-----Original Message----- From: Pat Traynor [mailto:tray@jps.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:52 PM To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SH] Irish Republic phone directory on CD disk. In answer to a few folks who asked how to get residential phone listings. This URL is supposed to have residential listings for the Republic. The "Golden Pages" used to have them but stopped due to copyright problems. I heard they have been resumed but I could not get a listing from it when I tried. The business pages have always been available. http://www.goldenpages.ie/resSearch.asp I have an old Telecom CD directory for the years 1996/97 that I use. It was mailed to me by a teacher in Dublin. Here is a post from someone who bought one last year; ======= "If you want to purchase your own you can do so by sending $30 US Check / Money order to: " Telecon Erieann Att: Catherine Vallon Directory Sales 4th Floor - Telephone House Marlborough Street Dublin 1, Ireland =========== Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/ ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list should be sent to SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com **

In answer to a few folks who asked how to get residential phone listings. This URL is supposed to have residential listings for the Republic. The "Golden Pages" used to have them but stopped due to copyright problems. I heard they have been resumed but I could not get a listing from it when I tried. The business pages have always been available. http://www.goldenpages.ie/resSearch.asp I have an old Telecom CD directory for the years 1996/97 that I use. It was mailed to me by a teacher in Dublin. Here is a post from someone who bought one last year; ======= "If you want to purchase your own you can do so by sending $30 US Check / Money order to: " Telecon Erieann Att: Catherine Vallon Directory Sales 4th Floor - Telephone House Marlborough Street Dublin 1, Ireland =========== Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

I have a fairly dumb question here. I have recently come into possession of my grandfather Patricak Joseph Kelly's naturalization certificate. He was naturalized in New Orleans, La. He was living in Destrehan, La at the time. Where would I find the original application papers? Would they have them in New Orleans or do I have to request them from NARA? I have also come into possession of his personal file of correspondence, in which I found his biographical sketch on file with Standard Oil Co of New Jersey. It was buried in the file and the cousin who gave it to me had not looked at the pages. But, it only states that he was born in Co Kildare, Ireland. No township listed. Oddly I had attempted to get that data from EXXON and they were not helpful at all. It does list his positions within the company during his 36 plus years with the company. Oh well, hope someone can tell me the answer to my original question. Thanks in advance Patricia Reply to: Shadancer@aol.com

Just wanted to post my surnames. COMBER - HOGARTY - County Mayo FITZGIBBONS - County Cork ROCHFORD - RUSSELL - County Meath Marianne, Lake Ariel, Pa., USA

Hi Listers, Thank you to everyone who offered me sources for newspaper announcements of births, marriages and deaths in the Dublin area. It seems that the best list of newspapers is provided in James Ryan's book "Irish Records". Thx again Roy

http://www3.travelocity.com/converter/ to get the currency exchange rate for the day as it is changing weekly. Certificates (B, M, D) IR5.50 Euro $6.00 Photocopy of an entry in Register 3.00 3.30 When index reference is Supplied 1.50 1.65 Short Birth Certificate 3.50 3.85 Authentication of a certificate 1.50 1.55 Postage: United Kingdom & Ireland IRL .50 .63 All other countries: 1.00 1.27 Fees are payable in Irish punts and cash (Irish, Sterling, US dollars) for any amount but the minimum amount for a check drawn on a non-Irish bank is 12.70 Euro. A photocopy of an entry will contain the same details as a certificate but is not suitable for administrative matters. However, it is ideal for genealogical purposes Civil registration of births, Catholic marriages and deaths began in Ireland in 1864. The master indices for the entire country were produced at the General Register Office in Dublin. These are the indices which are now used for public research. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, the Mormons, has copies of almost all of the General Register Office indices and some registers, and permits access through the local Family History Centers making direct access to both registers and indices possible. http://www3.travelocity.com/converter/ to get the currency exchange rate for the day as it is changing weekly. Certificates (B, M, D) IR5.50 Euro $6.00 Photocopy of an entry in Register 3.00 3.30 When index reference is Supplied 1.50 1.65 Short Birth Certificate 3.50 3.85 Authentication of a certificate 1.50 1.55 Postage: United Kingdom & Ireland IRL .50 .63 All other countries: 1.00 1.27 Fees are payable in Irish punts and cash (Irish, Sterling, US dollars) for any amount but the minimum amount for a check drawn on a non-Irish bank is 12.70 Euro. A photocopy of an entry will contain the same details as a certificate but is not suitable for administrative matters. However, it is ideal for genealogical purposes Civil registration of births, Catholic marriages and deaths began in Ireland in 1864. Ellen P Dales wrote: > > > birth record lookup. > > > > Paul Daly > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** To find a location in Ireland, use > the IreAtlas Townland Database > http://www.seanruad.com and/or > Placename Search > http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/place > name.index.cfm **

I was wondering if someone would be so kind to do a birth record lookup. My Great Grandmother Mary HEENEY was born in Oldcastle, Co. Meath. Her parents are listed as Phillip Heeney and Annie SHERIDAN. According to her death certificate it list her date of birth as March 19, 1875. Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated,thank you for your time. Paul Daly __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

These are all centre city locations not far from O Connell st as it is now

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 TWD151@aol.com wrote: > Through the kindness of Pam, a Cook CO-IL obit volunteer, I just > learned of a new (to me) family surname, i.e., QUAID. Is there a site > that gives one info. re where certain names are most seen in Ireland? > > All I have is Anna Quaid, born Ireland 1837, came to IL circa 1852. > > Thanks for any input, > Theresa Donnelly > TWD151@aol.com the surname QUAID is not mentioned in Matheson's Special Report on the Birth Index of 1890 which would indicate there were less that 5 instances of recorded births of that name throughout Ireland in that year - so, no indication of where it was principally found - Rev. Woulfe (1923) mentions MacUAID as a well-known surname of Co. Monaghan at that time - MacLysaght notes in 1969 that the name is seen in Co Limerick without the prefix "Mac" hope this is of some help or interest regards, SeanRuad~ *{:-) near Boston Project Director for _The IreAtlas Project_ Phase II, Part 1 (Towns & Townlands) is now complete - you are invited to visit our web site at http://www.seanruad.com || COMMENTS WELCOME of the BRODERICKs of Ballymalis, Beaufort, Co. Kerry, near the castle, and the WHELTONs of Desert, Clonakilty, Co. Cork, near the quarry - e-mail: seanruad@world.std.com tel: 7 days ( EST 7am-4pm only ) (781) 646-3236 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ snail mail: 1424 Massachusetts Avenue Arlington, MA 02476-4134 USA

Good day:) Does any one know of Cemetery sites, or lists on the NET for Tipperary? I'm looking for my TOBIN ancestors. Anyone else on the list searching for TOBINS? Does anyone have access to back issues of the Genealogist? Best to all. Slainte' Frank

Hello: Many Quaid's in Limeric. Ireland. Johanna Quaid born 1834 in Limerich, Ireland. married to James Wargon ( born Bristol, Glouchester, England) married on April 20, 1859 in Calerane, Australia. Born of this marrage were Annie, Eliza, Bridget, Thomas and Ellen all born in Victoria, Australia. John the Irishman from Texas.

Could SKS look up QUAID in Griffith's. I have no idea what CO. I think it's rather an uncommon name, so maybe there wont be many. However if it's too big a list I'll understand why you wont want to copy. Thanks, Theresa

Thanks so much for that informative information. I really appreciate it. Theresa TWD151@aol.com

Through the kindness of Pam, a Cook CO-IL obit volunteer, I just learned of a new (to me) family surname, i.e., QUAID. Is there a site that gives one info. re where certain names are most seen in Ireland? All I have is Anna Quaid, born Ireland 1837, came to IL circa 1852. Thanks for any input, Theresa Donnelly TWD151@aol.com

Do a frequency and distribution of the surnames by using The Householders Index, (FHLC#919,001-7) a surname index of tax records in Griffith's Primary Valuation and Tithe Applotment Books or the CD-ROM Index to Griffith's Valuation. Griffith's identifies people between 1840 and 1864. Tithe Applotment covers the period of 1820 to 1840. This gets you to the parish level. These records give the names of the individuals (heads of households only), where they lived, the acreage, and the value of the land and building. These records do not give specific information about ages, birthplaces, and other members of the family. However, they point to the parish to search for baptismal and marriage information. Ellen Pat Traynor wrote: > > "Pat Fretts" <pfretts@cvzoom.net> wrote....... > >I am taking a trip to Ireland, and would like to find relatives of Robert > >Hickey,b.Nov., 1829,immigrated to US in 1853, wife, Margaret. Thank > >you.E-mail me at: pfretts@cvzoom.net > > No problem, just write to the 1530 HICKEYs in the Republic of > Ireland, and at least one of them will know of that Robert > Hickey of the 1850s. :-) > > For a possible clue as to where they lived in the 1850s; > They live today in these areas; > > Not counting county Dublin, there are; > 358 in area 06, > 286 in 05, > 253 in 02, > 94 in 04, > 58 in 09. > > Phonebook areas: > (07/09) are in one book and that area is of Donegal, Sligo, Mayo, > Leitrim, Roscommon, Galway. > (09) is south of Donegal Bay. > (06) Includes Clare, Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary. > (05) Includes Tipp., Waterford, Wexford, Carlow, Kilkenny, Laois, Offaly. > (02) Appears to be just co. Cork. > (01) Co. Dublin. The area surrounding it is (04). > (04) Monaghan, Cavan, Louth, Meath, Westmeath, Longford, Kildare, > Wicklow. Also small portions of Leitrim, Roscommon, Offaly, and > Wexford. > > Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net > TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/ > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** To contact the listowner send a > message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net **

I have been scanning through the rootsweb site for Ireland at the following location: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwgw/ The following counties are up for adoption: Dublin County and the City of Dublin Limerick Sligo Waterford Wexford Just thought I'd mention this in passing..... Connie

Hi Listers, Does anyone know of a resource that lists the names of districts within the City of Dublin. Let me clarify .... The suburbs of Dublin are relatively easy to name, for example, Rathmines, Rathgar, Ranelagh. If I have a street address in one of these suburbs, it is easy to assign them to one of these suburbs. However, for streets in the center city, it is more difficult. For example, is there an equivalent of a suburb name for the Rotunda Hospital in the center of the city? Or how about Thomas Street, or Capel Street, or Sheriff Street? Is there some guide, some book of maps than can help me with this? Thx in advance for any help that can be offered. Roy

Hi Listers, Can anyone tell me which were the most common newspapers used to announce births, marriages and deaths over the years in Dublin? I am looking at dates ranging from the mid 1800's to the present day. Thx in advance for any help that can be offered. Roy

Another obit. I have no direct relationship with Patrick Hoben. His daughter-in-law, Catherine Joynt was my first cousin twice removed. Linking up all the Irish in Palo Alto Co, IA at http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapaloal/paloalto.htm Emmetsburg Democrat Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa Wednesday, 13 Apr 1921 DEATH COMES AT RIPE OLD AGE OF 93 Patrick Hoben Who Settled in Highland Township in 1882 Saturday evening at 10:20 Patrick Hoben, one of the oldest citizens of our county, passed away at the home of his son, Austin Hoben, in Highland township with whom he lived for many years. He was more or less crippled with rheumatism for nearly forty years but he did not become seriously ill until last Thursday. Having attained the age of 93, advancing years kept steadily undermining his health and strength and he was finally forced to yield to the inevitable. The funeral was held yesterday. Services were conducted in the Catholic church at Ruthven, Father Conley celebrating the requiem mass. The burial was in the family lot in the parochial cemetery at that place. A large number of old neighbors and friends were in attendance. Several from this city were present. The pall bearers were M.J. Donahue, John Burns, Michael Daily, C.C. Egan, John Bough, and John Joyce. Mr. Hoben was born at Eriff, near West Port, county of Mayo, Ireland in January, 1828. His age was 93. He was married in his native country to Winnie Hearrity in 1860. Mr. and Mrs. Hoben came to the United States in 1861 and located in Clinton county, this state. In 1868 they became residents of Boone county and in 1882 settled on a farm in Highland township this county. Their son Michael still resides on the place. Mr. Hoben is survived by two sons and two daughters. The sons are Michael and Austin of Highland township and the daughters are Mrs. Michael Golden of Valley Junction and Mrs. Henry Brash of Deadwood, South Dakota. Mrs. Hoben died in January 1913. Like millions of the men and women of his race, Mr. Hoben left sorely depressed Erin which always had a warm place in his heart's affections, and came to our great republic, the land of the free and the home of the brave, to enjoy the privileges, the opportunities and the material comforts that were denied him in the country of his birth. He was economical and thrifty and he provided carefully and successfully for the needs of his wife and family. He led a good life, was esteemed by his neighbors and friends, discharged conscientiously and faithfully his duties as a citizen and upheld with patriotic ferver the honor of his state and country. He was warm hearted, friendly and hospitable, and his associates of pioneer days always took an earnest interest in his health, his happiness and his welfare. He learned early in life his duties to religion and he always sought divine assistance when temptations and severe trials came to him. He lived to a ripe old age. His death will be widely and sincerely mourned. The sons and daughters have the sympathy of all in their bereavement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Note: the obit of Mr. Hoben's wife mentioned their marriage took place at Glasgow, Scotland. I previously sent her obit to the lists a couple of weeks ago. Descendants of Patrick Hoben 1 Patrick Hoben b: 01/1828 in Eriff, Mayo, Ireland src1: 1895 Iowa Census-City of Emmetsburg, src2: Obit d: 04/09/1921 in Highland Township, Palo Alto, Iowa . +Winifred Hearrity b: 1831 in Lewisburg, Mayo, Ireland src: Obit m: 10/22/1860 in Glasgow, Scotland src: Obit d: 01/18/1913 in Highland Twp, Palo Alto, Iowa ........ 2 Michael E. Hoben b: Abt. 1869 in Boone Co, Iowa src: 1895 Iowa Census-City of Emmetsburg ............ +Catherine D. Joynt aka: Kittie b: 09/27/1873 in Iowa src: 1900 Census-Palo Alto Co. m: 02/21/1906 in Emmetsburg,Iowa d: 09/10/1962 ........ 2 Sara Hoben aka: Sadie b: Bet. 1873 - 1874 in Boone Co, Iowa src: 1895 Iowa Census-City of Emmetsburg ............ +Michael Golden ........ 2 Austin Hoben b: Bet. 1875 - 1876 in Boone Co, Iowa src: 1895 Iowa Census-City of Emmetsburg ............ +Mary Virginia Joyce b: 01/1882 in Palo Alto County, Iowa src: 1900 Census Palo Alto County, Iowa m: 01/24/1905 in Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa src: Newspaper ........ 2 Stephen Hoben b: Bet. 1877 - 1878 in Boone Co, Iowa src: 1895 Iowa Census-City of Emmetsburg ........ 2 Mary Hoben ........ 2 Margaret Hoben ............ +Henry Brasch

Apologies for a long posting, but I'm still in catch up mode. There is now just under 300 pages on this site. To use the County Cork Web Page http://www.sci.net.au/userpages/mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm Use the Find facility for a particular surname or place, or, choose one of the categories at the top of the page. The Find facility allows you to AND (all words) or OR (any) words. The following categories have been updated. These new pages have been indexed by the robot for the FreeFind facility. BOOKS stacks of additions CENSUS -1821 Census for Co. Meath Submitted by Patty Picket ** Not posted to any Cork mailing lists - Leitrim-Roscommon 1901 Census Search Page Link submitted by Denise. - Co. Antrim 1851 Census - List of census information plus assistance required by Liam G. McFaul CHURCH - Link for Church of Ireland, Cork, Cloyne And Ross - Buttevant RC Parish.Link submitted by Brendan Sisk. - Cork Parish films in the National Library of Ireland in Dublin Submitted by Anita to Genexchange County Cork Newsletter - Currow Co. Kerry Baptisms, 1801-1805 Submitted by Patty Pickett ** Not posted to any Cork mailing lists - Mallow Union of Parishes, Cloyne Diocese, Church of Ireland. Rev. Robert Kingston. Submitted by Anita to Genexchange. CIVIL - Irish Birth, Death and Marriage Civil Records. Describes the information you can expect to find on these records. Ginni Swanton's web site. COATS of ARMS - Coat of Arms. Submitted by Patty Pickett. GRIFFITH'S INDEX - Leitrim or Roscommon Griffith's Index. Submitted by Denise. HISTORY - The Charter Granted to Cork 1185. Philip O'Rourke's Irish Ancestral Page. - Famine Dating - Scottish prelude. Submitted by Denis Grant. - Famine Orphans from County Cork to Australia Mallow Archaeological & Historical Society - Fostering in Ireland, 1920. Sisters of Mercy in Dublin. The Great Island News. Submitted by Colman Ahern. - National Archives "Relief Commission Index" Submitted by Denise. - Irish Kings. Hugh McGovern has a table that lists the spellings of the names of the Irish high kings as they appear in the digital edition of the Annals. - Time Line. Eircom. Submitted by Denise. - WhiteBoys Doneraile - various links added. HOW TO GET STARTED - FIANNA has a good study guide. Link submitted by Anita. - Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness - Genealogy Research Tools. Submitted by Ley K. O'Connor - Care of Documents at Home. Submitted by David N Murray IMAGES - Pictures of places in Cork LAND - Greville - landlord Submitted by Michael Cronin - Mallow Archaeological & Historical Society - Land Owners MAILING LISTS - Local Ireland Submitted by Anita in Genexchange Newsletter. - Creating a Query - Sample Queries Links submitted by Anita to Genexchange. NAMES - Meaning of Irish Names. TIARA Web Site. Submitted by Patty Pickett. MAPS Ireland Maps Link submitted by Phyllis Phillips. MILITARY - Collins Barracks, Dublin - National Museum - Irish Architecture Online. - Fermoy Barracks. Link submitted by Denis Grant - Garda Siochana in Ireland - Garda Siochana Historical Society Links submitted by Denis Grant - Military Department, General Directory Of Cork For 1867, Henry & Coghlan's. Jean and Finbarr's web site. - RIC Ranks Submitted by Peter McGoldrick. ** Not submitted to any Cork lists. - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Submitted by Michael Cronin NEWSPAPERS - Current local newspapers in County Cork - From Anita's Genexchange Newsletter - Irish newspapers - Link suggested by Victoria. - Cork Examiner On Microfilm for August 1841 thru February 1923 in Boston College in the O'Neill Library. Submitted by Anita to the Genexchange list. PLACES - Factory Hill, Glanmire is a townland in the Civil Parish of Caherlag. Link submitted by Brendan Sisk. - Inchigeelagh. Link submitted by Michael Cronin. - Springhill House, Minane Bridge Submitted by Joseph Daunt Johnston. 'Tracton/Minane Bridge group' John T. Kiely SHIPPING - "Ann & Mary" 1833 Cork, Ireland to Saint John, New Brunswick ISTG - "Cambridge" - Cork 1849. Philip O'Rourke's Irish Ancestral Page. - "Hebe" Cork, 1823 to Quebec. Link submitted by Sherri Delaney to Rootsweb Cork mailing list - "Industry" - Cork 1848. Philip O'Rourke's Irish Ancestral Page<br> - "(Brig) Lydia" - Cork, Ireland to New Haven, Connecticut 30 June 1826. ISTG - "Stakesby" Cork, 1823 to Quebec. Link submitted by Sherri Delaney to Rootsweb Cork mailing list - Cobh/Queenstown - Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild , Ireland - Cobh - People who left. Linked suggested by Denis Grant. Rootsweb Cork mailing list. - Cork - Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild , Ireland - Australian Passenger Lists. Carol Russell's Tweetybird Australian page. Numerous passenger lists links as well as some of her own transcribed lists. Link submitted to Rootsweb Cork mailing list - "Metoka" - Shippinfg Notices 1846. Charges against Capt. M'Learn. Jean and Finbarr Prendergast's web site - 'The Cork Examiner' of 1850 shipping notices Jean and Finbarr Prendergast's web site - 'Cork Constitution' of 1832 shipping notices, along with some background information. Jean and Finbarr Prendergast's web site - Immigration and Ships Passenger List Research Guide This guide by Arnie Lang was originally prepared for the Genealogical Society of Bergen County, New Jersey. It's now available online and is being updated and expanded. The guide is logically outlined and well done. The Web site is simple, yet designed very efficiently for ease of navigation. The guide is perfect for the genealogy beginner, and a great refresher for those of us who think we might know all there is to know about immigration and ship passenger lists. Link submitted by Tony Riordan to Shamrock list. - Passenger Lists - Genealogy Links. Submitted by Denis Grant to Rootsweb Cork mailing list - Old Shipping Records - PRO The Finding Aid for Port Books, 1565-1799 The Alphabetical Index of Information Leaflets Links submitted by Denis Grant to Rootsweb cork mailing list. SOCIETIES - Cork Archaeological and Historical Society, Journal of the (JCHAS) - Indexes Various contributors to Genexchange mailing list. - Journals - Archaeological and Historical a collection of Irish Archaeological and Historical Journals' indexes see Thaddeus Breen's compilation. Link submitted by Denis Grant. - Journals - Local History - Bandon Historical Journal - The Kinsale Record - Mallow Field Club Journal. Submitted by Anita in Genexchange County Cork Newsletter. SURNAMES - An Atlas of Irish Names is being created by the National University of Ireland at Cork. - Chinnery of Midleton Submitted by Michael Cronin. - Matheson Report on Surnames -corrected links for IGSI (Top 100 Surnames) - Matheson Distribution of surnames in Ireland (surnames with 5 or more entries in birth index of 1890) Ancestry Ireland Ulster Historical Association. - Murphy Clan - Nagle Ginny "O" Chung's web page - O'Neill Clan Home Page - updated link - Riordan - Tony Riordan's Page. TITHES -Ballycotton. Submitted by Brendan Sisk - Driscoll Tithes Updated link - 1834 Tithes Applotment for Ballinvoher and Graigue Parish of Kilworth, County Cork at is actually 1828 and is now with: 1828 Tithes Applotment for the Parish of Kilworth, Diocese of Cloyne WEATHER Updated link to CNN.com weather Cork Margaret Grogan Turner