matching between different surnames signify that our common ancestor with those individuals lived before the time when surnames were adopted, and therefore, beyond the time frame of our genealogical research. > > > > You see, our bodies work as copy machines when it comes to the Y-DNA. You can have a copy machine doing 1,000 copies without a problem, and then, the 1,001 copy may have an 'o' that looks more like an 'e'. And when we use this copy to make additional ones, all the new ones will now have an 'e' instead of an 'o'. This is a simple way to explain how mutations occur in our Y-DNA when it's transferred (copied) from father to son. Mutations don't happen frequently, on the contrary, very seldom, but they can happen randomly in time, which means that I could be one mutation off of my father. That is why all those matches or close matches on 12 markers will in most of the cases go away when they happen between different surnames, and we increased the numbered of markers that are compared: more mutations showing up, which means way back in time when the common ancestor lived. > > > > The only relevant matches that are left then are the ones between similar surnames or variants. Which was the case here with your Dalton 21/25 matches. Millicent offered to put you in touch with the 2 individual that were 21/25 off your results. I think it's a good idea, and if you all have family trees to share, you may find that at some point they converge. And, as the database grows and more Daltons are tested, you will may find a common link between you and them. > > > > I hope this helped, but if not, I am happy to spend some time with you on the phone. I would also appreciate if you post this e-mail to the lists where you posted your comments: BECKETT-L@Rootsweb.com, eng-surrey@british-genealogy.com, IRL-SURNAMES-L@Rootsweb.com, MAHER-L@Rootsweb.com, OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@Rootsweb.com, SHAMROCK-L@Rootsweb.com > > > > (please scroll down to find the testimonial that I mentioned to you) > > > > E-mail me any time! > > > > Max Blankfeld > > Vice-President, Operations and Marketing > > http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com > > 'History Unearthed Daily' > > max@familytreedna.com > > 713-868-1438 > > > > >>For 30 years, my ancestor chart was stuck at 1850, but in a matter of three > > >>days, I was able to get back to 1615. How? By DNA testing. Let me explain. > > >> > > >>I became curious about my family tree about 30 years ago. Remember, this was > > >>before the Internet. My sources were county histories, county court houses and > > >>the state archives in Charleston, WV. My paternal line is Walker, and I was > > >>unable to get back farther than 1850 because the head of household is the only > > >>person named in those early Census records. > > >> > > >>I knew that there were four Walker families in Nicholas County in the early > > >>1800s. When I found out about DNA testing about five years ago, two of those > > >>families had already been tested. So I decided to convince my brother and a > > >>descendant of Elverton P. Walker (the other Walker family that had not been > > >>tested) to participate. None of the four families matched, which was > > >>disappointing, but at least I knew that I could give up on that line of > > >>research and move on to new territory. > > >> > > >>In the 1820 Nicholas County Census, Ira Walker, born prior to 1800, is listed > > >>as head of household, with two older women and four teenagers living in the > > >>home. By comparing the ages of the residents of the household, I guessed that > > >>these were two women living with their children. I found a Nicholas County > > >>marriage bond for Eliza Walker’s marriage to John Mosbarger. Her mother, Leah, > > >>gave her permission for the marriage, and Solon Walker signed the bond. This > > >>record told me that Eliza’s father was not available to sign the document for > > >>whatever reason, and that Solon is probably her brother. > > >> > > >>Ira Walker died in 1832, and his estate lists two volumes of militia law, a > > >>regiment coat and a saber. Ira was too young to serve in the War of 1812, so I > > >>presumed that these possessions had been his father’s…and that his father may > > >>have died in that war, or soon after. That would explain why Leah, his widow, > > >>was living with her son. > > >> > > >>Seth, Ira’s brother, later moved to Indiana, and in the Census records there I > > >>found that he reported that he had been born in New Hampshire. I was excited > > >>to find a new lead, but with only the first name “Leah” to go on, I didn’t get > > >>very far. > > >> > > >>BUT last week I was notified by e-mail that Eugene Walker is a perfect match > > >>for my brother’s DNA sample. And it turns out that Eugene descends from the > > >>New Hampshire Walkers. At last, the missing link! Eugene’s ancestor is Samuel > > >>Walker of Woburn, Mass., who was born in England in 1615 and came to the > > >>Colonies when he was about 21 years old. > > >> > > >>Working forward, Eugene and my other research cousins, Joy Moore and Neva > > >>Adams, have helped me find Leah’s husband Solomon, which connects the West > > >>Virginia line to the New Hampshire line. Without DNA testing, I NEVER would > > >>have found this link! > > >> > > >>Ella Walker May, 8/20/04 > > > >

I'm not listing this as an "admin" post because it's just from me as a person.... I understand that recently there may have been some hurt feelings, and part of it I feel is my fault as lately due to my illness etc I have not been as "hands on" as usual. I am very sorry that I have not had as much time to devote to the list the past , well nearly a year really after the knee surgery. It was supposed to be a quick 3 week deal and it's turned into a life changing event which I was -not- prepared for. I really thought that the list could muddle along until I got back on my feet literally... and complications made it into a bigger deal when the webpages when down and all. All I can say is that this has always been a great list... great people and thankfully over the years very few problems. I know we can all get things back the way we were before. I'd just ask that for the time being we all pitch in together and be as nice as possible to each other and understanding of everyone's situations. That's all I can say. If you want to blame anyone for the list "problems" I'd rather you blame me than each other. On top of everything, I was notified yesterday that my Uncle who has been like a father to me died last week, and because of various family issues, I was not notified til yesterday. Not that I could have gone up to NY, but ... anyway, it's another thing to deal with. He was the last of my fathers generation, and its a major link that has been broken. He was a wonderful person, 2 purple hearts in WW2.... Joseph Clifford Petzolt. If anyone has any further comment please send them to me personally. I am working on the Ancestor Party and will be posting that info in the next week or so. Thanks for understanding, and for indulging me. Maura _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

We don't do roll calls on this list, instead we have an activity twice a year sort of like it, but with some guidelines called Ancestor Party. Because of my illness we did not have it in March (for St. Patricks Day) but we'll have one in September. That's when we usually have them. Look for info on this soon. :) Maura SHAMROCK listowner _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

Thanks, Bill, for the warning on this DNA thing. However, this is *much* more than a rip-off. Once you provide your DNA info to someone, you have *NO* control over how it is used or shared. No matter what the site or organization tells you. Many of the organizations providing DNA testing have addresses in Salt Lake City or other cities in Utah. This *may* mean that these are LDS people adding to the info on you and your ancestors that members of that church use for religious purposes (i.e., converting your dead relatives to Mormonism). That's the primary reason the LDS church has microfilmed all those vital records from all over the world. In addition, once you submit it to an organization like this one, your DNA sample and its analysis are now at least theoretically available to anyone wiling to pay a price. What happens if insurance companies -- or your employer -- learn that you may be more likely to get a certain genetically transmitted disease? Or what if that information gets added to a database somewhere that's even further from your control. DNA is definitely a way to learn about your heritage. But trusting some organization just because it has a nifty web site or promises online to protect your privacy is something I'm not prepared to do. Am I paranoid? Perhaps. But I prefer to think of it as cautious. Once information exists electronically on a computer somewhere out there it is impossible to control how it is used or shared. There must be legitimate labs that will test you and your presumed relatives and keep your information confidential, but I don't think googling "dna testing" is the best way to find them. Be careful, folks! -- --- Richard A. Danca, Newton, MA mailto:rdanca@ix.netcom.com ----

I've just learned the dates for an upcoming event in Emly, County Tipperary, and wanted to pass the information along to anyone who might be interested in attending. I don't have more information than this, but information will be posted on the Emly website <http://www.emly.ie/> EMLY FAILTE WEEK 2005. The date for Failte Week 2005 is the week of Friday July 29th to Friday August 5th. As in 1995 and 2000 the Failte Week is an invitation to everybody with an Emly background from all over the world to come and join together.

----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Lou Garcia Dear Shamrock Administrator, I would like to know if the Shamrock site is going to have a Roll Call or not. I would greatly appreciate it if you would be so kind as to let me know what the list has decided. Thank you, Betty Lou Garcia

Listers At the risk of looking foolish, I think that this situation is something that should be brought up. I have submitted my DNA sample for testing, as part of a group surname project, to the Family Tree DNA people. As a result of what I have found out, I would strongly suggest that anyone who has not already paid the fee seriously reconsider. There is a major problem that should cause one and all to consider whether the project, and the fee, are worth it. On the 23d, I went to my FamilyTreeDNA.com file and determined the following: I have two exact 12 marker Y DNA matches. I also have 152 one step mutation 12 marker matches. I also have 334 two mutation matches. Thus,a total of 488 samples closely match my DNA sample on the 12 marker level. I also have, on the 25 marker level, with one mutation, 1 match. I am going to be told how to contact only 1 (yes only 1) of these 489 individuals who closely match my DNA. The other 488 simply do not exist. The reason? I have copied the reason given by a Cheryl Crane of Family Tree DNA. "The reason you do not see your two exact matches is that they are members of other group projects, and their status is Private, which restricts seeing/being seen by matches in other groups. The REO page is an anonymous database meant to give you an idea of where people you match or nearly match have more recently lived. Your Haplogroup gives a deep origin of your line, and so this information is meant to tell where your type of DNA has been found more recently. These results are from actual people who have tested, or have been part of scientific studies. You do not see who they are because this an anonymous database - ..." The company runing this program has clearly made no provision for telling people who have a match about the other persons. It should be very simply to simply inform someone that there is a match (or a apparently a large number of matches) but that they are "private". Then, at least give the person the choice of waiving the privacy status. Given this refusal to exchange information, I cannot see any reason to become part of this program. Under the current situation, I have simply wasted a bunch of my money. Unless the conditions are changed, and the option of waiving privacy limitations is granted, I would advise no one to waste any time or money on this. I would suggest that this message be forwarded to all genealogical sites that you are members of. Unless changes are made, this is simply a "rip off". Bill Dalton Gig Harbor, WA, USA

I have updated the GenWeb County Tipperary website by adding some new pictures, Tithe Applotments, Griffith Valuations, Surname records and/or links. I have also added a new civil parish webpage for Emly Civil Parish. The following town(land)s have either new or updated pages: Ardohill, Ballinvreena, Ballycurran, Ballyholahan East and West, Ballyhone, Ballynacree, Ballynagrana, Ballynaveen, Vallyvistea, Bartoose, Breansha, Emly, Moanmore (4), Borrisoleigh, Nenagh, Clonmel, Clashavickteery, Cleghile, Chancellorsland, Chantersland, Clashdrumsmith, Clasheleesha, Coolboy, Drumcomoge, Duncummin, Farran, Farranasa, Gortatemple, Gorteen, Gortvunatrime, Lissobihane, Nickers, Rodus, Tulla, Clonmore (2), Tountinna, Gortshane East, Annaholty, Carrigaloe, Corrogebeg, Kilshane, Knockacurra, Knockfobole, Puddingfield, Springfield, Ballybeg, Ballysimon, Cloonmalonna, Emlagh, Farranaclara, Glebe, Ranacrohey (2) and Shanballymore. A number of these pages have updated by adding the Griffith's Valuation for the townland. You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I am in Atlanta,GA and am researching these ancestors: John Macken immig. to Brooklyn 1850's Mary McGuire Brooklyn 1850's John Martin immig. to South Carolina 1850's Robanne -----Original Message----- From: Christene Hartley <chartley@tpg.com.au> Sent: Aug 18, 2004 5:53 PM To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SH] ROLL CALL Listers Ive seen several messages reporting a lack of messages. Lets rectify that with a ROLL CALL....come get to it Im in NSW Australia and have these ancestors from at this time KENNEDY Tippreary 1850 STAPLETON Tipperary prior 1850 EVERARD Tipperary prior 1850 MCGRATH Tyrone 1839 40 41 MCGRATH Donegal 1841 DOBBYN Kildare 1860 INGRAM Frmanaugh 1860 OVENS Tyrone 1841 LEE Cork 1841 LANG Louth 1841 HARTIGAN Cork KERRIGAN or CORRIGAN Tyrone 1840 MANNING Tyrone 1840 McCULLION (dozens of spellings) Tyrone 1840 GALLAGHER Tyrone 1840 MOSS Tyrone 1840 BYRNE Tyrone 1840 and JOHNSON William bn 1800 ?Ireland Johnson Samuel son of above bn 1839 Ireland married Newcastle Upon Tyne 1859 Christene ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== ** To unsubscribe from this list send unsubscribe to SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com for regular mode, or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest **

Dear friends : If you are interested in knowing about the Irish emigration to Argentina, you can visit the site : www.irishargentine.org. It has lots of information, with bibliography, articles, biographies, etc. If you affiliate to the Irish Argentine Society, which is the owner of the site (20 euros per year), you can download shipping lists, census, and other information about Irish inmigration to Argentina, in Excel or Access format. I have not any responsibility in the association, I am only an affiliate. Slainte. Patricio Mac Donagh

Tom, I agree with you. Where are all the genealogy postings? Instead of all admonitions being posted to Christene, who was only trying to be helpful and get this list moving in a positive direction. I say "Congratulations Christene" for having the motivation and initiative to try and thanks for all your help. This list exists to support fellow genealogist in their research and that is all Christene was trying to do. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Tom A.Clougher [mailto:tomclaw@fwbnet.com] Sent: Saturday, 21 August 2004 10:16 AM To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SH] Re: apology Sorry Christene, It's to bad that you received so many messages about such a trivial mistake from all the pseudo list administrators that this list seems to have. There must be a lot of nit-pickers out there that have nothing to do but jump all over someone for one thing or the other. Instead of unsubbing you should have just told them in Gaelic to Pug A Ma Ho. OH ! Nit Pickers please don't email me because I have a fast delete finger. Tom C (USAF Retired)

If anyone is interested our volunteers have transcribed more than two rolls of census film for County Tipperary. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/Census/index.htm Also County Longford volunteers are in the process of adding a roll from Co. Longford. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm Hope this is a help to someone. Best wishes, Christina

I have updated this website by adding/updating the follow town(land) webpages: Nymphsfield, Ballina, Cong, Swineford, Turlough, Keeloges, Westport, Dringeen Eighter, Dringeen Middle, Dringeen Oughter, Lanmore, Caheredmond, Ardacarha, Ballinlag, Barleynhill, Bohamore, Carroward, Carrowastle, Carrowgowan, Carrowkeel, Carrowmore, Carrowntleva, Gortnasillagh, Lisgormin, Lismiraun, Lissaniska, Listrisnan, Rathrowan, Rathslevin, Shanaghy, Sraheens, Tawnaghaknaff, Toocananagh, Toonomin, Treanfohanaun, Ballindell East, Ballindell West, Ballindine East, Ballindine North, Ballindine West, Ballyglass (Crossboyne CP), Ballyhankeen, Branraduff, Brookhill, Burris, Caltragh, Carrowbeg, Carrowbeg East, Carrowbeg West, Carrowconor, Carrowlena, Carrowmarley, Carrowmore (Crossboyne), Carrownlough, Carrownskehaun, Carrowsteelaun, Castlemagarrett North, Castlemagarretpark New, Castlemagarretpark Old, Castlereagh, Cloonbonniff, Cloonmore, Commons, Coolmakean, Coolroe, Crossboyne, Curraghadooey, Derry, Drumady, Drummin East, Drummin North, Drummin South, Drummin West, Esker East, Esker North, Esker South, Farmhill, Garryduff Middle, Garryduff North, Garryduff South, Garryduff West, Gortanierin, Gortgrave, Greenan, Guardhousepark, Heath, Killeen, Killeenrevagh, Kilmacanelly, Kilscohagh, Knockananeel, Lawaus, Leedaun, Lisduff, Lugalisheen North, Lugalisheen South, Mayfield, Meelick, Millbrook, Newtown North, Newtown South, Pollaniska, Pollnasillagh, Roosky, Rosskybeg, Rushbrook East, Rushbrook West, Scardaun East, Scardaun West, Seefin, Skehavaud, Treengarve, Woodstock. I have updated the Bohola Civil Parish webpage and added the Crossboyne Civil Parish webpage. Each CP has links to all the townlands in the parish. If you have surnames, records, links and/or pictures for any town(land) that you would like to see added to the website, email me off list and I will include them with my next update in September when I plan to add a new civil parish plus would like to open the Records section of the website. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I agree with both of you and sorry I didn't see the message sooner. Christine, thanks for trying to get the list going again. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Carr" <shirleyjcarr@optusnet.com.au> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: RE: [SH] Re: apology > Tom, > I agree with you. Where are all the genealogy postings? Instead of all > admonitions being posted to Christene, who was only trying to be helpful and > get this list moving in a positive direction. I say "Congratulations > Christene" for having the motivation and initiative to try and thanks for > all your help. This list exists to support fellow genealogist in their > research and that is all Christene was trying to do. > Lee > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom A.Clougher [mailto:tomclaw@fwbnet.com] > Sent: Saturday, 21 August 2004 10:16 AM > To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SH] Re: apology > > Sorry Christene, > It's to bad that you received so many messages about such a trivial > mistake from all the pseudo list administrators that this list seems to > have. There must be a lot of nit-pickers out there that have nothing to do > but jump all over someone for one thing or the other. Instead of unsubbing > you should have just told them in Gaelic to Pug A Ma Ho. OH ! Nit Pickers > please don't email me because I have a fast delete finger. > > Tom C (USAF Retired) > > > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list > should be sent to > SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com ** >

Sorry Christene, It's to bad that you received so many messages about such a trivial mistake from all the pseudo list administrators that this list seems to have. There must be a lot of nit-pickers out there that have nothing to do but jump all over someone for one thing or the other. Instead of unsubbing you should have just told them in Gaelic to Pug A Ma Ho. OH ! Nit Pickers please don't email me because I have a fast delete finger. Tom C (USAF Retired) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christene Hartley" <chartley@tpg.com.au> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: apology > it seems that i commited a cardinal sin by posting a roll call and asking > others to do the same > It seems that there is a worry that we might actually get mail in our > boxes....heaven forbid > If any one needs help with bounty immigration ( INTO NSW 1828 1842) > Rookwood lookups > etc please keep my address.the admonishing letters have now out numbered > the letters ive had from this > list in 1 month..so I am unsubding as of now > Christene > > ______________________________