This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roy Shaffer Korbel Shively. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hGBAEB/1435 Message Board Post: John L ( leroy ) Shaffer. >From Michigan born 1893 ? plus or minus. I have a Birth record of my mother Irene Evelyn Roy ( Shaffer), born 15 Jan 1918. My mother was a beautiful person. What a shame , He missed this. at this time my mother or my biological Grandfather would have been the father. Imparative i find this connection or a Picture of him.. where he was born and where he died. see birth certificate attached. Thank you very much for any and all infomation you feel free to express.