My husband's grgrandfather, John Edgar Shaffer was born in Hamburg, Germany in 1850 and from family stories came here with 2 brothers (may or may not be true) when he was about 17. He landed in NYC and settled in Allegany, New York. Vicki +++Gibson Co TN Mailing List Owner+++ Visit Gibson Co. TN homepage at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson