To Jim Daly, I couldn't help but notice you are researching the surname "Gilmartin". My g grandfather's brother, Michael J. Bresnahan, married "Mary Gilmartin", in Clinton Cnty., IL. Michael immigrated from Cork Cnty., Ireland @ 1890. Could this Gilmartin be any relation to yours?: Mary Gilmartin born: 15Jan1884 (source: 1900 IL Census) birthplace: Trenton, Clinton Cnty., IL parents: Patrick Gilmartin and Bridget Gannon spouse: Michael J. Bresnahan date of marriage: 23May1911 married at: St.Mary’s Church place: Trenton, Clinton Cnty., IL Witnesses at wedding: John L. Bresnahan(nephew of the groom) and Elizabeth Gilmartin(sister of the bride) children: Infant Bresnahan(lived 1/4 hr. after birth), and possible other child born abt. Feb.1912(*note: first infant may have been born prematurely) *note: according to Jo Ann Malkin, she had twins that died at birth born: end of Oct.1912 siblings of Mary: 4 sisters:Elizabeth, Carrie, Katherine, Margaret, 6 brothers: Reverends Charles and Lawrence Gilmartin, John, James, Patrick and Thomas died: 5Nov1912(source: d.c.) age at death: 28 yrs. burial: From Sacred Heart Church(East St.Louis) to Mt. Caramel Cemetery May 23, 1911, St. Mary's Church, Trenton, Clinton County, Illinois Michaeleus Bresnahan from the place of TULLYLEASE, IRELAND, son of Johannis Bresnahan and Julia Stokes and Mariam Gilmartin from the place of Trenton, Illinois, daughter of Patritis Gilmartin and Brigitte Gannon. *note: this record from the Chancery in Belleville, IL was written in Latin. Witnesses were Johanne L. Bresnahan and Elizabeth Gilmartin.

For those of us who are still confused about the location of various Roman Catholic Parishes in Ireland, Local Ireland has just completed their collection of maps of all Roman Catholic Parishes in every County. http://www.local.ie/genealogy/family_history_maps/ Roman Catholic Parish Maps for Each County Best wishes, Tony Riordan triordan@msn.com __________________________________________________ Kerry ancestors: RIORDAN, KELLIHER, SCANLON, SHEA Waterford ancestors: BALDWIN Tipperary ancestors; REILLY, DUNBAR, HENDERSON Massachusetts ancestors: DONNELLY, CROWLEY

Hi Kathy, My heart stopped when I started to read your post. I have a John and Margaret O'Neil who finally settled in Plattsburgh, New York. I don't know where they left from, in Ireland. Long ago, my Aunt said something about County Cork, but at that time I did not care. I recently asked her about it and she can't remember (she is 80). We do know they came from County Armagh and County Monaghan because that is inscribed on their headstones in a Plattsburgh, New York cemetery. They are in the 1850 census but not the 1840. My Aunt told me she thought they came to the States during the Potato Famine, so that would be about your time frame, of 1847. The only thing, the children do not match. Their children were Owen, John, James, Patrick, Henry and Ann. I don't have an answer to your question. I am just thinking about trying to find when my O'Neils arrived and where they left from. I did find a very good website with a lot of good research help. All the information is, also, in ! a booklet at any Family History Center. I paid one dollar for mine. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/ireland.asp Patricia MaryTacoma, Washington Date:Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:15:27 -0600From:Kathy Marie Garness <kathleen656@earthlink.net>To:SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.comSubject:[SH] O'Neils: Co. Cork Looking for an O'Neil family that left Cork in 1847 bound for the UnitedStates; husband John, wife Margaret, sons John, Charles and Benjamin. Alsosome daughters: Biddy, Mary and another I can't remember right off. Is therea way to determine whether they were actually from Cork or just passingthrough on their way abroad?Thank you,Kathy --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.

Hi Kathy, My heart stopped when I started to read your post. I have a John and Margaret O'Neil who settled in Plattsburgh, New York. I don't know where they left from, in Ireland. Long ago, my Aunt said something about County Cork, but at that time I did not care. I recently asked her about it and she can't remember (she is 80). We do know they came from County Armagh and County Monaghan because that is inscribed on their headstones in a Plattsburgh, New York cemetery. They are in the 1850 census but not the 1840. My Aunt told me she thought they came to the States during the Potato Famine, so that would be about your time frame, of 1847. The only thing, the children do not match. Their children were Owen, John, James, Patrick, Henry and Ann. I don't have an answer to your question. I am just thinking about trying to find when my O'Neils arrived and where they left from. I did find a very good website with a lot of good research help. All the information is, also, ! in a booklet at any Family History Center. I paid one dollar for mine. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/ireland.asp Patricia MaryTacoma, Washington --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.

Hi List, Could someone give me an answer to this. I have a copy of 1901 Census of Ireland. The head of the family is named as James Callan, aged 76 - along with Wife, two sons, and a daughter. One of the sons is named on the bottom as being the `household of``. Although he wasn`t married - does this mean that the rest of the family were living with him in `his` house. Thanks, Maureen.

"Richard Allicock" <richwyn@idirect.com> wrote...... >Looking for any-one who has come across this name or similar sounding >variations. Thanks. ALCOCK was one of the settlers to Co. Waterford. ALCOCKE is another variation of that name. The first of that family came to Ireland with Henry II, from Surrey, England, and settled at Downpatrick. Three branches of that family are settled in Munster; Ballyhoe, co. Carlow, Wilton Castle, co. Wexford, and Dunmore, co. Waterford. There is a pedigree going up to 1887, but you don't mention what years you are interesrted in. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

Me too! Could you re-list those please? Kathy Marie Garness

Sorry - I didn't change the Subject line in my first response. This is for people who asked for the URLs to search for townlands, villages or parishes. -----Original Message----- From: suoneill <suoneill@apex.net> To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:39 AM Subject: Fw: [SH] DALY/GILMARTIN >Here is the original posting from Ellen. > >Sue O'Neill, Murray, KY >suoneill@apex.net >researching: Dillon, Redmond, Reilly, McMillan, Dinnan, Wheelan, O'Neill, >Stevenson. Clark, Miller, Marshall, Balfour, Stansbury, Pernal, Dearham, >Heffron, Healy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ellen Naliboff <enaliboff@home.com> >To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:57 PM >Subject: Re: [SH] DALY/GILMARTIN > > >>These searches allow you to locate any townland, parish or village in >>each of Ireland's thirty-two counties. >>http://www.irishplacenames.com/ >>http://www.seanruad.com/ >>Mapquest.com can get to the parish but not the townland. >>http://wwwrd.0mm.com/map019002 >>Global Gazetteer is a directory of 2880532 of the world's cities and >>towns, sorted by country and linked to a map for each town. A tab >>separated list is available for each country. >>http://www.calle.com/world/index.html >>Then, consult Lewis' Topographical Dictionary for a narrative >>description of the parish at the time of Griffith's Valuation. >>Ellen >> >> >>jdaley wrote: >>> >>> I recently obtained a death notice of an ancestor: >>> >>> Mary Daly Born 1846 DRUMONAY Ireland, Died 1917 Meriden CT >>> >>> Parents Owen Daley/Catherine Gilmartin Born DRUIMSNAY Ireland. >>> >>> Can anyone suggest where Drumonay/Druimsnay might be? My family comes >>> from the Westmeath/Offaly part of Ireland near Athlone, and I suspect >>> Mary and parents also came from there - but I haven't been able to find >>> any placename similar to the above - even searching all the counties. >>> >>> Thanks for any help! >>> >>> Jim >>> James Daley >>> Virginia >>> >>> ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >>> ** To contact the listowner send a >>> message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net ** >> >> >>==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >>** To contact the listowner send a >>message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net ** >> >> > > >==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >** To unsubscribe from this list send >unsubscribe to >SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com for >regular mode, or >SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com for >digest ** > >

Here is the original posting from Ellen. Sue O'Neill, Murray, KY suoneill@apex.net researching: Dillon, Redmond, Reilly, McMillan, Dinnan, Wheelan, O'Neill, Stevenson. Clark, Miller, Marshall, Balfour, Stansbury, Pernal, Dearham, Heffron, Healy -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Naliboff <enaliboff@home.com> To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [SH] DALY/GILMARTIN >These searches allow you to locate any townland, parish or village in >each of Ireland's thirty-two counties. >http://www.irishplacenames.com/ >http://www.seanruad.com/ >Mapquest.com can get to the parish but not the townland. >http://wwwrd.0mm.com/map019002 >Global Gazetteer is a directory of 2880532 of the world's cities and >towns, sorted by country and linked to a map for each town. A tab >separated list is available for each country. >http://www.calle.com/world/index.html >Then, consult Lewis' Topographical Dictionary for a narrative >description of the parish at the time of Griffith's Valuation. >Ellen > > >jdaley wrote: >> >> I recently obtained a death notice of an ancestor: >> >> Mary Daly Born 1846 DRUMONAY Ireland, Died 1917 Meriden CT >> >> Parents Owen Daley/Catherine Gilmartin Born DRUIMSNAY Ireland. >> >> Can anyone suggest where Drumonay/Druimsnay might be? My family comes >> from the Westmeath/Offaly part of Ireland near Athlone, and I suspect >> Mary and parents also came from there - but I haven't been able to find >> any placename similar to the above - even searching all the counties. >> >> Thanks for any help! >> >> Jim >> James Daley >> Virginia >> >> ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >> ** To contact the listowner send a >> message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net ** > > >==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >** To contact the listowner send a >message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net ** > >

Hi: I too must have missed an e-mail. What URL's were posted with regard to Townlands and Villages? Please post them again! Thanks, Janet A. Nelson nelson.js@verizon.net

Hi Folks, Looking for any-one who has come across this name or similar sounding variations. Thanks.

We are still looking for where my grandparents are from and if they have any relatives left. Thomas Conroy b. cc 1868 in Ireland his brother Michael Joseph Conroy also b in Ireland. Parents unknown. Mary Flaherty or Faherty b. 1868-70 to Michael Flaherty or Faherty and Nora Ford/e in Ireland Mary married Thomas cc 1889/90, arr together on the SS Wyoming 14th May 1890. They seem to have lived in Brooklyn at least from 1891. First child born on Wallabout st.Thomas jr, 2nd child my father Michael b. 1892 no address, then there was Nora 1894, Annie 1895, Margaret 1897{Michael Joseph's g.child} Joseph b 1901. All baptised in Brooklyn churchs. have much info forward but nothing b/4 1890, anyone that might have any knowledge on my grandparents please e mail me. Thanks Ed Conroy

I must have missed an email - what URLS were posted? Thank! melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Byrne" <fbstoddard@snet.net> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: [SH] Townlands & villages > Listers: > > Ellen Naliboff's recent posting of URLs which take you to maps, atlases > and directories of Irish placenames proved immediately and extremely > helpful. The "seanruad" site was particularly useful to me. I had > ancestors placed in the parish of Annageliffe in Co. Cavan, but the > seanruad site brought up about 40 townlands ranging from 25 to more than > 400 acres in size, and included a number of names for these townlands I > could not locate via other sources. I'm planning a September trip to > Cavan City, a few miles from these townlands, and this information alone > will let me narrow my searching, visiting and poking about to acreage, > rather than square miles. > > Excellent tool, Ellen, really excellent. Or, as they say in Cavan, > "Brilliant, Ellen, brilliant!" > Thank you on behalf of the whole list. > > Byrne (Lynch) Stoddard > Guilford, CT > (searching Lynch, Breen, Byrne, Maguire) >

Listers: Ellen Naliboff's recent posting of URLs which take you to maps, atlases and directories of Irish placenames proved immediately and extremely helpful. The "seanruad" site was particularly useful to me. I had ancestors placed in the parish of Annageliffe in Co. Cavan, but the seanruad site brought up about 40 townlands ranging from 25 to more than 400 acres in size, and included a number of names for these townlands I could not locate via other sources. I'm planning a September trip to Cavan City, a few miles from these townlands, and this information alone will let me narrow my searching, visiting and poking about to acreage, rather than square miles. Excellent tool, Ellen, really excellent. Or, as they say in Cavan, "Brilliant, Ellen, brilliant!" Thank you on behalf of the whole list. Byrne (Lynch) Stoddard Guilford, CT (searching Lynch, Breen, Byrne, Maguire)

----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Holt To: Alan O'Neill ; Antrim List ; GENIRE LIST ; IRELAND LIST ; Shamrock List ; McCready-D-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 7:58 AM Subject: Re: McCready Good Morning Listers: My Father, David John McCready was born in Belfast, N/Ireland on July 23, 1915. His father soon thereafter moved the family to Dublin, where he took a job as a Prison Warder. My father had at least 1 Brother, Samuel who later emmigrated to Australia.( Where, I have no idea. ) My Father also had at least 1 Sister, who emmigrated to British Columbia,Canada and married a Man named McDonald in Kitchener, B.C. I have no idea what my grand fathers name was. I seem to recall that My Grandmothers name was either Mary or Margaret and she was fromCounty Donegal. Unfortunately at the time my father was alive I was not into genealogy and therefore did not ask the questions that would have made my search much more fruitful. I didn't have a computer or know about the Internet until about 3 years ago and I have been out there since trying to trace my roots. My Father once told me that The McCready Clan was originally from Scotland and went into Ireland in the Army of Oliver Cromwell, where they married Irish Lasses and stayed I suspect that the Clan was based somewhere around the Londonderry or Belfast Area.as my father talked about Derry . I don't think my father and his father got along well as his present to my father on his 15th birthday was a one way ticket to Canada. I seem to hit a brick wall everywhere I go. I would be greatly appreciative if some kind soul could maybe e-mail me back with information that would help me to push down the wall and get on with my search.or at least e-mail back when I send them an e-mail. ( Jim Herlihy of La Garda etc) Thank you in advance for your help. Dave E-Mail holt1278@home.com

I don't know about U.S.A. but here in Aussie if you are entitled to a pension from your original country the government says you have to apply at the appropriate age--then they reduce the Aussie pension accordingly-- Brenda -----Original Message----- From: FFitzg7816@aol.com <FFitzg7816@aol.com> To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, 30 March 2001 10:59 Subject: [SH] Pensions Would anyone know If a person could receive social security from the USA, a pension from the U.K. and from Ireland. This is based on the person working in the 3 countries in his lifetime. Or did the 3 aforementioned countries get together and permitted only one pension be allowed. Does anyone know if this is true. Txs F.X. Fitzgerald ______________________________

Hi Tony, Thanks very much for your prompt and very informative reply. I did however slip up and stated the wrong County. The County I was interested in was Co. Longford and the area was Ballymahon. Could I pose the question again therefore to anyone who might know whether there was a British Army base in the Ballymahon area in the 1800's. Regards Wally B

Reposting my interests: BELL from Coolhill, Parish of Killeeshill, near Dungannon. CAMPBELL from Farriter, Parish of Killeeshill, near Dungannon. Both with a reference also to Pomeroy, both in Co Tyrone. Current dates are a marriage in 1877 to an emigration date of around 1903. Anyone researching these names, I would love to hear from you. Dawn, Christchurch, New Zealand

Can anyone tell me how to find out information about Sparkhall BROWN listed in the 1902 Dublin Directory as " Sparkhall BROWN esq BA, London, civil service, tutor at 20 Clare Street, res 4 Stella Terrace, Belmont Avenue, Donnybrook. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. vbgarton@bigpond.com HAYDEN. HAYES. HIGGINSON. HUGHES. MOFFETT. GAINFORT. OAKSHOTT - all from Dublin or Cork. FITZGIBBON, HURLEY, LEAHY, TARRANT, VAUGHAN - Co Cork

My research interests centre around my Daly ancestors (who were renamed O'Daly pre-1918). Originally the family were from near Oldcastle Co. Meath, Ireland, but I believe that they lost their land around 1650 following the Cromwellian transplantations. They moved to the townlands of Bocks Upper and Dunaree, Co. Monaghan, Ireland. Some emigrated to work in Leadville, Colorado and Anaconda, Montana, USA. I would be interested in hearing from anyone with (or without!) a connection. Let's find those rellies! Best wishes, David O'Daly.