Hello, I have found a record of Patrick O'Rourke as "immigrating" in 1865 to the USA. This info was on a census record so it is only as true as the person who gave the info had knowledge BUT could someone help me with info on what ports in the US I should search. As I recall there were many more "customs ports" in 1865 for immigrants than there are now. It is "likely" (myth/oral history) that he came to Calif by way of Boston, but we are not sure. Are there ships records where I came search? Lynn Combs Reseaching: IRE: Crosby, Duffy, Donovan (Bandon, Cork, parish unk), Murphy, Ryan (Tipp., no city or Parish known), O'Rourke. (also Combs (Devon/London), Kirk (scotland-antrim, NIRE))

Good Evening: Could anyone tell me if census records date back to the 1830's in Ireland? If not, what was the first year for census record keeping? Is there any information available to the public that can be searched on-line? Thank you. Harold and Pat Akers acsc@interlog.com

Dr. Edward MacLysaght in his book "Surnames of Ireland" says: JOYNT, a Huguenot name (Fr. le joint) slim, graceful. Formerly well-known in both Cos. Limerick and Mayo. Family lore also says we are of Huguenot origin, descended from William Joynt, Sheriff of Limerick c. 1659. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmlabath/joynt7.htm I have not yet found proof of my Joynt/Joint family being of Huguenot origin; however, in the pursuit of proof I have accumulated various documents and I have transcribed the following: The Irish Pensioners of William III's Huguenot Regiments, 1702. >From Huguenot Society of London Proceedings, Vol. 6, No. 3, Nov. 1899 1. Dering's Covering Report 2. The Abstract ABSTRACT OF THE EXAMINATION OF THE FRENCH PENSIONERS NOW ON THE CIVIL LIST OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF IRELAND To be found at: http://home.att.net/~cmlabath/huguenotpensioners.htm Cathy Joynt Labath Researching Joynt/Joint anytime,anywhere. Joynt/Joint Family Chronicles http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmlabath/joynt.htm A Little Bit of Ireland http://home.att.net/~labaths/

1st son---father's father 2nd son--mother's father 3rd son--father 4th son--father's eldest brother 5th son--mother's eldest brother 1st dau--mother's mother 2nd dau--father's mother 3rd dau--mother 4th dau--mother's eldest sister 5th dau--father's eldest sister ===== Genealogy = disturbing the dead and irritating the living. Looking to disturb surnames FOLEY, COUGHLIN, DAVEY, CORCORAN, MCGRATH, O'NEILL. Please contact me with any info regarding names in Jersey City or Co. Clare, Ireland. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Birth Records in the Family History Library Catalog are for 1864-1881 and 1900-1955 (note the gaps 1882-1899 and 1913-1930 in the FHLC but not in Dublin). Some pages are missing from 1869: p. 49-50 (gap between Carroll, John, of Dungannon and Carvill, James Richard, of Limerick; and all pages following Thompson, Elenor Jane, of Belfast. Certificates for births, marriages and deaths are housed in Dublin: General Register Office, Joyce House, 8-11 Lombard St. East, Dublin 2 Foreign applications: Fees are payable in Irish pound currency, Draft I.E.P. or Euro checks or bank drafts drawn on an Irish Bank, made payable to the Registrar General. Sterling checks, Postal Orders, US$ checks are accepted. The minimum amount for a check drawn on a non-Irish bank is 12.70 Euro. I bundle my requests so that I meet the minimum fee. A photocopy of an entry will contain the same details as a certificate but is not suitable for administrative matters. However, it is ideal for genealogical purposes. Photocopy (including search fee) is Irpunts 3.0 and Certificate (including search fee) is Irpunts 5.50. http://eurotrip.com/exchangerates.html or http://quote.yahoo.com/m3?u or http://www3.travelocity.com/converter/ to get the currency exchange rate for the day as it is changing weekly. Certificates (B, M, D) IR5.50 US$6.00 Photocopy of an entry in Register 3.00 3.30 When index reference is Supplied 1.50 1.65 Short Birth Certificate 3.50 3.85 Authentication of a certificate 1.50 1.55 Postage: United Kingdom & Ireland IRL .50 (E).63 All other countries: 1.00 1.27 Ellen Copyright Ó 2000 Ellen Naliboff S Murphy wrote: > > G'Day~~ > I'm at a brickwall and not sure where to turn next. My grandfather > Thomas John O'SULLIVAN was born 22-July-1894. The only factual > information I have is that his parents were Edward O'Sullivan and > Bridget (nee O'Sullivan) O'Sullivan. > My problem is that Thomas' birthday falls in the civil records gap. > Does anybody have any advice on how to locate his parents info? > Or does anyone have a link on this family? > Thank you in advance, > <smilin> > Clanny > > -- > <Smilin> > Clanny > Visit my page at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clannymurphy/ > > _____________________________________ > > Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > **Civil Registration began in Ireland > in 1864. Before that time, you will > need to access parish registers. See > http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints **

G'Day~~ I'm at a brickwall and not sure where to turn next. My grandfather Thomas John O'SULLIVAN was born 22-July-1894. The only factual information I have is that his parents were Edward O'Sullivan and Bridget (nee O'Sullivan) O'Sullivan. My problem is that Thomas' birthday falls in the civil records gap. Does anybody have any advice on how to locate his parents info? Or does anyone have a link on this family? Thank you in advance, <smilin> Clanny -- <Smilin> Clanny Visit my page at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clannymurphy/ _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com

*Please* be aware that any "naming pattern" for any country is only a guide established after the fact and was -not- written in stone, nor were people forced to follow it. People named their children whatever they wanted to. Informal studies I believe have proven that the Irish "naming pattern" is not followed as many times as it is, so use it with a large grain of salt. The danger in taking it as "gospel" is I hear from people all the time who say " I thought I found my ___ but since they don't fit the naming pattern I ignored that information". there is a printed version of the naming pattern on the Fianna site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Records are kept at port of -arrival- not port of departure. You will need to search the port of arrival records. Depending on where this is, this can be either easy or difficult. In that time frame generally it will be difficult. In the US you can use _The Famine Immigrants_ book (available at local genealogy libraries, not the FHC) as a -guide only- as even the authors admit to mistakes, omissions etc, but you will be wise to confirm anything you find with a peek at the actual ship manifest OR just use indexes to arrivals for that port of arrival. Many ports have indexes in that time frame, even NY, but depending on the surname it is very difficult to tell one person from another. On my Helpful Hints page there are sections on how to search NY arrivals and other US ports. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Hi Listers: Recently several people have asked about detailed maps. While I'm sure there must be other places in the US to get them, one place I know (and one with a website to learn more) is the Irish Genealogical So, Intl. PO Box 16585 St Paul, MN 55116 The maps are $8.00 each, plus shipping of $1.00 for 1st map and .50 ea add. map. You can find details of which map covers where at their website: www.rootsweb.com/~irish Follow the links: IGSI Resources> IGSI Bookstore> Maps for Sale For Fermanagh I recommend the Discovery Series Maps which are the most detailed--and are beautiful! They include lots of detail--cairns, graveyards, names of townlands (though not townland borders) monuments, almost everything down to buildings and dirt tracks--everything but the cows and the chickens! Incidentally, the GSI also publishes a terrific quarterly newsletter and is an organization worth joining. Have fun! Janet C-S (PS: You may get more than one copy of this if you are on several lists.)

would someone list how children were named? for instance: the first son named after the father's father, etc. i failed to take note of this important info. many thanks in advance. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Good afternoon......I am trying to find the arrival date from Ireland of William and Alice Lynch. The date could be as early as 1838-9. They arrived in America with two children ,Ann ( 4)and Martin ( 2 ). are there records of families leaving Ireland in that time frame? Thank you for any help... Jacqueline jacroing67@aol.com Searching for: Ingalls, Fossum, Myer, Bartosh, Skalisky,Howard,Grimm/Grim, Fawver, Stone, Briscoe, Lynch, Gibson, Fenn, Nettleton, Beall, Phillips and Numbers

The easiest way to find mailing lists and information on individual counties in Ireland is to go to the IrelandGenWeb project http://www.irelandgenweb.com and look at the chart which will list each county page, mailing list, and query board. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Thank you everyone for responding with so many good definitions. for "furnas". Since so many words and names are abbreviated in Irish records, the first of the following seems to fit in with the medieval record that I was reading. Several people also suggested #1. Go raibh maith (thank you) for all your excellent ideas. 1. It is short for furnishings. That is, the medieval equivalent of saddle and harness. Those items were very expensive in those days. 2. My Latin Dictionary gives "fornus" and "furnus" as meaning "oven". The quotes could be because they knew they were using a Latin term. Slan go foill, Margaret (Mairead)

FEBRUARY 2001 IRISH OBITUARY UPDATEm pt. 2 This is an extraction from OBITUARY DAILY TIMES, based on an association to Ireland, shown here as "IRL." 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Can any one give me the dates for HEIRTAGE WEEK in Ireland, I believe it is in early Sept. We want to arrange a tour for the TRI STATE IRISH SOCIETY OF NY,NJ,PA. Thanks one and all Lorraine Conroy

In a message dated 2/9/01 8:01:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, Darryl at dscarff@ozemail.com.au writes: << Where exactly are the Slieve Luachra mountains located? I have been told that they separate Co.Kerry & Co. Limerick. Is this so? >> Darryl, This has bothered me for many months - to the point where I just asked the good members of the Irish Placenames list for assistance (after being reminded by your question). The Slieve/Sliabh Luachra "area" is, as you mention, the area along the border between the two counties, in the Rathmore - Gneevgullia area. What has always bothered me is the "sliabh"- part; because there aren't any mountains there. Farther south, we have the Paps and some others, but they're not know as Sliabh Luachra either. When I find out, I'll let you know. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

In a message dated 2/9/01 1:04:23 PM, conaught@ix.netcom.com writes: << Possibly it means just furnace, but would they have had a furnace in 1640 and don't understand why quote marks would be around the word. >> Hmmn. From the context, I'd have said furnace in the modern sense is not what is meant. However, my Webster's Collegiate Dictionary includes for furnace, the etymology giving furnas from the Middle English! So maybe something like a portabe fireplace, or something as part of a fireplace?? Sounds like it must be something portable. Janet

I have added more marriages for the following surnames to: IRISH MARRIAGES BEING AN INDEX TO THE MARRIAGES IN WALKER'S HIBERNIAN MAGAZINE 1771 to 1812 By Henry Farrar; London, England; 1890 http://home.att.net/~labaths/irish_marriages.htm Stokes Drew Drought Clement / Clements Begg Bellew Dowdeswell Nugent Lee Bridgman Leslie Trousdell Clohesy Whelan Sexton Keys Woodroffe hartigan O'Loghlin Briscoe

My Latin Dictionary gives "fornus" and "furnus" as meaning "oven". The quotes could be because they knew they were using a Latin term. ----- Original Message ----- From: "conaught" <conaught@ix.netcom.com> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: [SH] Meaning of a Medieval Term? > Does anyone know the meaning of "furnas" as used during the Medieval times. > I am reading the Dowdall Deeds and there is a listing in 1640 and the word > furnas has quotes around it. I've looked at various medieval glossary > websites and can't find it. Possibly it means just furnace, but would they > have had a furnace in 1640 and don't understand why quote marks would be > around the word. > > The following is the exerpt: > Christopher agrees that after this death Stephen shall have the chief and > best cup of his plate, his best horse and the "furnas" in Castleton for > principals. Stephen shall give his said brother Charles the "furnas" and > the clock in Killaly, and shall have the clock in Castleton himself. > > Go raibh maith agat (thank you) for any help that you can offer regarding > this word. > > Slan go foill, > Margaret (Mairead) > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Please remember - no flames, chain > letters, virus warnings or off topic > posts are allowed on the SHAMROCK > list ** > >

In a message dated 2/9/01 11:51:26 AM, cbrack2@juno.com writes: << How do I find the individual Irish county mail lists? >> Go to CyndisList for Ireland: http://www.CyndisList.com/ireland.htm On the Category Index, click on Mailing Lists. Have fun! Janet C-S