In a message dated 10/16/2004 2:23:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PentonyGraham@xtra.co.nz writes: Well, Adele....we now know not ALL of his sons were monks.... :) I wish I could be of help....but I never heard of the name before. Janice Boston I have nothing on my JOHN ie parents, I only have his descendants. most of his > sons entered the Benedictan Order of Monks at Ampleforth in Yorkshire.. > > So if anyone, anywhere is researching this PENTONY name, I would love to > hear from you, many thanks.. > > Adele Pentony-Graham (cant let it die out !!) > Clareville > NZ >

After transcribing this civil parish's tithes last week I became fascinated with it because it contains so many Connors people plus a few Gilhooly's who is also in my tree, marrying a Flanagan whose daughter married into the O'Connor/Connors branch. Anyhow, I have these documented through baptism and marriage records from Tipperary RC Parish but none had townlands mentioned, so I have been searching the tithes and Griffith's Valutions starting with Tipperary Town and circling out. Anyhow, I now have transcribed the Griffith's Valuation for Cordangan CP and have it online at my website under County Tipperary. There are over 600 names in that database. I have also added a search engine to the site to make things easier for searches. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

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I have not done this before. If I have made an error on my request please advise. In era around 1850-60 these ancestors lived in County Cavan, Ireland, registered in the Parish of St. Dallans but attended the closer RC church in Killeshandra. John McCabe, Catherine Fitzpartick, Bridget McCabe, Charles O'Reilly (Riley),. They emmigrated to the New York City area after leaving Ireland, later settled in the midwest. Does anyone have any connections to these people or can advise of an URL for the Sacrement Records of St. Dallans church before 1860? Hope we connect!

I have transcribed four more County Tipperary civil parishes' Tithe Applotments: Corroge, Kilmore (South Riding), Coolmundry and Cordangan. You can access the databases by going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, at the top, under Ireland, click on County Tipperary. If anyone has Connors/O'Connors from Cordangan CP, could you contact me off list, please. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

New Subscriber to Shamrock looking for MC CAFFERTY... my ones seem to have come from Larne. Co.Antrim area... ELIZABETH MC CAFFERTY married NATHANIEL CAMPBELL married in Larne, lived in Whitehead. Co. Antrim.. her sister, ANNA MC CAFFERTY never married.. talk of a CHARLES MC CAFFERTY going to Canada, but cannot find anything more on him... Many thanks Adele Clareville NZ

Just found that Ireland as this site for all of the country, wonderful, so will pass it on to others in NZ where I am.. Now for starters, I am researching my maiden name.. PENTONY, learnt they were in Co. Meath in 12th Century... My PENTONY were in Liverpool, but JOHN PENTONY was my gt.gt.grandfather born in Dublin.. he died in Liverpool in 1884, prominent business man, made leather shoes for the Police, etc... I have nothing on my JOHN ie parents, I only have his descendants. most of his sons entered the Benedictan Order of Monks at Ampleforth in Yorkshire.. So if anyone, anywhere is researching this PENTONY name, I would love to hear from you, many thanks.. Adele Pentony-Graham (cant let it die out !!) Clareville NZ

>"PentonyGraham" <PentonyGraham@xtra.co.nz> wtote.......................... >.......................................... >Now for starters, I am researching my maiden name.. PENTONY, learnt they were >in Co. Meath in 12th Century..................................... In "Irish Pedigrees", by O'Hart, the name is spelled in the index of "Names in Ireland ", as PENTENY and PENTENEY. That's all there is regarding those names in the two vols. Patrick Traynor. tray@lanset.com

A lot more information... Westchester County Genealogical Society will be one of the exhibitors at the Family History Fair. If you come to the fair, please stop by and say hello! When: Sunday October 17 from 12 noon to 5 pm Where: The Graduate Center, City University of New York, 365 Fifth Avenue (at 34th Street), Manhattan New York's 15th annual Family History Fair will be held on Sunday, October 17, 2004 from 12:00 noon to 5:00 pm at The Graduate Center, City University of New York, 365 Fifth Avenue (at 34th Street), Manhattan. At this FREE event, the public will learn how to trace their family histories, preserve and interpret family documents, utilize archives and libraries in and around New York, and employ computers as tools for family history and genealogical research. The Family History Fair will feature more than forty genealogical societies, historical agencies, archival repositories, ethnic organizations, booksellers and other vendors offering exhibits and information for the family history buff. Free workshops on a variety of topics, as well as computer software demonstrations, will be held throughout the afternoon. Featured again this year is the Ancestors Road Show, hosted and coordinated by the NYC Metro Chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogists. Free, one-on-one sessions with professional genealogists will be offered to attendees who bring in a specific genealogical problem on which they need assistance. The Fair is the highlight of the 16th annual New York Archives Week, a citywide celebration of New York's diverse history being held October 10-17, 2004. The list of exhibitors and schedule of workshops is available at the Web site http://www.nycarchivists.org/fhf.html The Fair is co-sponsored by the Archivists Round Table of Metropolitan New York, Inc. and Continuing Education & Public Programs, The Graduate Center, CUNY. New York Archives Week is sponsored by the Archivists Round Table and is made possible in part through the generous support of MetLife Foundation, The Lucius N. Littauer Foundation, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, and other donors assisting with the Family History Fair. WORKSHOPS - FAMILY HISTORY FAIR, OCTOBER 17, 2004 Note that the list is subject to change, and a final schedule will be distributed at the Fair. 12:30 to 1:15 pm - Genealogy Research Today -- What's Hot and What's Not John Konvalinka, CGRS CGL, Professional Genealogist - Jewish Genealogy: Getting Started Jordan Auslander, Professional Genealogist - Hispanic Genealogy: Getting Started Jorge Camuñas, Hispanic Genealogy Society of New York - Afro-American Genealogy: Getting Started Afro-American Historical & Genealogical Society, Jean Sampson Scott Greater New York Chapter 1:30 to 2:15 pm - Real World DNA Testing Megan Smolenyak, Author of Trace Your Roots with DNA - New York City Genealogical Resources Jordan Auslander, Professional Genealogist - Military Records as a Genealogical Resource John F. Walter, Institute for Civil War Research - Preserve Your Family History Through Scrapbooking Carol Zack, Calligrapher and Teacher of Scrapbooking 2:30 to 3:15 pm - Next-Generation Genealogy: Making Family History Exciting to Pre-teens and Teens Ira Wolfman, Author of Climbing Your Family Tree: Online and Off-line Genealogy for Kids - Document Doctor: Preservation Basics for the Family Historian Brenda Parnes, New York State Archives - Irish Research: Where to Begin Donna M. Moughty, Professional Genealogist - Oral History: How to Gather Family Stories Patricia Laurence, Oral Historian 3:30 to 4:15 pm - Genealogy Resources Online at the Godfrey Library Thomas Jay Kemp, Director, Godfrey Memorial Library - Tracing Your Immigrant Ancestors Thomas A. Peters, CGRS, Professional Genealogist - Sleuthing in the Stacks: Using Non-Traditional Sources to Uncover Genealogical Clues Meldon J. Wolfgang, Jonathan Sheppard Books - Harlem History and Hearsay: The Significant Elders Intergenerational Project Malika Lee Whitney, Pickney Productions ===================== EXHIBITORS - FAMILY HISTORY FAIR, OCTOBER 17, 2004 Note that the list is subject to change, and a final schedule will be distributed at the Fair. African-Atlantic Genealogical Society http://www.africantic.com African Burial Ground Project http://www.africanburialground.com Afro-American Historical and Genealogical Society, Jean Sampson Scott Greater NY Chapter Afro-American Historical and Genealogical Society, New Jersey Chapter http://hometown.aol.com/njcaahgs/myhomepage/ Lisa A. Alzo, Author of Three Slovak Women http://www.15122.com/TSW Archivists Round Table of Metropolitan New York http://www.nycarchivists.org Association of Professional Genealogists / NYC Metro Chapter http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/localchapters/newyork/index.html Battery Park Software Corporation / GedWise software http://www.gedwise.com Celtic Heritage Books celt_books@msn.com Center for Jewish History, Genealogy Institute http://www.cjh.org/family Center for Thanatology http://www.thanatology.org Central Jersey Genealogical Club http://www.rootsweb.com/~njcjgc CUNY Graduate Center, Continuing Education & Public Programs, Oral History and Scrapbooking Workshops http://web.gc.cuny.edu/cepp DateFinder, Inc. / Date:Prodigy software http://www.dateprodigy.com Daughters of Union Veterans of the Civil War, 1861-1865 http://www.duvcw.org Genealogical Society of Bergen County http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsbc Genealogical Society of Rockland County http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/GSRC German Genealogy Group, Inc. http://www.germangenealogygroup.com Godfrey Memorial Library http://www.godfrey.org Hispanic Genealogical Society of New York http://www.hispanicgenealogy.com http://www.prroots.com Huntington Historical Society, Genealogy Workshop http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygwhhs Institute for Civil War Research / John F. Walter http://members.aol.com/icwrjohn/icwr.html Irish Family History Forum http://www.ifhf.org Italian Genealogical Group http://www.italiangen.org Jewish Genealogical Society http://www.jgsny.org Jonathan Sheppard Books http://www.jonathansheppardbooks.com National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region (New York City) http://www.archives.gov/facilities/ny/new_york_city.html New England Historic Genealogical Society http://www.newenglandancestors.org New York City Department of Records and Information Services, Municipal Archives http://www.nyc.gov/records New York County Clerk The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org New York State Archives http://www.archives.nysed.gov Noble Maritime Collection http://www.noblemaritime.org Passaic County Historical Society, Genealogy Club http://www.rootsweb.com/~njpchsgc Peter Minuit Chapter, National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution http://www.molsk.com/dar Thomas A. Peters, CGRS / Carpatho-Rusyns of Austria-Hungary rusyn@verizon.net Pickney Productions / "Significant Elders" Intergenerational Project leighwhitney@yahoo.com Polish Genealogical Society of Connecticut and the Northeast http://www.pgsctne.org Puerto Rican/Hispanic Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~prhgs Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn, Office of the Archivist http://www.dioceseofbrooklyn.org Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, New York Public Library http://www.schomburgcenter.org Megan Smolenyak / Genealogical books http://www.honoringourancestors.com The Weeksville Society http://www.weeksvillesociety.org Welsh-American Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtwags Westchester County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs

Hi list, I'm looking for info on a Wm John MOORE who m. a Margaretta GALWAY, abt. 1875 somewhere in Ireland. Wm immigrated to Philadelphia, PA in 1880 & settled in Chester, Delaware Co., PA. His wife Margaretta - Margaret & 3 children: John G., Margaret & Jennie immigrated in 1884. Her brother John GALWAY migrated in 1888 & is living w/ them in Chester in the 1900 Census. They were non-Catholic & may be from Northern Ireland. Would anyone have a URL for the 1881 Census in Ireland? Thank you very much for any help you can give me! :) Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

I have updated the Irish books section of my website with new books and lookup volunteers. Many on the list visited Ireland over the Summer and probably brought home a new book or two. If you are like me, you needed to buy a new bag to carry them all home :-) Maybe some new parish history books have been published that is not included in the Parish History books section. So, check out the books listed and if you find you have books that are not listed, you can use the convenient form on the bottom of each page to submit them. I will then include your book with my next update. Of course, you need not be a lookup volunteer, if you list a book. Thanks to all who have made this website so successful. You can find the links at the bottom of this page: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Also, if you find a book that you might like to buy, on this page are many bookstore links, many located in Ireland. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Family History Fair to be Held October 17 During 16th Annual New York Archives Week New York's 15th annual Family History Fair will be held on Sunday, October 17, 2004 from 12:00 noon to 5:00 pm at The Graduate Center, City University of New York, 365 Fifth Avenue (at 34th Street), Manhattan. At this free event, the public will learn how to trace their family histories, preserve and interpret family documents, utilize archives and libraries in and around New York, and employ computers as tools for family history and genealogical research. Subway: 6 to 33rd Street; 34th Street on other lines. Information: 212-415-5547. The Family History Fair will feature more than forty genealogical societies, historical agencies, archival repositories, ethnic organizations, booksellers and other vendors offering exhibits and information for the family history buff. Free workshops on a variety of topics, as well as computer software demonstrations, will be held throughout the afternoon. Featured again this year is the Ancestors Road Show, hosted and coordinated by the NYC Metro Chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogists. Free, one-on-one sessions with professional genealogists will be offered to attendees who bring in a specific genealogical problem on which they need assistance. The list of exhibitors and schedule of workshops will be available at the website www.nycarchivists.org/fhf.html. The Fair is the highlight of the 16th annual New York Archives Week, a city-wide celebration of New York's diverse history being held October 10-17, 2004. The Fair is co-sponsored by the Archivists Round Table of Metropolitan New York, Inc. and Continuing Education & Public Programs, The Graduate Center, CUNY. New York Archives Week is sponsored by the Archivists Round Table and is made possible in part through the generous support of MetLife Foundation, The Lucius N. Littauer Foundation, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, and other donors assisting with the Family History Fair. # # #

I have just added a database of 50 assorted marriages from Glin, Newcastle and Rathkeale unions that took place between 1864-66 to the Limerick section of my website. I have it sorted by both bride and by groom. The information is from civil registrations and includes father's names and occupations, residences, witnesses and ages. You can access them by going to the URL under my name and at my homepage, at the top under Ireland, click on County Limerick. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have recently opened up a new section of my website devoted to County Kilkenny. As a starter I have added the following databases: Griffiths Valuation of the county for Boyle and Booth surnames; County Kilkenny Boyle births from Ireland civil registration; and, Castlecomer civil parish Famine emigration with over 670 name. Soon and I will a surname registry and other databases. I anyone has some they would like to contribute to the site, contact me off list. You can find the County Kilkenny section by going to the URL below my name, at the top of my homepage,under Ireland, click on County Kilkenny. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Patrick Fah(e)y b ca 1845 m Mary Marony, father also Patrick Children include: Bridget Mary b 1870 m Padraig Cullinan from Tubber area on Clare/Galway border John b 1877 Catherine b 1882 Mary b 1888 Edmond b 1893 Children b Sranagalloon, Inchicronan Parish, County Clare looking for connections to this family -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

The following in in today's Ancestry Daily Newsletter. Immediate Action Requested Legislation in Congress Seeks to Restrict Access to Birth Records; FGS Recommends Writing to Your Congressional Representatives The U.S. House of Representatives is considering a bill, House Resolution 10 (H.R. 10), which seeks to restrict access to birth certificates. This bill, which purpose is to respond to the threat of terrorism, is on a fast track to passage and has been voted on by several committees already. Your help is needed now. David Rencher, Chairman of the Record Access and Preservation Committee, a joint committee of the National Genealogical Society and Federation of Genealogical Societies, has sent a letter to the bill's sponsor, Congressman Dennis Hastert, recommending an amendment to the bill as follows: "However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non-certified copies of birth certificates, or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record." A copy of the letter is available on the FGS site at www.fgs.org/rpa/formalactions.htm. To view this bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov. Enter HR 10 in the search box for "Bill Number." Action Is Needed Now Because this bill is moving toward passage so quickly, it is urged that the genealogical community take action immediately and let their representatives know that they are in support of David Rencher's amendment and the FGS position in this important matter. To find your state representative's contact information, go to www.house.gov/writerep/. How Should I Word My Letter? While you should word the letter in any way that is comfortable for you, it is recommended that you include the following as a portion of the letter: "While I support the intention to increase security to protect the U.S. from terrorists and those who wish to improperly take U.S. identities, I am concerned that those researching their family's history continue to have access to non-certified birth records. Therefore, in order to support HR-10 I ask that you amend HR-10 Section 3063(d)(2) by adding the following wording to the existing paragraph: 'However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non-certified copies of birth certificates or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record.' I believe that this additional language is imperative so that the states do not react by restricting all certificates to comply with the law, rather than dealing with certified as opposed to non-certified birth certificates. This proposed amendatory language would remind them that they can and should be treated differently."

My g,g,g grandfather JOHN L WILSON came to America "a very young man" :). He was born 13 June 1805. My thoughts are that he came here 1820 or after. One census states he was born at Cork (it didnt state City or County). Does anyone have any suggestions of where to look for any information? (i.e. parents, ship info) thank you Kathy Wilson Wiechert ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SHAMROCK-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:00 AM Subject: SHAMROCK-D Digest V04 #164

Hi all:) I've hit a brick wall in my family research. I'm hoping other researchers on the list searching for the above surnames may be able to help:) My great great grandfather Michael Tobin married a Mary Ellen callaghan and had at least one child a James Buchanan Tobin who lived in Manhattan> James married Kate Kelley daughter of Michael Kelley and Mary O'Donahue ca 1885. Most of family in early years were in Manhattan, Queens, and Brooklyn. If you are searching for these names in NY from 1840 to 1900 I'd love to hear from you. Best to all. Frank T

Looking for information/connections David COLEMAN c 1810 m Sarah NAUGHTON c Feb 1808 both born in County Mayo. Good possibility David COLEMAN is from the townlands of Coolcran, Friarstown in the Ballina area County Mayo. David's father may be John COLEMAN. Sarah's parents John NAUGHTON and Mary BROWN. David and Sarah NAUGHTON COLEMAN had at least 3 children all born in Ireland; Mary COLEMAN c 1840 married Timothy O'CONNELL c 1834 County Cork in Honesdale, Wayne County Pennsylvania. Patrick COLEMAN c 1843 m Ellen MURTHA c 1850 in Honesdale, PA; John COLEMAN c 1846 m Margaret KNIGHT c 1857 also in Honesdale, PA; John COLEMAN and Margaret KNIGHT were both from Coolcran, Kilbefad Parish, County Mayo. The COLEMAN, KNIGHT, O'CONNELL and related families remained in Honesdale for quite a while before moving on to Scranton, PA; New York, New Jersey, etc. Other surnames associated with this family include (but not limited to), HANRAHAN, O'CONNOR, STEGNER, WEFFERLING, WALSH, etc. Please contact Walton J. SULLIVAN at wsullivw@aol.com

Following is a link to a list of Famine orphans from Co. Cork who were sent to Australia between 1848 and 1850. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmahs/morph.htm Eilis O'Hara ===== ***NO UNSOLICITED PERSONAL E-MAILS PLEASE. THANKS!*** ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com