My great-grandfather, Peter Kelly, was born in Townland of Meedian (Irish-Meeden), Civil Parish of Clonfad, Catholic Parish of Rochfortbridge, Barony of Fartullagh, Co. Westmeath in 1842. His father was Michael Kelly and mother was Ann McDonnell. In searching Tithe Applotment and subsequent valuation lists, I haven't found a Kelly listing in this 24-family community - obviously, they did not come from that Townland originally. I did find a McDonnell family, however. Inasmuch as Michael Kelly was rumored to have been a soldier, probably stationed in nearby Mullingar, I think that Ann McDonnell went to a McDonnell relatives home to have her baby, Peter Kelly. I'm interested in researching the following: 1) finding the original Townland of my Kelly ancestors so I can include these Kellys' in my family history. All I have now is that Peter Kelly was born in Meedian. It is apparent that my Kellys' did not originate in Meedian. 2) Peter Kellys' siblings, if any, in Meedian. 3) Ann McDonnell's parents and siblings in Meedian. Has anyone done any research on these names in the Mullingar or Meedian areas? If so, I will gladly exchange my information on the New York branch of the Kelly family. Further, does anyone know the names and addresses of any priest contacts in the Catholic parish of Rochfortbridge, the Catholic Church in Mullingar and librarians in the library in Mullingar, so I can correspond with them? Lastly, since I have never had to ask for church records before, do I make a "donation" to the priest, parish, etc.? If so, how much money should I send? Can it be by personal check, cash, Irish money? Do I send international postal coupons with my initial letter to make sure I get a reply? Thanks, John M. Kelly jmk_07628@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Grateful for details as name not a usual Irish name. Could you poss. give any more details of your source for the name in Donegal? Indeed any clues welcome. Thanks for time and contact. Unfortunately my server not accepting your url.! Puzzled as to this will query . Kath.

Hi Marcena Have only found spelling of Radaca once & it was on the 1850 Census for St. Clair Co. Michigan. Have you tried this site? http://www.omen.com.au/~lumac/namerad.html it has lots of different spellings. My Rattigans (Rhadigan) came to Michigan St. Clair Co. area about 1850. I believe they left Liverpoole 1839 to New York then Canada before coming to the Michigan. James & Mary Rattigan had several sons & a daughter born in Canada with last 2 daughter being born in Michigan ,1st one in 1852.Are any of your Rattigans in Michigan? have not looked for all the brother & sisters of my grandfather Charles Rhadigan,his father was Thomas with James & Mary as Thomas' parents Maybe we can connect?? Sue. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Marcenath@aol.com> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: [SH] RATIGAN > Sue > There is still another way of spelling Ratigan, Rattigan. I have > never seen it spelled Radaca. Thank you. Now I can start looking for that > spelling also. > Marcena > Surnames: RATIGAN, DRURY, GARRIGHAN, CODY, MURRAY. > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Visit TIARA for many helpful links > http://www.tiara.ie ** > >

Well, I think I have the beginnings of the THE IRISH IN IOWA page up now. So far I have most of the Irish born "A" surnames from the 1880 IA Soundex and the Irish born from the 1875 Patron's Index of the Illustrated Historical Atlas of the State of IA. I have lots more...but I'm not retired yet so time is limited... Your contributions to the page also gratefully accepted no matter how small. Ideas are also always welcome. The Irish in Iowa http://www.rootsweb.com/~iarecrds/ IA-IRISH list IA-IRISH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Cathy

For information on obtaining birth, marriage and death records (including how to get them, and what information they contain) 1864 +see the section on Irish Civil Registration under the Irish Hints section on my Helpful Hints page, url below. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Holidays over, back to search. MERCHANT family clues needed, they emerged in Westport,Co Mayo in early 1800's. ALSO, Richard McLOUGHLIN lived in Annacarty, Co Tipperary during late 1800's to poss, 1930's. ALSO his wife's family (O) Reilly who lived in Annacarty and Dundrum area during1800's and 1900's. Any clues appreciated. Kath.

--part1_33.1268e654.27ec0ef0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In case other Beattie researchers are interested: Patricia Snyder --part1_33.1268e654.27ec0ef0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Shadancer@aol.com> From: Shadancer@aol.com Full-name: Shadancer Message-ID: <3c.931eb3c.27ec0e75@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:27:01 EST Subject: Beattie To: kdonnelly@socal.rr.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 Hi Kathleen, Saw your post on the Shamrock list and thought I'd share this with you. My grandfather J.Y. Snyder, Sr. married twice, and his second wife was a daughter of John Beattie O'Kelley. I am not researching this family but I have forwarded your post to someone who is researching the O'Kelleys. I am not really related to them, other than my uncle is their cousin (half brother to my father), but we are sharing data, especially when we find something of interest to one another. My grandfather was a native of Louisiana and his second wife was too. Perhaps Cle can help you with this family or know someone who can. Good luck, Patricia Snyder --part1_33.1268e654.27ec0ef0_boundary--

To the Administrator of list/messages: I notice that my message has an incomplete email address the correct one is kdonnelly@socal.rr.com kdonnelly46@yahoo.com If you could possibly rerun the posting again, with the correct info. Thanks, Kathleen This is re:BEATTIE FAMILY ----- Original Message ----- From: kathleen donnelly <kdonnelly@socal.rr.com> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: [SH] Beattie Family > My grandfather Patrick J. Beattie was born in Portadown, Co. Armagh. He was reared a Catholic but was probably from a mixed marriage. He joined the British Army and served in the Boer War and WW1. He came to Belfast and married my grandmother Catherine Matthews. I would appreciated hearing from anyone who knows anything about the family or name. Thank you in advance for any help. > Kathleen Donnelly > Northridge, CA 91324 > > ______________________________

F.Y.I.- Just started today-a new list to discuss the Irish born who settled in Iowa. The goal is to help find Iowa records for those Irish settlers that will help further research in Ireland. If you wish to subscribe send email with the single word subscribe in the body to IA-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com I hope to have a website with records soon (maybe this weekend) Cathy Joynt Labath A Little Bit of Ireland http://home.att.net/~labaths/ Joynt/Joint Family Chronicles (one-name study) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmlabath/joynt.htm News Coordinator for Ireland and Henry, Palo Alto and Scott Cos in IA (coming soon-transcriptions from 1840s Connacht Journal and Ballina Chronicle) http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/ Palo Alto Co, IA USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapaloal/paloalto.htm Scott Co, IA USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iascott/scott.htm

Don't know if it will help you any but there were Merchants in Donegal in the early 1800's. More specifically around Culdaff in Inishowen. This is about 25 miles straight north of Londonderry City. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kath" <kathb@xtra.co.nz> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: [SH] Seeking -Merchant/McLoughlin/Reilly. > Holidays over, back to search. MERCHANT family clues needed, they emerged in Westport,Co Mayo in > early > 1800's. ALSO, Richard McLOUGHLIN lived in Annacarty, Co Tipperary during late 1800's > to > poss, 1930's. ALSO his wife's family (O) Reilly who lived in Annacarty and Dundrum area during1800's > and > 1900's. Any clues appreciated. Kath. > > > > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > *** Helpful Hints for Successful > Searching > http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints ** > >

Our Beattie here was a RC priest that was susposed to be a convert. He was Fr. Dixon Beattie. Jim from Arlington, VA. jimb856@Aol.Com

Thomas (aka John Thomas) MULVANEY b; abt 1850 Ireland (Dublin?) > Bolton Lancashire England - married Elizabeth PHETHEAN 1872 - family emigrated to Philadelphia abt 1866/67. Benjamin CURRAN b: about 1808 Ireland? Mother possibly Margaret CURRAN - married Sarah KENNISON/KENISON 1827 St. Paul d'Abbotsford Quebec Canada

My grandfather Patrick J. Beattie was born in Portadown, Co. Armagh. He was reared a Catholic but was probably from a mixed marriage. He joined the British Army and served in the Boer War and WW1. He came to Belfast and married my grandmother Catherine Matthews. I would appreciated hearing from anyone who knows anything about the family or name. Thank you in advance for any help. Kathleen Donnelly Northridge, CA 91324

Friends-- is there a STIPE on line whose family has connections with Leadville, Colorado, and with either the LEO or McNAMARA names? Thanks. Mary Mary Alma Sullivan <msulliv@orion.it.luc.edu Fax: 773-973-2989

BARRY - Wexford; BROOKS-Ballymahon, Co. Longford; BYRNE-Co Meath; CODE (CODD) Kildare; JOYCE - Mayo; MALLETT (MILLETT) - Mayo; MOONEY - Dublin; MOONEY- Galway Wally@brooks1938.fsnet.co.uk

Apologies for a long posting, but I'm still in catch up mode. There is now over 300 pages on this site. My thanks to the submitters who have given me permission to use their postings. To use the County Cork Web Page http://www.sci.net.au/userpages/mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm Use the Find facility for a particular surname or place, or, choose one of the categories at the top of the page. The Find facility allows you to AND (all words) or OR (any) words. The following categories have been updated. These new pages have been indexed by the robot for the FreeFind facility. BOOKS - This City of Cork: 1700-1900 - The Land and People of Nineteenth Century Cork - Priests and People in Pre-Famine Ireland 1780-1845 BOOKSHOPS - abe books world's largest network of independent booksellers World's largest source of out-of-print books. CEMETERY - Irish ancestor site. This site gives lists of published headstones, estate records, directories, and other useful information. Link submitted by Michael Cronin. CHURCH - Cork RC Parish addresses - Fr. Owen Cashman of Rath & the Islands passed away in 1999. - Sacred Heart, Cork City. - Holy Trinity (Christ Church) 1643-1699 the Cork register of the parish of Holy Trinity (Christ Church) 1643-1699, which has just been published. Link submitted by Denis Grant to Co. Cork mailing list. - Local Catholic Church History and Genealogy Ireland. Michael Cronin added in the Co. Cork mailing list that under the entry for Cork this includes the addresses for the Presentation Convents. - Mercy Nuns arrived in San Francisco in 1854 came from the Mercy convent in Kinsale which was established in 1849. Links submitted by Jerry Dwyer to Co. Cork mailing list. - SS Peter & Paul, Baptisms, Surnames: Burke, Connor, Devereux, Flynn, Halloran, Jeffers, Jeffords, O'Brien, Sullivan. Submitted by Mary McNally. ** Not posted to any mailing list. - Walker's Hibernian Magazine By Henry Farrar; London, England; 1890. Irish Marriages Being An Index To The Marriages In 1771 To 1812. Link submitted by Cathy Joynt Labath to Shamrock list. CIVIL - Registration districts for Cork submitted by Gus Ellis to Shamrock mailing list. DATABASES - LOCAL.IE announced they have online availability of 2 million records. Irish births and marriages, etc. Irish Births (1864 - 1900, Partial) Irish Marriages (1864 - 1900, Partial) Irish persons recorded in the UK Census of 1881 (Complete) Irish persons recorded in the UK Census of 1851 (Partial) Antrim Census 1851 Link submitted by Pat Traynor to Shamrock mailing list. DIRECTORIES Slater's Directory, 1846 - Midleton (with the Villages of Bailick and Ballinacurra). Submitted by Sheri Delaney ** not posted to any list. GAELIC - DICTIONARIES, LANGUAGE - Some Irish language sites. Links submitted by Barb. - Irish slang terms GRIFFITH'S INDEX - Unions of Fermoy, Mallow and Mitchelstown. Submitted by Anita. ** Not posted to any mailing lists. HISTORY - 1798 The Battle Through Maps. local.ie - Young Ireland Movement - The Rising of 1848. Link submitted by Julie Bradley to the Shamrock list. HOW TO - Acronyms Submitted by Tony Riordin to Shamrock mailing list. - Getting Started Guide local.ie - Overview of Records local.ie LAND - Ponsonby of Inchiquin - landlord. Submitted by Michael Cronin. LDS - Bantry Film Nos. Submitted by Laurel Baker Comments by Amy on how to use these films to follow ownership of land. - Hint on the IGI - Data Entry Can Cause Strays. Submitted by Colin Ferguson to Rootsweb Cork City mailing list. - Hint 1911 Census Numbers - Registration district numbers Submitted by Denis Grant to Rootsweb mailing list. MAILING LISTS - Irish Placename Studies - New Internet Discussion Group & Website - - How To Post In Plain Text Using AOL 6.0 MEDICAL - Cork Hospitals. Irish Medical Directory. Some brief history. MILITARY AND POLICE - Cork Volunteers and the Nationalist movement in general. I've included many documents relating to the Rising, Frongoch and the Tan War. Brian Wickham web site. - 32nd Duke of Cornwall Light Infantry. Link submitted by Michael Cronin to the Co. Cork mailing list. - 'Military Barracks In Ireland' 'This table has been compiled taking the list from the index of 'The Forlorn Hope.' by Kitzmiller and supplementing the entries with other sources. These sources are noted at the end. Additionally, where supplementary material was located on the World Wide Web links have been added in the column labeled Location. These links in many cases show pictures of the barracks and supply useful historical background.' Denis Grant web site. - Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) Records -- How they can help you in your Irish Research Maura Petzolt web site. NEWSPAPERS - Bell & Howell are digitizing the 5.5 billion page images in the UMI® microform vaults-- that's five centuries of rare retrospective information easily accessible with the click of a mouse. Newsrelease. PLACES - Bandon. The History of Bandon and the Principal Towns in the West Riding of County Cork by George Bennett Esq B.L. and published by Francis Guy, Printers and Publishers, Cork, 1869 [chp 1] - Buttimore -lots of Buttimer / Buttimore information can be found at Kate Press web site. - Cobh & Harbour - Misc material Link submitted by Michael Cronin to the County Cork mailing list. - Cork descriptions - An Historical Guide to the City of Dublin, Illustrated by engravings, and a plan of the city* Second Edition, with corrections and additional articles, also an Itinerary and various useful information for Tourists and Strangers. By G. N. Wright, A. M. London: Printed for Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. 1825. This site is about Dublin but the link to the page below contains some good descriptions of a few Cork towns and instructions on how to get there. Link submitted by Michael Cronin to the County Cork mailing list. - Cork Yacht Club building - which is now the Sirius Arts Centre site - includes some photos and a map of Cobh. Link submitted by Michael Cronin to Co. Cork mailing list. SHIPPING - Dorgan Arrivals from Ireland to Boston 1848 - 1891. - Passenger Shipping Between Cork and Britain. Submitted by Michael Cronin. Margaret Grogan Turner

Can anyone advise what is a '600 year counterpart lease" when dealing with property. I have just purchased an original Indenture that belonged to my GGG Grandfather from County Down, from 1858 stating that it is a Counterpart Lease for 600 years. Regards, Yvonne

Combing thru a baptismal register ca 1860s and came across 2 notations that I'd appreciate some help with. [My high school Latin books are long gone.] The names and dates were written in English. I suspect that each note indicates that the child has the same parents as the child recorded just above. [Birth dates are the same.] Here goes: EX SUPERIORIBUS AC EODIEM DIE EX IN(?) DEM Thanks. Pat Wood Family's are like fudge ... mostly sweet with a few nuts.

SULLIVAN -Dingle, Kerry to Boston, MA MEHEGAN - ? to Boston, MA PURCELL - Nenagh, Tipperary to Chicago, IL>Irish Creek, KS BRAZIL (BRAZEL) - County Clare to Chicago, IL to ?? MCNEESE - Moy, Tyrone to Fargo, ND MCCRARY - ?? to PA>NC>IN If any names and places are familiar, I'll provide dates, etc. "Everybody's Irish on St. Patrick's Day!" Liz Sullivan McCrary

This is to let the subscribers to the SHAMROCK and CountyCork lists who use msn or hotmail services know that I am getting an abnormally high number of bounces to all kinds of msn , email.msn and hotmail addresses . This started this weekend and has continued to today, including 60 just since this morning. There doesn't seem to be a pattern I can determine, and the bounces don't make sense (they are not generally full mailboxes, they are the generic "user unknown" or "cannot deliver mail" messages when isp's just go a bit nutty). Why am I sending this then? Well, if you are a user of one of these services and suddenly get no mail from lists, it might be because you get bounced off because the mail can't get through to you. Many people have already gotten bounced off unfortunately. There isn't really anything I can do about this, or Rootsweb either... you would have to check with msn/hotmail. (Webtv is owned by msn also, but those don't seem to be bouncing). This is just a heads up in case you notice something is going wrong with the amount of mail (or lack of it) you are getting. Maura Listowner SHAMROCK and CountyCork and Waterford <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints