This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hGBAEB/1342.1.1 Message Board Post: Sally, The Samuel SHAFFER that is a brother to my gggrandmother she was born around 1830 in Ohio. We are not sure but we think he was born in Ohio the listing I have found show him to be an older brother. Not much help but your Sam could be a son of Samuel. Michael