I too have the name "Filo" among my ancestors. It is also spelled "Philo" in several documents. I believe the name is German in origin as my ancestors originally were born in Germany. I have seen it on several census documents for counties in New York State. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Meyers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:25 PM Subject: [SH] Nickname > Hi Listers, > > I am curious about the nickname "Filo"...would anyone know if this of Irish origin and or what it means? The man who was called this had the given name of William Henry, his mother came from Ireland, his father from Germany. Appreciate any assistance. > > Linda > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** To contact the listowner send a > message to [email protected] ** > >

Hi Listers, I am curious about the nickname "Filo"...would anyone know if this of Irish origin and or what it means? The man who was called this had the given name of William Henry, his mother came from Ireland, his father from Germany. Appreciate any assistance. Linda

Shannah, Along with T. KENNY in the James' Green establishment there were other KENNYS: Thomas KENNY a grocer in Flood St., P. KENNY a house agent in John St., lower, and PURTILL and KENNY had a grocery at 17 Parliament St. They year was 1884 (Bassett's Directory). There are a number DOYLES but they appear to be outside the parish. However, there are DOYLES buried in St. Patrick's graveyard. The earliest recorded is Joseph who died 14/9/1794. His mother and father and six of their children are buried with him (O'Dwyer's St. Patrick's gravestone inscriptions). Jim McDonald [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Shannah Griggs <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:35 AM Subject: [SH] TWISS/KENNY family in MULLINVATE Cty,, Kilkenny, Eire > Hello, Listers! > > I was wondering, if anyone on this List has ever come across a KENNY family? > > What I have is KENNY, Margaret, b. 26.08.1859, C. 1855, m. TWISS, John, Constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary, stationed in MULLINVATE, Cty. Kilkenny. Her par. were: Thomas KENNY and Catherine DOYLE. She was bapt. in St. Patrick's Church, Kilkenny, 21.08.1859. The priest was Father William HAYDEN. > > The family owned the Clarence Hotel in Waterford. It was located on the Quay up from Reginalds Tower. The properietor was Margaret KENNY. > > Margaret KENNY's family owned a general store in ST. JAMES GREEN, Kilkenny. > > If there is anyone out there, who has info. on my TWISS Family Connected to this KENNY Family, I would appreciate it very much, if, they would, please, help me. > > I, also, have Connections in Mayo, Kerry, Limerick, Clare, Galway, Dingle, Cork, Tipp., Belfast, Derry, Laois, Wicklow and Dublin for TWISS. > > If anyone has info. on any of these TWISS Branches, it would be greatly appreciated! :) > > Thank you very much. > > Shannah > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** To contact the listowner send a > message to [email protected] ** > >

Subject: Gaelic Translator? Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:06:05 +0200 Dear Mister Reddick I'm an 17 year old student from Belgium, much interested in languages. Especially old or inpiring languages (Breton, Gaelic, even Tolkiens Elvish...) That's why I also like Enya so much, for her Gaelic songs. I wondered if you could translate one of here phrases for me? Athair ar Neamh, Dia linn Athair ar Neamh, Dia liom m'anam, mo chroi, mo ghloir, moladh duit, a Dhia I would be very very very gratefull!!!!!! Thanks in advance Greets Winther Degrauwe, Belgium P.S.: Do you send me the translation or does it appear on the site?

Jan & Des at [email protected] writes: << In several, she is asked that return mail be addressed to a person in Roscrea, then later, a CONACRE postmark appears on envelpoes. >> Jan & Des, As you want a location in the Roscrea area, I think we can eliminate the homophonic townland of Coniker, up in Durrow civil parish. However, the other homophone of Conicker townland, in Ettagh CP, seems more plausible. It is located just to the north of the N 62 national road, about 3 miles NW of Roscrea town. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hope someone with local knowledge can assist. I've just received a series of letters (1855 - 1881)written to my GG Mother, Catherine Hurley, in Aus from her Mother and Brothers in Offaly, probably close to Roscrea. In several, she is asked that return mail be addressed to a person in Roscrea, then later, a CONACRE postmark appears on envelpoes. Regards Des Jan & Des Wirges - Queensland, Australia Our Pottery http://www.realtime.net/~rsdcreek/wirges.htm

I was reading the microfilm copies of the New York Times for 1882 yesterday. One item of interest was the cost of a ticket. Of course, these prices were for an outward bound voyage but it is given in US dollars. INMAN LINE ROYAL MAIL STEAMERS FOR QUEENSTOWN AND LIVERPOOL NOTICE - These steamers take the extreme southerly courses, crossing south of the Banks of Newfoundland altogether. CITY OF RICHMOND, CITY OF MONTREAL, CITY OF BERLIN, CITY OF ROME >From Pier No 36 (new number) North River Cabin passage $80 and $100 STEERAGE $28 Pre-paid $30. (I have no explanation for the discrepancy.) Red star line Belgian Royal and United States Mail Steamer Saloons, state-rooms, smoking and bath rooms amidships. Second cabin accommodations unexcelled. State-rooms all on main deck No horses, cattle, sheep or pigs carried. First cabin, $75 and $90. Second cabin $55, prepaid $55; excursion $100 Steerage $26; prepaid $24; Excursion $43.50 Cunard line NOTICE – ‘LANE ROUTE’ FROM NEW YORK TO LIVERPOOL VIA QUEENSTOWN FROM PIER NO. 40 NORTH RIVER BOTHNIA, PARTHIA, ALLIA, SERVIA Cabin passage, $80 and $100 Steerage tickets to and from all parts of Europe at very low rates. STATE LINE To Glasgow, Liverpool, Dublin, Belfast, and Londonderry From pier foot of Canal St, N.R. First Cabin $60 and $75, according to accommodation: Excursion tickets, $110 to $130, second cabin $40, excursion tickets $75; steerage outward $20. These steamers carry neither cattle, sheep or pigs. Ellen __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Are you confusing Kennys with KILkennys (of the Craigie clan), maybe? The Twiss connection is so remote as to be defunk, so cant hep you there--tho I do recall a rude schoolyard term for that lot, which doesn't bear repeating;

Mungo Pahk, I rekkon..

If you know the townland where your ancestor came from, then send a researcher into the Valuation Office in Dublin to obtain transcripts of the House Books, which cover a period pre-Griffith - perhaps only a few years before Griffith, but nevertheless, in our instance they showed all the land swapping that went on in 1847-48 after the flood of people left during the famine. These can not be photocopied. You can also ask for photocopies of the Cancelled Books. To read about the Cancelled Books and see a photocopy of a page, click here: http://server.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray/valuation_office_cancelled_books.htm Don't forget to ask for color copies of Cancelled Books, a reason which should be obvious when viewing the page at this link. Every time the observations were recorded, the changes were done in a different color. If you have b&w photocopies, you can't distinguish the column entries from one another. Good luck - some of these are a mess, but very useful. David N. Murray Email Address: [email protected]

In a message dated 10/5/02 12:03:14 PM, [email protected] writes: << What is the location in Dublin of the repository for the cancellaion books? >> I'm pretty sure they are in the National Archives in Dublin. And I think they are actually called the cancelled land books. Janet C-S

Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1 Tel: +353-1 817 1000 Fax: +353-1 817 1180 Locall: 1890 304 444 E-mail: [email protected] Ellen [email protected] wrote: >What is the location in Dublin of the repository for the cancellaion books? >Geraldine > > >==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== >** Messages to the SHAMROCK list >should be sent to >[email protected] ** > > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

James Nolan b. 1813 m. Rose O'Brien b.1812

What is the location in Dublin of the repository for the cancellaion books? Geraldine

Hello, Listers! I was wondering, if anyone on this List has ever come across a KENNY family? What I have is KENNY, Margaret, b. 26.08.1859, C. 1855, m. TWISS, John, Constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary, stationed in MULLINVATE, Cty. Kilkenny. Her par. were: Thomas KENNY and Catherine DOYLE. She was bapt. in St. Patrick's Church, Kilkenny, 21.08.1859. The priest was Father William HAYDEN. The family owned the Clarence Hotel in Waterford. It was located on the Quay up from Reginalds Tower. The properietor was Margaret KENNY. Margaret KENNY's family owned a general store in ST. JAMES GREEN, Kilkenny. If there is anyone out there, who has info. on my TWISS Family Connected to this KENNY Family, I would appreciate it very much, if, they would, please, help me. I, also, have Connections in Mayo, Kerry, Limerick, Clare, Galway, Dingle, Cork, Tipp., Belfast, Derry, Laois, Wicklow and Dublin for TWISS. If anyone has info. on any of these TWISS Branches, it would be greatly appreciated! :) Thank you very much. Shannah

To Janet C-S, Thanks so much for the "in fee L.A.P." definition. You're right; someone on the Roscommon list also found it. Thanks so much for your help. It really straightened out a puzzle. Ann in South Carolina

In a message dated 10/2/02 1:03:28 AM, Ann writes: << I could use some help deciphering three notes on 1929 Valuation Lists for County Roscommon. I'm trying to track property occupation after Griffith's. 1. Under "Immediate Lessors", what is the meaning of "in fee L.A.D."? 2. One entry has the name Patrick Morrisroe. The "Patrick" is crossed out and above it is written "John." Below the Patrick is written "(James Watt)". I understand that John replaced Patrick as occupier but what does the (James Watt) mean? 3. Under "Observations" is the note "1925 WB". Haven't a clue what that means. Any help would be appreciated. Ann in South Carolina Ann, Could only find a clue on one of your questions--- Could "in fee L.A.D."? be L.A.P.? for Land Act Purchase? When the Land act was passed in 1891, people were able to purchase their farms. sorry couldn't help more, Janet C-S

I have created a new Forum & Group for those interested in the Campbell surname and their family ties and roots, generally for those researching connections in Australia. The Group is with Yahoo, it's free to belong and join others with a "Campbell" Australian connection. The Group "IS" moderated both for membership and for email's. You can subscribe from the Web address, located at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CampbellsAustralia Or subscribe direct with email, adding the word 'subscribe' in the subject heading to: [email protected] If you would like to subscribe please be patient until the Group develops some numbers, we look forward to any new members to the Group. Best Wishes Don Johnston

Although 1929 is way after Griffith's Valuation (which ranged from 1848--1864), this excellent book about the earlier valuations may prove helpful: "Richard Griffith and His Valuations of Ireland" by James Reilly. It is available from several genealogy and Irish interest bookstores on the internet. (Try a Google search.) I highly recommend it. I'm at work right now, but I'll check when i get home and see if any of those abbreviations the lister asked about are explained, and get back to you on it. Janet C-S