H i My gfather took out his first papers in August 1865. He apparently came to Pottsville, PA to work in the coal mines, probably at the invitation of some one whom he knew. How would I find the ship or ships that came to Phila. in 1865, from Canada? My gfather was born in Ireland, but raised in Canada. Jerome J. McDERMOTT

PATRICK HERBERT (b ~ 1830) married to BRIDGET (b ~ 1827) Ballina or Foxford Co Mayo moved with their family to Burnley, Lancashire, England between 1861 and 1871 Their children all born in Ireland PATRICK HERBERT (1849) married MARY CARROLL (1852) in 1870 JOHN HERBERT (1850) married KATE QUINN (born sometime between 1841 and 1850) in 1875 ANTHONY HERBERT (1852) married CATHERINE NOON (1862) in 1881 WINEFRIDE HERBERT ( 1854) married JOHN DURKIN/DURCAN (1851) in 1872- father Patrick MARY HERBERT (1855) married ESAU LEACH (1854) in 1874 ANNE HERBERT (1857) married THOMAS DURKIN/DURCAN (1852) in 1877 - father Patrick All marriages took place in Burnley. KATE QUINN (John Herbert's sife) - also called Catherine/ Terina - Mother MARY CAULKING/CULKIN father possibly PATRICK QUINN was dead by 1853 may have come from Ballina or Foxford Co Mayo or may have come from Galway. ANNE QUINN - sister of KATE (1843) MARY QUINN nee CAULKING - father PATRICK CAULKING mother MARY married PATRICK FLEMING in Burnley in 1852 Any connections? If so, I would love to hear from you. Regards Brenda Barrowford, Lancashire Researching BANKS - Burnley, Rawtenstall, BARNES - Colne, Burnley, Haslingden BEECHAM - London BENN - Bradford/Pudsey/Wibsey in Yorkshire BOOCOCK - Bradford/Pudsey/Wibsey in Yorkshire CASE - London, St.Ives (Huntingdonshire), Doncaster, Howard CASE, - Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada. 1893 - 1914 George & Grace CASE - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. 1870's DURKIN - Burnley and Ireland - don't know where HERBERT - Lancashire, Ireland (possibly Mayo ) HUSTLER - Bradford/Pudsey/Wibsey in Yorkshire HUSTLER - Lancashire INMAN - Colne, Lancashire and possibly Yorkshire. NEALE - Doncaster, Liverpool, Farnborough (Warwickshire), Kent, Somerset. QUINN - Burnley, Lancashire and possibly Mayo, but could be Galway. SUGDEN - Bradford/Pudsey/Wibsey in Yorkshire

Jeremiah Crowley was born in County Cork in 1787. He came to New York and went up into Canada and settled in Prescott, Ontario. He married Mary O'Brien in 1830s and had children Ellen, Mary, James, John Joseph. John Joseph was my great-grandfather and came to Chicago and married Mary Ann O'Keefe. James supposedly worked as a seaman on the St. Lawrence and later came to Chicago. I can't find him either in New York or Chicago. My great-uncle wrote a short family biography, but I can't document any of the early parts on Jeremiah and James. James's son James married a Mary or Margaret Lennon. Any connections? Ideas? Clare

Please note I know nothing further of the persons in this obit. I just like going through old newspapers (via interlibrary loan) to look for some tidbits on my ancestors. Whenever I see an obit mentioning any Irish born person I copy and transcribe hoping it may connect with someone else... Mt Pleasant Weekly News Mt. Pleasant, Henry Co, Iowa Wednesday Feb 5, 1896 PETER O'LOUGHLIN DEAD Mr. Peter O'Loughlin, one of the staunch business men of Henry county, a man, who, by natural ability and untiring energy arose from the conditions of a comparatively poor man, to wealth and influence, died at his home in Rome on Sunday evening about 10 o'clock. Mr. O'Loughlin has been an invalid for a great many years, and his demise was really a blessing to him. His case was a peculiar one, and no hopes were entertained from the beginning that he would ever recover. The immediate cause of death was pneumonia. Peter O'Loughlin was born in the County Clare, Ireland, in 1839. While yet a young man he emigrated to America and settled in New Jersey in 1857. In 1858 he came west and settled in Henry county, at Rome, then a stirring village. He received a business education in Burlington and afterward entered the flooring business firm of O'Loughlin Bros. His heart feeling the emotions of love too strong to withstand, his mind naturally reverted to Old Ireland the land of his birth, and the home of his loved one. In 1865 he went home to Ireland and secured his bride. He was married to Miss Margaret Quinn. This good couple were blessed with six children. The elder daughter, the mother's namesake, passed from life a few years ago and left a void in the family circle. The other children, Michael, James, Peter, Jr., Patrick and Marie, were present at the bedside of their father. Mr. O'Loughlin, while in health, before the sad affliction befel him, was recognized as being one of the best financiers and business men in the county. He was noted for his integrity and honor. His word was as good as his bond. His friends were many and true. His good wife, during the whole period of his infirmity has been a noble and true support. Her life must have been sad, but how sweet to think she did her very best. Her reward will be great. The funeral services took place at St. Alphonsus Catholic church this morning, Rev. Father Bassler conducting the services. his remains were laid to rest in the Catholic cemetery. Requiescat in Pace. Cathy Joynt Labath A Little Bit of Ireland http://home.att.net/~labaths/ Ireland Newspaper Abstracts -News Coordinator (also Scott, Henry, Palo Alto Cos. in IA) http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ Scott Co, IA USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iascott/scott.htm Palo Alto Co, IA USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapaloal/paloalto.htm Joynt/Joint Family Chronicles (one name study) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmlabath/joynt.htm

GAFFREY/GAFFERY MOFFETT/MOFFIT O'BRIEN GIBBONS All Co. Roscommon. Elizabeth

Does anyone know why the Irish Acre was different than the English acre? Wasn't the Irish gallon also larger than the imperial gallon? Dan

HOARE------------Dublin 1797 ---1870 REILLY------------Dublin 1840 ---1880 EADES ------------Dublin 1800 ---1870 BEIRNE------------Elphin 1790 ---1860 ELWOOD----------Elphin 1800 ---1860 O'BRIEN-----------Dublin 1790 ---1850 McCABE-----------Sligo 1817 ---1840 McCABE-----------Dublin 1790 ---1850 STENSON---------Sligo 1800 ---1850 Therese, in Queensland, Australia.

We have been trying to find records of birth and marriage of John Williams( Abt 1845) and Mary Howard(Abt 1848) and their first child, Hillary, (Abt 1863) in Dublin City. The previous info was fron the 1871 Census of Goosnarg, Lancashire, England and later in the 1881 Census of Everton, Liverpool. Siblings were Mary 1868, Austin 1870, Frances 1872, Sarah A. 1877 and Josephine 1880. Several other children were born to them-Herbert and Winifred, but could not find then at their previous address in 1891. Seeking any resources or siblings/parents of JohnWilliams and Mary Howard. Thank you. Joyce

I am searching for CORNELIUS FOX, born about 1745, in Ireland. He may be related to the Fox of Kilcoursey family. He signed his "Last Will and Testament" as Cornelius Fox-Sion... ( Can't read the rest due to an inkblot), but the consilitator of the Fox name points out that what he refered to was the Sionnagh family,also a letter written by his grand-daughter tells that he had a watch with the Crest of Brassil Fox inscribed on the back of it. I would appreciate any and all help in finding his birth-place and parents, in Ireland. He was a well educated person and was assigned as a schoolmaster in Nova Scotia, by th SPG ( The Society for Propregation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts) 1766-97. Can you help, Please!

> Does anyone know why the Irish Acre was different than the English acre? > Wasn't the Irish gallon also larger than the imperial gallon? One story I heard years ago was that the English judged the taxes and tithes based on the total acreage one owned, and so the Irish acre was larger. They jokingly say the English rulers didn't wise for years. Never examined the truth of it. And don't know about the gallon Gus

Bridget Walpole m Christopher Hoppner 1860 Australia Ellen Walpole, convict to Tas 1852 m John Smith Both daughters of John Walpole & Bridget Brown John McMahon m Jane Cook emigrated 1841 with 6 children to Australia Joan Traill

Cromwell paid off his troops and supporters in land which he confiscated. Thus, the Irish acre was smaller than the English acres. Thus the illusion that they were receiving a greater piece of property than the reality. Makes for a good story. . . Ellen Jpintard@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know why the Irish Acre was different than the English acre? > > Wasn't the Irish gallon also larger than the imperial gallon? > > Dan > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > **Civil Registration began in Ireland > in 1864. Before that time, you will > need to access parish registers. See > http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints **

A friend sent this to me. May God grant you always... A sunbeam to warm you, A moonbeam to charm you, A sheltering angel So nothing can harm you... Laughter to cheer you, Faithful friends near you, And whenever you pray, Heaven to hear you. Happy St Patrick's Day! Elaine in Oregon

A = Acre; R= Rood; P = Perch. Acre is a measure of 4840 sq. yds (the Irish measure was 7840 sq. yds. now obsolete). Rood is the fourth part of an acre or forty sq. poles (a sq. pole is 30 1/4 sq. yds. In linear measure it is 5 1/2 yds). Perch is a measure of 30 1/4 sq. yds. Also a linear measure of 5 1/2 yds., or 16 1/2 feet; the same as pole. Both the Pole and the Perch are a measuring rod; usually a length of timber. The term "rod" is reserved for a fixed physical measuring instrument. In land measure a "rod" is the same length as "pole" and "perch". I'm not aware of the term being used in place of "rood"? Jim McDonald culrua@iol.ie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Shelly" <mcshelly2@msn.com> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [SH] RFI-Irish acreage > Pardon me, what is a perch? Is it a measurement or one of those huge bird > houses? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JDMUMM@aol.com> > To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SH] RFI-Irish acreage > > > > Hello: > > > > > > The R stands for Rod. and the P stands for perches. > > > > John the Irishman from Texas. > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > *** Helpful Hints for Successful > Searching > http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints ** > >

Any info on subject line names appreciated. Yvonne.Loughnan@xtra.co.nz

Michael Coyle born in County Cavan(location unknown)in 1803.Mary O'Neill born 1808. Michael came to U.S. in 1828.Unsure of when they married. They had at least 4 children-Matthew born 1837 in Utica, NY, Mary 1844 in PA, Michael 1846 in PA, John 1849 in PA. In the 1860's and 1870's they were in Wilkes Barre,PA. Mary Carolton was born in 1856 location unknown. married Thomas Bowe an English horse trainer and had a daughter Catherine in 1876. Thomas was killed when kicked in the chest by a horse. Mary married James Phelan and they came to US in 1882. They first went to Buffalo N.Y. and then to Youngstown Ohio. Catherine married Patrick Walsh( born in Cty. Kerry about 1872) in 1894 in Ohio. They moved to Pittsburgh in early 1900's and Patrick Walsh became a policeman. Catherine died in 1909,having given birth to 7 children. Patrick married Mary Mogan about 1912 in Pittsburgh. He died in 1931. Hoping for a connection. Ellie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

R=Rood and P =Perches .Anne IN IRELAND

A half-acre of Ireland at Battery Park City, in other words, to serve as a memorial to the potato famine of the 1840's that drove hundreds of thousands of Irish immigrants to New York. Full story at http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/15/arts/15MEMO.html? Gus Ellis I had already sent this message about 12 hours ago but I never saw it on the list. If this a duplicate message and you saw the original - Please email me.

James at JIMB856@aol.com writes: << Co. Galway including towns of Athenry, and Loughlea or Colesmanstown. I'm looking for any information about a place called Licklea Mill, probably near Colesmanstown. >> James, I'm going to assume that the Loughlea is actually Loughrea (I can't find any Loughlea), because a Loughlea could be near a Loughlea Mill <g>. The small town/townland of Colmanstown (it has a postoffice so, by some standards, it is also a town) has a small stream passing through it called, conveniently, Mill Stream. It crosses one of the town's "main" roads - going to the NW from Colmanstown "center" - about 300 yards from the intersection with two other roads, near the postoffice and public phonebooth. The central area of the town is shown at 589 384 on Discovery map 46. There are no current buildings shown in the townland alongside of the Mill Stream, but there are two small collections of buildings within a hundred yards of the stream - one near Mill Stream itself where it crosses the first road I mentioned, to the NW (which connects Colmanstown with the R 339 road, a bit over a mile away. The other small collection buildings is about 3/4 of a mile east of the town center, near an un-named branch of the Mill Stream. This group is at 598 384. But no townland or identification on this map of a Licklea Mill. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hi On an Ireland tour brochure that I recently received they mentioned a performance of the Siamsa. What is the Siamsa? JJMcD