The following appeared on the McBRIEN-L, and with sender Bill Barber's permission, I reproduce it here: Here are some interesting guidelines in your quest for accurate documentation of your family history. The National Genealogical Society (http://www.ngsgenealogy.org) has published standards for genealogical research, including the following: Remembering always that they are engaged in a quest for truth, family history researchers consistently-- --- Record the source for each item of information they collect. --- Test every hypothesis or theory against credible evidence, and reject those that are not supported by the evidence. --- Seek original records, or reproduced images of them when there is reasonable assurance they have not been altered, as the basis for their research conclusions. --- Use compilations, communications and published works, whether paper or electronic, primarily for their value as guides to locating the original records. --- State something as a fact only when it is supported by convincing evidence, and identify the evidence when communicating the fact to others. --- Limit with words like "probable" or "possible" any statement that is based on less than convincing evidence, and state the reasons for concluding that it is probable or possible. --- Avoid misleading other researchers by either intentionally or carelessly distributing or publishing inaccurate information. --- State carefully and honestly the results of their own research, and acknowledge all use of other researchers' work. --- Recognize the collegial nature of genealogical research by making their work available to others through publication, or by placing copies in appropriate libraries or repositories, and by welcoming critical comment. --- Consider with open minds new evidence or the comments of others on their work and the conclusions they have reached. [(C) Copyright 1997 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice.]

I have seen some sites on the list on previous occasions, but because of not thinking outside the 9 dots deleted them. Could some kind person who knows of online searching sites for shipping passenger lists, so that I may find my ancestors that possibly went from either Sligo or elsewhere in Ireland, to the states from around 1844 onwards. hope someone can assist Max in Australia

I am looking for a Bridget CAMPBELL that married a Francis McINTYRE somewhere in Ireland before 1846. Bridget & husband Francis came to Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec, Canada around 1847/48. There first child was Patrick McINTYRE, born in Ireland in 1846. Patrick did NOT come to Canada with his parents and may have been raised by the Grandparents. Patrick arrived in Canada in 1866 at age 20. Jon

I am looking for the McINTYRE family that settled in Inverness, PQ circa 1847. Please see chart below for the names of those that settled in Inverness. I am trying to establish where in Ireland they came from. If you don't see a connection BUT have Irish descendants that settled in Inverness, St. Jacques-de-LEEDS or Ste. Agathe Quebec, I would like to hear from you. Thanks in advance. Jon DESCENDANCY CHART =================================================================== 1-- James MCINTYRE-673 b. Ireland sp-Jane KILPATRICK-674 b. Ireland 2-- James MCINTYRE-410 (1829-1894) b. Ireland sp-Jane CALLUM-409 (1836-1910) b. Ireland 3-- Patrick Joseph MC INTYRE-408 (1852-1937) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Margaret MCINTYRE-654 (1854) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Mary J. MCINTYRE-655 (1855) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- John Henry MCINTYRE SR.-221 (1857-1928) sp-Mary M. SULLIVAN-222 (1861-1922) 3-- James MC INTYRE-407 (1859) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec sp-Jane ?-571 3-- Dennis MC INTYRE-628 (1863) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Francis MC INTYRE-629 (1865) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Peter MC INTYRE-630 (1867) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 2-- Matthew MCINTYRE-676 b. Ireland sp-Margaret CALLUM-677 sp-Sarah KEENAN-679 2-- Francis McINTYRE b. Ireland sp Bridget Campbell 3-- Partick b. 1846 in Ireland {Came to Canada some time between 1861 & 1871, did NOT come with the family in 1847} 3--Mary Jane b. . Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- John b. . Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Ann b.. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Elizabeth b. . Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Francis b.. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec Bridget b.. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec Jon Aspinwall e-mail address: Jon-370@worldnet.att.net ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Researching: In England -- Aspinwall - Aspinall In Ireland -- Donnelly - McIntyre - Callum - McCallum - Curran - Kilpatrick -Sullivan in Co. Kerry, Parish of Prior In Scotland - Gibson In New England USA - Donnelly - Gibson In Quebec --McIntyre -- Callum -McCallum ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* ==================================================================

I am looking for descendants of Matthew COX born in Ireland about 1825. His children were: John, born 1854 in PQ Canada Matthew, born 1856 in PQ Canada Terrence, born 1858 in PQ Canada Rosie, born 1861 in PQ Canada James, born 1863 in PQ Canada Ann Marie, born 1865 in PQ Canada Philip Henry, born 1874 in PQ Canada This family is listed in the 1881 Canada census as being Catholic.

Hello, I am looking for information regarding John FITZPATRICK (1799-1889) born in Ireland, moved to NY?PA? then onto IL. He married Ann SHERIN/SHERAN from Ireland (aft. 1801-1888). I believe they may have come from Queens County (LEIX, LAOIS). This is what I have so far but is still yet unconfirmed. I obtained most of this information from a "shirttail" cousin, but the source only reads as their family tree entry, not an actual source. If anyone has any suggestions on how to find out the information, I would greatly appreciate it! *John Fitzpatrick (born 1766)Queens County, IRE + Mary McGowan or Gowan (IRE) -John Fitzpatrick *-Thomas Fitzpatrick -William Fitzpatrick -Patrick Fitzpatrick (March 17, 1802) *Thomas Fitzpatrick (IRE) +Mary -Patrick Fitzpatrick *-John Fitzpatrick (1799) -Alice (?) Fitzpatrick (abt. 1834) Thomas' son John would be my ggggrandfather who married Ann Sherin/Sheran. *John Fitzpatrick (1799)(IRE) + Ann Sherin/Sheran (1801) (IRE) -Thomas Fitzpatrick *-Katherine Fitzpatrick (Jan. 10, 1855 in PA) -John Fitzpatrick -Patrick Fitzpatrick -James Fitzpatrick Katherine Fitzpatrick would marry Thomas Ashton who is my gggrandfather. I have descendent information to share and would very much appreciate how to find out more. I tried for death certificates, the only record found so far was Katherine Fitzpatrick which only gave me parents names and her state of birth. I still need to figure out when and where they were in PA before I can start looking through the census. Any suggestions are most welcome. Thanks! Kari

Hi Reposting names and hoping that someone out there is searching the same ones. All supposedly from Clare, Ireland and went to South Australia. BFN Sue Living in the past lane. CARPENTER, CAVE, BROWN, COFFEE, GOULD, GAMLEN, KAIN, KEANE, MAYGER, WILLIS, RUSSELL

Researching Margaret Moynahan born circa 1803 and married to Jeremiah KING in 1833, Kilcummin Parish, Kerry, Ireland. Elaine

In the past few days, the Rootsweb server which both the SHAMROCK and Waterford lists were housed on had some major problems, which in turn caused some problems with how the list operated. Some of you contacted me privately about why messages or commands did not go through. While it seems that the problems have now been fixed by Rootsweb, some "leftover" problems are still causing some minor difficulties. What you may have noticed in the past few days was that messages did not go through immediately, the prepend to the list messages was missing and that temporarily commercial taglines were added to list messages. If you sent in a command to subscribe or unsubscribe it was not immediately acted upon by the computer, so you may have sent in additional commands. What may still be happening is if you have recently -unsubscribed- from this list, you may have been added back by the computer. You may be getting both regular and digest versions as some subscribers have been added or unsubscribed -- if this is happening you can just unsub from whichever version you do not want, or write to me and I'll assist you. If you are having any other problems which you think may be coming from this list problem, please write to me privately. I think most of the problems can be fixed easily. The only ones I can't fix easily are those who got unsubscribed, as Rootsweb has said that has happened to few people. These problems affected every list housed on the 6 server, so you may be experiencing these difficulties from other lists also. In that case, please contact the listowner for that list. Thank you for your cooperation, and write to me off list if you are having a problem. Maura SHAMROCK and Waterford listowner <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

I haven't had any mail on this List since Saturday. Does the List have a problem or do I have a problem I need to check? Thanks much! Edna

Hi I am searching for the time my ggparents came to Canada from Ireland, and their origins in Ireland. They are Patrick McDERMOTT c1813, his wife Bridget FLANNELLY c1813, and children, Patrick c1839-40 and Mary c1843. They came to Canada in the period of 1843-45, as their next child was born in Canada in July 1845. Could anyone have the passenger lists for the following ships that came into Canada in this period? Ship "Constitution", from Sligo with 139 passengers to Canada in April 1845. Ship "Dromahair", from Sligo with passengers bound for Quebec in 1844. Ship "Dromahair", from Sligo with 217 passengers for Quebec in May 1845. Ship "Elizabeth", from Waterford to Quebec in August 1844. Ship " Governor", from Limerick to Quebec April 1845. Thank You Jerome J. McDermott

If you have a homepage with a genealogical connection to County Waterford and would like it listed on the County Waterford site at http://community.webtv.net/waterfordroots/waterford please go to that page, follow the guidelines for how to have your page listed and send the info to the address given on that page. You do not have to be a member of the Waterford mailing list to have your page listed, we welcome any homepages with Waterford connections... so if you have any friends who you think might be interested, please pass this info along to them. The more listings, the better your chance at making a connection. Happy Searching, Maura County Waterford IGW host <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

I'd like to clear up another misconception about viruses and mailing lists..... It is -not- possible to get a virus via any Rootsweb mailing list, or any mailing list system where the listowner has said no attachments go through the list. Viruses come as attachments, usually ones you have to open but occasionally those you don't. Therefore, if no attachments are allowed, you can't get the virus through. When some of you are saying to me "but I got this from the list", if a person sent a post to you -privately- and also to the list, then the private message was the one with the virus. Same thing if someone just sends you something privately. This is the main reason you should not -ever- open any attachments sent to you unless you have asked for it from someone you know. This is basic internet useage. Again, you cannot get a virus from a message sent to a Rootsweb mailing list. Rootsweb has taken many pains to see that this is so. This is the time of year that virus warnings start going around because the "people" that start them prey on the newbies to the internet who mean well, but cause all this confusion. The general rule is always this..... if you get -anything- (virus warning, chain letter etc) that says send this to everyone you know, it's a hoax. Just dump it in the garbage. If there ever really is something to worry about, you will either hear about it on the news or the listowner of the list will tell you about it. This has really only happened with that Happy99 virus and Melissa virus last year, both of which did not go through mailing lists, but did go around to listmembers through private email. And your best bet is to invest in a good anti-virus package in any case.... followed by don't spread chain letters and other things like this. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Folks, Here's an excellent site: http://www.pgil-eirdata.org Julie

Was given the names and birth dates of 6 siblings of my ggrandfather this afternoon. Am posting updated version of basic information to see if it now connects with anyone else's work. My gggrandfather was John Morrissey of Waterford Ireland. He was married to Margaret Fanning. Children of John Morrissey and Margaret Fanning are: Ellen (30/12/1856 - ?) Patrick (24/09/1860- 06/09/1921) married Mary Tobin Mary (30/05/1863 - 1899) Andrew (23/10/1865 - ?) John (25/12/1867 - ?) James (09/04/1871 - ?) Janet (06/11/1873 - ?) Children of Patrick Morrissey and Mary Tobin: Mary (17/05/1886 - 03/07/1968) married ??O'Neil John (24/11/1887 - 1950) Catherine (1890 - ??) married ??Barnett William (18/06/1891 - 29/10/1906) James (20/01/1893 - 18/09/1960) married Mary Flavin (15/09/1897 -27/01/1965) Thomas Francis (05/12/1894 - 14/05/1982) married Margaret Matilda Strain (27/08/1897-24/11/1991) Margaret (27/06/1896 - 1991) Laurence (22/10/1898 - 1971) married Johanna Carroll Would appreciate hearing from anyone who can shed light on any of these people. Bob Morrissey

To all, who sent me Griffiths info. And I hope I didn't miss sending a thank you personally to anyone, for the Griffiths of Holt & Horrock/HERRICK info. Now to start another search.......... Pat

Hi Tom, I ordered a part of the 1901 Irish Census thru a LDS Family History Centre, in Ontario. It is on microfilm. It came to the Centre from Utah. I paid a fee to bring the films to the LDS Centre for 3 months, with an option to pay a bit more to have them remain in the Centre permanently. There were 3 rolls of film covering the Poor Law Union I was interested in. Regards, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "ThomasRiley" <triley@tampabay.rr.com> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: [SH] 1901 Irish Cencus > where oh where does one get a copy of the cencus, of 1901 of Ireland, the family history centre in tampa cant figure out if they have one on fiche or film or its number to order, if in fact they do carry it==help please=tom r.in fla > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list > should be sent to > SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com ** > >

Hi List I have been working on a marriage tape of Balla, Co Mayo for 1837-1881. There were many entries of "A Certificate has been issued to -----. However, no marriages appeared on this tape. Can anyone explain this for me? Thanks, Mary Sheridan Swatta ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In order to establish a reliable basis for taxing property in 19th century Ireland, a countrywide valuation of property was conducted from the mid 1840's through the mid 1860's. This valuation was formally entitled the GeneralValuation of Rateable Property in Ireland and was carried out by the Commissioner of Valuation, Richard Griffith. Kilkenny was 1849-1850. Ellen JBradley wrote: > > Hello List, > > My ancestor, James POWER, was compelled to leave Ireland in the summer of 1848 for his part in the Young Ireland Rising. There are 34 James POWER listed for his birthplace, County Kilkenny, in Griffith's 1848-1864. My question is - what part of the year was Griffith's done? Would James have made the list or not? Thanks for any advice. > > Julie > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Visit TIARA for many helpful links > http://www.tiara.ie **

Go the the FHLC, do a LOCALITY search for the parish. There will probably only be about 3 items listed. The FHLC does have the 1901 and is rapidly getting the 1911 on microfilm. Ellen ThomasRiley wrote: > > where oh where does one get a copy of the cencus, of 1901 of Ireland, the family history centre in tampa cant figure out if they have one on fiche or film or its number to order, if in fact they do carry it==help please=tom r.in fla > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list > should be sent to > SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com **