I have a film number for the LDS re Irish civil Registrations, for deaths for 1900-1902. If I order the film, will it have the actual death cert, or will it just be an index of names of deaths which occurred during those years. Thanks, Yvonne

I am researching CALLAGHANs (and variants) who moved from Ireland to St Helens, Lancs, England around 1850. I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Yvonne Pratt wrote: >I have a film number for the LDS re Irish civil Registrations, for deaths for 1900-1902. If I order the film, will it >have the actual death cert, or will it just be an index of names of deaths which occurred during those years. That film is on the Index of Deaths. The LDS filmed the actual death records for 1864-1870 only. Paul Gorry What's What in Irish Genealogy http://indigo.ie/~gorry

Got this book out of the library last week and finally got around to looking at it. It has suggested Tartans for Scottish, Scotch-Irish, Irish and North American Surnames with Lists of Clan, Family and District Tartans, by Philip D. Smith (Heritage Books, Inc.) Found my surnames I am researching: For the surname: closest Namematch Tartan McCaull MacCaul Mac Coll tartan Mc Mann MacMan(n) Manson tartan Warren Warren Fife District tartan Christie Christie Christie Christie Christie Farquharson McAuslin MacAuslan(D) Buchannon MacAuslan (E) Buchannon Helm Helm(s) Roxburch District He states in this book that "Mac, Gaelic for "son", is the most common element of Scottish and Irish surnames. In both countries, Mc is always an abbreviation of Mac. There is absolutely no truth to the American myth that Mac is Scottish and mc is Irish. Mac used to be abbreviated M' although this spelling is not common now. At times, all three versions can be seen. In an early book on Highland music, the author spelled his own family name three different ways on the first two pages-"MacDonald", "McDonald", and "M' Donald." He also goes on to state that "Spelling differences among names are usually trivial no matter how much pride a person has in a prticular version. Many of our ancestors were illiterate until recently, especially if they were Gaelic speakers." Thought this was interesting since I have been bounced back and forth between the Irish and Scottish lists looking for my McManns. Linda

For info on exactly what you will find on films of births, marriages and deaths (and for what years ), see the section on Civil Registration records on my Helpful Hints page, url below. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Thanks to Dennis Ahern of Genireland list for posting answer re: school records in Kanturk area ( 1850-70) I'm certainly going to try it! Pat

I have been reading Irish Civil Registrations and the film will have the actual death information as recorded in the Record Books. Just be certain that you are ordering the records rather than the INDEX to the records. (This is clearly stated in the FHCLC when you order the film). Leila M ______________________________X-Message: #6 >Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 22:30:58 +1100 >From: Yvonne Pratt <vonjon@optusnet.com.au> >To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010203222649.00a190d0@mail.optusnet.com.au> >Subject: [SH] Civil Registration for Deaths >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I have a film number for the LDS re Irish civil Registrations, for deaths for 1900-1902. If I order the film, will it have the actual death cert, or will it just be an index of names of deaths which occurred during those years. >Thanks, >Yvonne >

I was wondering if anyone could do a lookup for me for an enumeration district number. I would like to buy a Heritage Quest CD for Hampden County, Massachusetts, but there is more than one. I need the enumeration district number in order to know which CD to purchase. I'm looking for JOHN F. O'ROURKE, of Holyoke, MA. I believe the Soundex code is R-620. Thanks in anticipation of your help. Patsy

Use a search engine with the words "Ireland history" and you will find a ton of resources for Irish history or Irish heritage. My personal favorite is wwwvms.utexas.edu/~jdana/irehist.html Ellen Julie Whitaker wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry but I am not up on the History Of Ireland and was wondering what the Young Ireland Movement was. I have not heard of it before. > > I am tracing Dolans, they left Ireland in ? for England and John Dolan had a son in Manchester in 1849/50. I was led to believe that they left because of the Potato Famine but wonder if the Young Ireland Movement had something to do with it. > > Regards > > Julie > Perth WA > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** To contact the listowner send a > message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net **

Here's a good read on the Rising of 1848: http://www.irlnet.com/aprn/archive/1998/July30/30hist.html Julie B.

Hi, Sorry but I am not up on the History Of Ireland and was wondering what the Young Ireland Movement was. I have not heard of it before. I am tracing Dolans, they left Ireland in ? for England and John Dolan had a son in Manchester in 1849/50. I was led to believe that they left because of the Potato Famine but wonder if the Young Ireland Movement had something to do with it. Regards Julie Perth WA

Hi Looking for information on CATHERINE WALLACE, Married John mahony in the Roman catholic parish of Ballybricken & Bohermore on the 23rd of February 1851 COUNTY OF LIMERICK. ROBERT MAHONEY ......................................................................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................................................................ BOB MAHONEY ..................................................................

LOCAL.IE announced today that on Feb. 7th they will have online availability of 2 million records. Irish births and marriages, etc. See it at; www.local.ie or after Feb. 7th at; www.irishfamilyrecords.com

Would anyone know, is it possible to get any information/records regarding school in Ireland, back in the 1850-80 period? I am especially interested in seeeing if there is any information on a relative in Kanturk, Cork. Thank you. Pat

My ggrandfather JOHN MCARDLE , son of JAMES &ELIZA MCARDLE of County Armagh married my ggrandmother JULIA RYAN,daughter of WILLIAM & ANASTASIA RYAN of County Tipperary, Yesterday I found a JULIA RYAN, b 1852 ,Coolmona, IReland. WILLIAM RYAN & ANASTASIA TIERNEY marriage about 1832, Cloughjordan, Tipperary,Ireland. Would anyone know how I can verify if this is my ggrandmother,JULIA RYAN's birth and My GGGrandparents marriage? Thank you, Ann Marie Strileckis P.S. Also found a John Ryan, born August 21,1856 ,Kilcommon,Ireland that could be Julia's brother and William & Anastasia's son.

I am trying to find out who Frederick William HIGGINSON's father was and am wondering if some one would have an Alumni book that would cover this period of time. I have checked at our Society but we do not have the correct book. MEDICAL DIRECTORY 1898: 1898 edition of the Medical Register [United Kingdom], Frederick William Higginson was then residing at Alphington House, St. Saviour's, Jersey. He was first registered as a Doctor on the 9 November 1861 in England. His qualifications were: Midwifery, Royal College of Surgeons Ireland, 1861; Fellow, RCSI, 1882; Licentiate in Medicine, University of Dublin [Trinity College], 1865 Hoping someone can help. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. vbgarton@bigpond.com HAYDEN. HAYES. HIGGINSON. HUGHES. MOFFETT. GAINFORT. OAKSHOTT - all from Dublin or Cork. FITZGIBBON, HURLEY, LEAHY, TARRANT, VAUGHAN - Co Cork

Linking the Irish of Palo Alto Co, IA one record at a time. Obits, census records, military records, newspaper clippings and more! This is where all the Irish are related in one big Family Tree file! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapaloal/paloalto.htm Maria Kane McNally was the wife of my half great granduncle! Anyone else related?? Emmetsburg Democrat Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa March 21, 1935 Mrs. Myles McNally Mrs. Myles McNally, one of the well known aged ladies of Emmetsburg, passed away Thursday of last week. The funeral was held Saturday morning at nine o'clock. Services were conducted in the Assumption church, the pastor, Very Rev. J.T. Finnegan officiating. Interment was in St. John's cemetery. The pall bearers were nephews of the deceased. They were Wm. McNally; Robert McNally, Paul Kerber, Patrick Doerning, Ervin Joynt and Chas. Kane. Marie Kane was born at Roscommon, Ireland, September 8th, 1844. Hence she was 90 years old at the time of her passing. When four years old she came with her parents, the late Mr. and Mrs. Martin Kane, to the United States. They located in Oconomowoc, [Wisconsin], January 27, 1868. Mr. and Mrs. McNally moved to Iowa in May 1871 locating on a farm in Emmetsburg township. In 1899 they retired and moved to the city. Mr. and Mrs. McNally celebrated their golden wedding anniversary in January 1918. Eight children were born to Mr. and Mrs. McNally, three of whom have preceded their mother in death. Mr. McNally passed away January 16, 1929. Surviving are the four daughters-Mrs. M.M. Maher of Hastings, Nebr., Mrs. Larry Murphy of Bonesteel, S.D., Mrs. Dick McNally of Emmetsburg and Mrs. Art Beaudry of St. Cloud, Minn. -and the son, W.T. McNally of this city. A brother, Martin B. Kane, resides at Ayrshire. The passing of Mrs. McNally is to be regretted by the people of this community. She lived to a ripe old age and she was thoroughly acquainted with the early life and the struggles of the pioneers who developed our county from its raw prairies to its presently highly cultivated state. She prided herself in that she likewise endured many of the hardships of pioneer days and that she also was often called upon to make many sacrifices for the common good. As a mother she was kind and indulgent and she went without many of the necessities in order to build with her husband a comfortable estate that her family might never know the meaning of want. She was a kind and obliging neighbor and her acts of generosity were many. She was a faithful member of her church and she lived up to its Christian teachings. During her declining years she was comforted in the thought that she had lived a good life and that she had merited the love and solicitious care of her fond son and daughters as she became more dependent upon them. They, of course, knew her for her real worth. To them her passing is a severe blow. The Democrat unites with many friends in offering sincere sympathy to the bereaved sons and daughters, the brother, and other relatives. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Descendants of Martin Kane (father of Maria Kane) 1 Martin Kane . +Mary Barrett ........ 2 Maria Kane b: 09/08/1843 in Roscommon,Ireland d: 03/13/1935 in Emmetsburg,Iowa Burial: 01/27/1868 St. John's Catholic Cemetery, Emmetsburg,IA ............ +Myles McNally,Jr b: 05/13/1842 in Newport,Mayo,Ireland src: Pension Papers of Myles McNally m: 01/27/1868 in Mapletown,Wisconsin src: 1900 Census-Palo Alto Co. d: 01/16/1929 in Emmetsburg,Iowa ................... 3 Mary Agnes McNally b: 03/29/1871 src: Pension Papers of Myles McNally ....................... +Michael Maher ................... 3 Anna Elizabeth McNally aka: Fanny b: 04/02/1874 in Palo Alto County, Iowa src: Pension Papers of Myles McNally d: 1961 Burial: St John's Cemetery, Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa ....................... +Lawrence Edward Murphy b: 02/08/1871 in Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa src: Obit m: 11/1887 d: 1938 in Bonesteel, South Dakota src: Obit Burial: St John's Cemetery, Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa ................... 3 John McNally b: 06/11/1876 in Palo Alto County, Iowa src: 1895 Iowa Census-Emmetsburg Township d: 02/03/1879 src: St. John's Cemetery Records ................... 3 William Thomas McNally aka: Thomas b: 08/03/1878 in Palo Alto County, Iowa src: Pension Papers of Myles McNally ....................... +Margaret Collins b: 11/25/1886 in Emmetsburg,Iowa src: Palo Alto Co. Birth Records-Book 4 m: 10/30/1906 in West Bend, Iowa ................... 3 Edward Myles McNally b: 03/23/1881 in Emmetsburg, Palo Alto, Iowa src: Palo Alto County Death Records-Book 3 d: 06/26/1908 in Emmetsburg Iowa src: Palo Alto County Death Records-Book 3 ................... 3 Sarah Ellen McNally aka: Sadie b: 08/28/1883 in Emmetsburg,Iowa src: Pension Papers of Myles McNally d: 1955 src: St. John's Cemetery Records ....................... +Richard Patrick McNally b: Abt. 1883 in Cedar Falls, Iowa m: 09/14/1909 in Emmetsburg,Iowa src: Marriage Records, Book 7, 1909-1915 d: 1951 src: St. John's Cemetery Records ................... 3 Rose McNally b: 03/21/1886 in Emmetsburg Iowa src: Palo Alto Co. Birth Records-Book 4 ....................... +Art Beaudry ........ 2 [1] Martin B Kane b: 11/14/1854 in Neasha, Wisconsin d: 04/06/1935 in Ayrshire, Palo Alto, Iowa src: Obit Burial: Calvary Cemetery/Ayrshire, Iowa ............ +Elizabeth Stanton m: 11/18/1879 in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin d: 08/10/1904 ................... 3 Vincent Kane d: 08/27/1917 in Ulmer, Iowa ................... 3 Martin Kane ................... 3 John Kane ................... 3 Charles Kane ................... 3 Daughter Kane ....................... +V. J. Trusty ................... 3 Daughter Kane ....................... +John Wessar ................... 3 Daughter Kane ....................... +Frank Alexander ................... 3 Daughter Kane ....................... +Dave Latt ........ *2nd Wife of [1] Martin B Kane: ............ +Katherine McGowan m: 06/26/1911 in Ayrshire, Iowa

Eleanor, I don't have a connection to your surnames, but I am curious about Michael Barry's involvement in the Young Ireland Rising of 1848. My gg-grandfather, JAMES POWER, was "compelled" to leave Ireland because of his participation in the group. He settled in Charleston, SC, where he was a president of the Fenian Brotherhood. JAMES POWER was born 1815 in Co. Kilkenny. I wonder if the old boys escaped together? Julie -----Original Message----- From: Eleanor BARRY <elbarry@ultra.net.au> To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:59 PM Subject: [SH] SURNAME INTERESTS > >Hello, I am just reposting my Surnames in the hope that anyone else >researching >them will contact me. > >BARRY Michael Mark, married 1842, in St Finbar's Cathedral to >MURPHY Ellenor(Ellen). We think that michael was part of the Young >Ireland Movement, 1848+ and fled to USA late 1840s or early 1850s. > >FOSTER Allen (Father John) born about 1850 in Abbeyleix, married >RUDD Martha (Father George) in Ferns, Wexford in 1878. > >Eleanor. > > >==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >** Remember! No flames, chain >letters, virus warnings or other off >topic posts should be sent to the >SHAMROCK list ** > >

Where would I find Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 please? I am looking for a Householder by the name of MICHAEL O'CONNOR....he would have been dead by 1883 but alive in 1856..area in Ireland would be Co Cork...might be Co Kildare but his son was br in Co Cork for sure in 1856. This Householder was the occupation of the father/dead on the Marriage registration of his son Michael to Elizabeth Kane in Oct of 1882... they were married in the Roman Catholic chapel of Allen, reg district Kilmeague, union of Naas in County Kildare. Michale is listed as being from Mylerstown Co Kildare same as Elizabeth is... Have been led to understand a Householder was one that owned land in Ireland paid taxes and could vote...if wrong can someone correct me please... Thank you SLC

Hello, I am just reposting my Surnames in the hope that anyone else researching them will contact me. BARRY Michael Mark, married 1842, in St Finbar's Cathedral to MURPHY Ellenor(Ellen). We think that michael was part of the Young Ireland Movement, 1848+ and fled to USA late 1840s or early 1850s. FOSTER Allen (Father John) born about 1850 in Abbeyleix, married RUDD Martha (Father George) in Ferns, Wexford in 1878. Eleanor.