Katherine: Have you searched the 1920 Census for your father? That is where you need to start. You should be able to find him as an 8 year old boy with his father and that will tell you where John Seth Shaffer was born and what year. Also will tell you all his children's names. Then you should work backwards from 1920 (1910,1900, 1880) and see what you find. The 1890 census burned and will not be accessible for the most part. Do you live near a library that has this info. If you don't let me know and I'll at least check a couple of census years for you next time I'm there. My SHAFFER's were farmers in MO also. WILLIAM SHAFFER born in 1868 in Indiana, moved to Caldwell Co. MO (just north of Kansas City) as a boy and had his 11 children there between 1890-1912. Many of them ended up raising their children (my mom's generation) in Kansas City. OOPS! Had to reopen this message and add this:: Just got your message about Birmingham MO and Monico MO Can't find them on a map anywhere. What counties are they in? Valerie Hayner Auld [email protected] Prairie Village, KS AULD,BAKER,BRADFORD,BUTLER,CORMANY,CULUMBER,FISHER,FORD,GIRTON, HALE, HAIGHT, HAYNER, HAYS, HORN, JARBOE, KINDREN, LINTON, LITTLEPAGE, NICHOLS, O'NEAL, PROBASCO, RICHARDSON, SHAFFER, VANARSDALE, VANBUNSCHOTEN, WATT, WEBSTER, WILSON, WINTERBOWER, YOUNG On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:56:15 -0500 "rshaffer1" <[email protected]> writes: >Thank you for your help. My father John Daryl Shaffer was born in >Kansas >City Missouri. His father John Seth Shaffer I do not know. I do know >that >they were farmers and my father had many siblings. My father John D. >Shaffer was born 1912, was one of the older children, that I do know. > >Thank again >Katherine Shaffer > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]