From: valauld Full-Name: Valerie H. Auld To: [email protected] Subject: Help Organizing my Research! X-Status: New Anyone have any suggestions on organizing?I have been doing research off and on for 15 years and have 2 huge boxes full of stuff...notes taken from people, books, etc., interviews with relatives, pictures--both old ones passed down and new ones taken at cemetaries, old houses, etc., census notes etc. etc. etc....I have a master list kept on an old Apple IIGS computer program called Family Tree by Broderbund. This has all my names, birth/marriage/death dates and places recorded, but just of my direct line. I have entered no brothers or sisters in the computer as the old Apples require you to store everything on disk, no hard drive, so you have to keep it small or else divide it up onto many disks, which becomes quite confusing. I have the program "Master Genealogist" as well as the LDS program "Personal Ancestral File" loaded on my IBM compatible, but have never GEDCOM'd off the Apple to load it in.Anyway, my question is....what to do with all this paper? Do you advise making a separate notebook on each family name or what. Anybody have a good system out there---I know I'm not the only one in this situation. I have some great research buried in these boxes and am afraid I'm wasting time redoing a lot and probably have good stuff to pass on to others, if I could just get it organized so it is usable and handy.Valerie [email protected] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello, I am looking for the Schaeffer or Schafer from Madison County Ill. My g grandmother was Karolina Schaeffer and she married Jacob Straub. I believe the Schaeffer's came to the US in the mid 1800's. Karolina was married in 1869 in Ill. She was born in Hessen Darmstadt Germany on 10/7/1847. Can anyone help me. Thanks Deborah Mueller

I recently came across info concerning William Shafer, born in Virginia in 1813. He was the son of Samuel Shafer who emigrated from northern Virginia and settled in OH. Samuel was the father of 8 children: Henry, John, William, Samuel, Daniel, Edward, Maria, and Eliza Jane. William married Elizabeth Gilbert; fathered 5 children: Elizabeth, Henry (born 10/28/1835), Jonathan R, Cornelius, and Phebe J; and died in 1855. If anyone has connections to this family, I would be glad to e-mail quoted biographies of William and his son, Henry, taken from an 1882 history. Marty Smith [email protected]

I am looking for any info on the following: Thurman B. Shaffer b. May 22, 1888 in Mi or NY. m. Dec 23, 1915 Goldie June Snyder (1892-1977). Their childern Gerald Shaffer b. 1919 m. 1948 Mary Rose Licking & Doris Shaffer b. 1922 m. 1943 Robert Folk. Thanks Larry Snyder

Hello I'm searching a Schaeffer or Shaeffer family who resided in Middleport Pa.Schuylkill County from 1820 through 1860. one son - Edward Shaeffer born June 22, 1822 in Middleport, married Roseanah Troutman on March 11, 1845. I would be please to know if any of this data connects with anyone else's search. I believe Edward's father's name was John - surname could be spelled Shafer, Schaeffer, or Shaeffer. - they don't make searching the Shaeffer's easy, do they. John supposedly died in Reading, Pa. from smallpox. Thanks. Shirley

re: Irish/ German origins -- you might gain some insight for starters from the Seminar Notice and bio below that I got the other day on GenTips-L maillist: Subject: re: Seminar List Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:06:12 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:04:45 -0800 From: The Bethkes <[email protected]> (by way of Genealogy Records Service <[email protected]>) To: [email protected] April 25, 1998 ILLINOIS Blackhawk Genealogical Society & Scott County Iowa Genealogical Society Viking Club of Moline, Moline, Illinois Speaker Henry Z Jones 8:00 Registration 8:50 Welcome and announcements 9:00 When the Sources are Wrong 10:05 Break 10:25 Tracing the Origins of Early 18th Century German Palatine Emigrant 11:30 Lunch 1:00 Saints, Sinners and an Occasional Horsethief: Some Emigrant Stories 2:00 Break 2:25 How Psychic Roots Became an 'Unsolved Mystery' 3:25 Closing Remarks Door prize drawings throughout the day. Registration is limited to 240. Registration fee is $20.00 and includes buffet luncheon. For more info call 309-787-1826 or 3309-788-0051. If confirmation wanted SASE. Quad Cities Genealogical Conference PO Box 0943 Moline IL 61266-0943 Henry Z Jones, Jr is one of genealogy's most active, energetic, and visible speakers. After his graduation from Stanford University, Hank had a twenty-year career as an actor, appearing in eight Walt Disney films and many television shows. After discovering a 1709 immigrant ancestor to Ireland from Iggleheim in the Pfalz region of Germany, his interest in the Palatine was born. Along with countless articles in major genealogical periodicals, he has authored several books, including The Palatine Families of New York - 1710; The Palatine Families of Ireland; More Palatine Families of Ireland; More Palatine Families; Westerwald to America; Psychic Roots; Serendipity & Intuition in Genealogy. This last book led to an appearance on 'Unsolved Mysteries' and prompted a deluge of mail and calls. The great response led to his newest book, More Psychic Roots: Further Adventures in Serendipity & Intuition in Genealogy. Mr Jones recently received the Award of Merit from the National Geneaogical Society "in recognition of distinguished work in genealogy". ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== // Regards, Gord Hines (Regina SK Canada) On Sat 28 Feb, 1998, DEE353 wrote: > > I'm confused......Read a couple post's lately saying their SHAFFER ancestors > came from Germany. Is it possible that SHAFFER is both German and Irish? > Always thought mine were Irish----they all married other Irish persons.

Looking for any information on my Schaeffer- Shaver line. Below is what I have so far: Direct Descendants of Joseph Schaffer 1 Joseph Schaffer b: 1671 in PALATINE AREA, GERMANY d: in PALATINE AREA, GERMANY +Unknown 2 Peter Schaffer b: 1698 in PALATINE AREA, GERMANY d: 1762 in CUMBERLAND CTY, NC +Dorothy Unknown 3 John Shaver b: 1745 in Ephrata, Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania d: March 07, 1835 in Randolph Co, Arkansas Territory (spelling changed from Schaffer/Schaeffer to Shaver...some in laws however kept their true surnames) +Mary Blackwelder b: 1750 in Pennsylvania m: 1769 in MECKLENBURG (NOW CABARRUS) Co., NC Father: Johann Adam Schwarzwalder Mother: Catron Unknown 4 Peter Shaver b: 1770 in MECKLENBURG CTY, NORTH CAROLINA d: 1835 in CLAIRBORNE PARISH, LOUISIANA +Susan Anderson? b: 1775 in KENTUCKY m: Abt. 1796 d: Abt. 1860 in BOSSIER PARISH, LOUISIANA 5 John M Shaver b: 1797 in Sumner County, Tennessee d: 1852 in Randolph Co, Arkansas +Nancy H Cook b: Aft. January 01, 1800 in Tennessee m: 1823 in ALABAMA d: Aft. January 01, 1858 in Randolph Co, Arkansas 6 Robert Anderson Shaver b: 1825 in RANDOLPH COUNTY, ARKANSAS d: Bef. 1870 +Elizabeth Johnston b: 1835 m: November 22, 1846 d: WFT Est. 1864-1929 7 Nancy Ellen Shaver b: April 05, 1847 d: April 08, 1925 +James W. Condict b: April 03, 1844 in Frankfort Co., KY m: February 14, 1872 d: March 09, 1925 in PALESTINE, RANDOLPH, ARKANSAS Father: Barm E. Condict 8 [2] Frannie J. Condict b: October 16, 1873 d: February 22, 1941 +[1] Robert D. Shaver b: September 14, 1869 m: April 22, 1894 d: January 28, 1926 Father: Peter 'Pete' Hiram Shaver Mother: Loucinda 'Cindy' Jane Waddle 9 [3] Alvin Azro Shaver b: August 13, 1897 in Ingram, Randolph, AR d: February 19, 1968 in Reynolds, Randolph, AR Buried: Palestine Cemetary - Warm Springs, Randolph, AR +[4] Mary Cassie Johnston b: September 11, 1903 in Corning, Clay, AR m: December 09, 1923 d: September 24, 1996 in Briarwood, Ripley, MO Buried: Palestine Cemetary - Warm Springs, Randolph, AR Father: Samuel Larkin Johnston Mother: Sallie Elizabeth Carter 10 [5] Glendon Lamar Shaver b: March 25, 1925 in Ingram, Randolph, AR in Palestine Communtiy Hospital +[6] Margaret Angelyne Danner b: October 02, 1927 in Batesville, Independence, AR m: November 28, 1945 in Pocahontas, Randolph, AR by A.B. (BERT) Shaver Father: Clarence Albert Danner Mother: Virgie Corona Bales 11 [7] Priscilla Angelyne Shaver b: July 31, 1952 in Conway, Faulkner, AR +[8] Gerald Monroe Vickery b: February 07, 1946 in Chicago, Cook, IL m: September 10, 1968 in Jonesboro, Craighead, AR Father: Jess Monroe Vickery Mother: Ruth Mae Wilson 12 [9] LeVonda Sue Vickery b: May 19, 1969 in Pocahontas, Randolph, AR 6 Peter 'Pete' Hiram Shaver b: December 10, 1829 in ARKANSAS d: January 11, 1912 +Loucinda 'Cindy' Jane Waddle b: Abt. June 01, 1833 in LAWRENCE COUNTY, ARKANSAS m: November 23, 1851 d: Abt. 1912 Buried: Palestine Cemetery - Randolph Co., AR Father: Henry M. Waddle Mother: Sarah 'Sally' Isabel Bigger 7 [1] Robert D. Shaver b: September 14, 1869 d: January 28, 1926 +[2] Frannie J. Condict b: October 16, 1873 m: April 22, 1894 d: February 22, 1941 Father: James W. Condict Mother: Nancy Ellen Shaver 8 [3] Alvin Azro Shaver b: August 13, 1897 in Ingram, Randolph, AR d: February 19, 1968 in Reynolds, Randolph, AR Buried: Palestine Cemetary - Warm Springs, Randolph, AR +[4] Mary Cassie Johnston b: September 11, 1903 in Corning, Clay, AR m: December 09, 1923 d: September 24, 1996 in Briarwood, Ripley, MO Buried: Palestine Cemetary - Warm Springs, Randolph, AR Father: Samuel Larkin Johnston Mother: Sallie Elizabeth Carter 9 [5] Glendon Lamar Shaver b: March 25, 1925 in Ingram, Randolph, AR in Palestine Communtiy Hospital +[6] Margaret Angelyne Danner b: October 02, 1927 in Batesville, Independence, AR m: November 28, 1945 in Pocahontas, Randolph, AR by A.B. (BERT) Shaver Father: Clarence Albert Danner Mother: Virgie Corona Bales -- Sincerely, LeVonda Smith mailto:[email protected] ***************************************************************************** Come Visit My Webpages: Arkansas' Premiere Online Bridal Directory -- http://www.fament.com/arbridal LeVonda's Family Tree -- http://www.pir8.net/levonda ~ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/m/i/Levonda-S-Smith/index.html ~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/6947 *****************************************************************************

I'm confused......Read a couple post's lately saying their SHAFFER ancestors came from Germany. Is it possible that SHAFFER is both German and Irish? Always thought mine were Irish----they all married other Irish persons.

Been a while since I posted, so will try again- Nicholas John (Johan) or John Nicholas - been found both listings, born April 27 1830, "Germany", died Nov 28 1898 - probably Trowbridge as he is bd there. Md Feb 03 1863 to Helena Doll in Long Grove, IL - also looking for where "Long Grove" was - now does not exist - but think around Shelby Co., IL. Can find nothing on him when and where he came to US - we know it was before 1863 - but not much more. Their ch: William (Wilhelm) "Willie" Shafer - b. Feb 12 1864 - d. Aug 28 1864 Long Grove Gotlieb-Gottfried "Fred" J. Shafer - b. Sep 18 1865 Neoga, IL - d. Dec 1 1871 Ashgrove Twp., Shelby Co., IL - bd St. Patrick's Cem, Trowbridge, IL John Nicholas Shafer - b. Jul 12 1868 Neoga, IL - d. June 27 1945 Effingham, IL - bd St Patrick's md Sep 26 1907 Bertha May Capps Shelbyville, IL Anna Mary Shafer - b. Sep 16 1970 Mattoon, IL - d. Mar 2 1937 Olney, IL md John J. Ohm - Apr 2 1897 Trowbridge, IL Francis Shafer - b. Dec 1 1876 - d. Feb 1 1877 - bd St Patrick's Mary Ann Shafer - b. Sep 12 1878 d. June 1941 Shelby CO., IL - md Dec 24 1899 to Joseph Oscar Lawrence in Shelby CO., IL Fritz Shafer - b. abt 1880 Name spelling for different children found as SHAFER, SHAFFER, and SCHAFER. Anything of help greatly appreciated. Glad to share info Merv

Seeking the parentage of Michael Shaffer/Shaeffer who was born January 1807 in Pennsylvania and died June 04, 1866 in Hancock, IN. His wife's name was Anna. Below is known information on their children: Children of MICHAEL SHAFFER and ANNA ? are: 2. i. JOSEPH SHAFFER, b. 1833, Ohio. ii. AMELIA A. SHAFFER, b. 1834, Ohio; m. JESSE DAWSON, June 10, 1856, Hancock County, IN. iii. WILLIAM SHAFFER, b. 1840, Ohio. iv. IRA M. SHAFFER, b. 1843, Ohio; m. (1) MARIA J. LUMMIS, March 17, 1870, Hancock County, IN; m. (2) MINERVA J. ANDERSON, May 02, 1879, Hancock County, IN. v. JOHN SHAFFER, b. 1846, Ohio. vi. ELIZA E. SHAFFER, b. April 1850, Charlottesville, IN. JOSEPH SHAFFER (MICHAEL1) was born 1833 in Ohio. He married (1) MARGARET ADKINS February 22, 1857 in Charlottesville, IN, daughter of MILTON ADKINS and PATSEY ATKISON. He married (2) SARAH E. FORT March 14, 1866. Notes for JOSEPH SHAFFER: Joseph Shaffer was a wagon and carriage maker at Charlottesville, IN and Carthage, IN. Children of JOSEPH SHAFFER and MARGARET ADKINS are: i. MILTON THAYER3 SHAFFER, b. 1858, Charlottesville, IN; m. DORA ?. More About MILTON THAYER SHAFFER: Fact 1: 1880, Lived in Ripley Twp., Rush County, IN 3. ii. MELISSA ADALINE SHAFFER, b. January 1860, Charlottesville, IN; d. December 31, 1927, Indianapolis, IN. These Shaffers were Wagon Makers and Carriage Makers in Charlottesville, IN and Carthage, IN. I'm hoping to find others researching this line. Thanks. Patrick [email protected]

I have some good leads!!!! Right now I am swamped, but the Missouri location & the name Reagan matches with a relative I talked to in Mercer Co. MO (on the MO-IA border in the center of the state). I talked with a library worker there nicknamed "Pink," who probably could tell you much more quickly than me. Try calling to get hold of her there in the county seat, can't think of the name but it is the home of Calamity Jane. Pink either married a Ragan or was before she married. I talked to a man that she introduced me to who she said in 1991 or so whas 105! My relatives went there in 1840 from Gallia County OH. Others followed. They also had Indiana connections, but my direct descendants didn't. I think the town is Princeton, MO. I can tell you alittle more later. There is a picture with one of my g-g-g-g-aunts & what must have been a family reunion. Rev. G. S. Shaffer Silver Spring MD (transplanted Buckeye) On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Valerie H. Auld wrote: > Hi Shaffer researchers! > > I am still searching for my Shaffer ancestors and thought I'd see if > anything clicks here. My g-grandfather, William Shaffer (I don't know if > he had a middle name?), was born in 1868, according to his obit in Tipton > Co. IN. My mother remembers him (she was about 8 when he died). She > remembers that he was not raised by his natural parents. He somehow as a > young boy came to Caldwell Co. MO (in NW MO) and lived with the family of > Pleasant Shaffer. > > According to his obit he had 2 half brothers, one named Amsie Warden, and > one half sister possibly named Becky. We know he was very close with > William Reagan, who is buried next to him and we believe that may be the > other half brother. > > William Shaffer married Mary Cormany in 1888 and they had 11 children, > one of whom was my grandmother. William died in Caldwell Co. MO in 1941. > > > My grandmother and her brothers and sisters said he never would discuss > his family and they were always under the impression that he was truly > born a Shaffer, but because of the lack of full brothers/sisters with the > same name it's hard to tell. I have spoken with a 90 year old man who > was the grandson of Pleasant Shaffer who remembers my g-grandfather. He > said he truly didn't know where William came from but he was raised by > Pleasant who treated him as he did his own son's. His impression was > that William may have been a nephew or some other relative of Pleasant > (but not Pleasant's son), since Pleasant also migrated to MO from IN and > maybe his mother couldn't take care of him and let Pleasant take him > (although they came to MO at different times). The other possiblity is > that he never really was a Shaffer and that in living with and being > raised by Pleasant Shaffer he just took on the last name. > > Anybody have any clues or suggestions? Anybody researching Shaffer's in > Indiana? Anybody have Pleasant in their tree? I would love help on this > mystery! > > Valerie Auld > [email protected] > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >

Hi Shaffer researchers! I am still searching for my Shaffer ancestors and thought I'd see if anything clicks here. My g-grandfather, William Shaffer (I don't know if he had a middle name?), was born in 1868, according to his obit in Tipton Co. IN. My mother remembers him (she was about 8 when he died). She remembers that he was not raised by his natural parents. He somehow as a young boy came to Caldwell Co. MO (in NW MO) and lived with the family of Pleasant Shaffer. According to his obit he had 2 half brothers, one named Amsie Warden, and one half sister possibly named Becky. We know he was very close with William Reagan, who is buried next to him and we believe that may be the other half brother. William Shaffer married Mary Cormany in 1888 and they had 11 children, one of whom was my grandmother. William died in Caldwell Co. MO in 1941. My grandmother and her brothers and sisters said he never would discuss his family and they were always under the impression that he was truly born a Shaffer, but because of the lack of full brothers/sisters with the same name it's hard to tell. I have spoken with a 90 year old man who was the grandson of Pleasant Shaffer who remembers my g-grandfather. He said he truly didn't know where William came from but he was raised by Pleasant who treated him as he did his own son's. His impression was that William may have been a nephew or some other relative of Pleasant (but not Pleasant's son), since Pleasant also migrated to MO from IN and maybe his mother couldn't take care of him and let Pleasant take him (although they came to MO at different times). The other possiblity is that he never really was a Shaffer and that in living with and being raised by Pleasant Shaffer he just took on the last name. Anybody have any clues or suggestions? Anybody researching Shaffer's in Indiana? Anybody have Pleasant in their tree? I would love help on this mystery! Valerie Auld [email protected] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Shaffer Cousins! It looks like I may have some "free" time on my hands in the next few months. I plan on updating (and correcting) the book "The Shaffer Family History" by Lee B. Shaffer which was last done (to my knowledge) in 1973. For those of you who aren't familiar with this book, it is solely the descendants of Adam Shaffer and Catherine Elizabeth Wotring of Preston County, WV. Adam was supposedly born in Germany between 1760 & 1770, married Catherine in Lehigh, PA around 1789, and came to Preston County in the early 1790's. I'm looking for any and all descendants of this couple (regardless of present surname) to help by contributing their input on this work. I can use GEDCOM files and will be happy to return GEDCOM files to those who submit one once this update is completed. GEDCOM files should show any and all descendants the submitter has for Adam Shaffer up to and including the present generation. Thanks in advance to all those who can help out. Email submissions to me directly rather than through the listserver to minimize traffic. Chuck Miller ([email protected])

I'm trying to pinpoint dates, spouses, etc. of 5great grandfather Nicholas (settled in Nazareth early 1700's), son John, and John, son John (born Sept. 1790) who married Suzanna Seyfreed. I have info on son of John and Suzanna - George Washington Shaffer (my gg grandfather) who relocated from Brier Creek, Columbia Cty., Pa to Overton, PA in 1843. Brother Jacob and wife Anna Margaret Edwards relocated to Overton area about 10-12 yrs. later. I would appreciate any info on Nicholas, John and John/Suzanna. Thanks, Bonnie Carder [email protected]

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SHAFFER, Johannes/John/Hans Rhinebeck area I have lots of Shafer info filed for families of eastern NY state..if anyone is interested in sharing. My line is Johannes Shafer, possibly m. 1st Elizabeth Daniels. Johannes m. Magdalena Feil in the 1750's. He died about 1765-66. She then married John Devoe in Rhinebeck in 1766. Children of John Devoe Charles/Carel Shaver b. 1752 (John & Elizabeth) m. Celia Radley 1776 Albany, NY d. Guilderland, Albany Co., NY? Henry b. 25 Jan 1758 Rhinebeck m. Alida Bratt Albany area ca 1783 d. 1850 Watervliet, Albany Co., NY Francis b. ca 1760 NY m. Catharine Egmont ca 1782 Albany area d. ca 1843 Berne, Albany Co., NY Catharine b. 9 Oct 1761 Rhinebeck m. Gerrit J Seger 1779 Albany d. 1853 New Scotland, Albany Co., NY Alana Bauman 830 Daisy Street SE DeMotte, IN 46310 [email protected]

I am looking for any information on Jacob and Elizabeth (Unknown) (Schaeffer) Shaffer. They had a son Henry who married Georgia May Hallstead, all residing in Luzerne (now Lackawanna) County, Pennsylvania. In this line is also the Green, Cooper and Lamoreaux lineages. Bailey Cooper and Julius Lamoreaux were in the Civil War. Bailey was with the 76th PA Volunteers and Julius was with the 15th Missouri Infantry. If anyone can help, please drop me a message at: [email protected]

I am searching for parents and other siblings of Edward Shaeffer born June 22, 1822 Middleport, Pa., Schuylkill Co. He married Rosenah Troutman on March 11, 1845 in Schuylkill County. His father's name could have been John Shafer (difference in spelling) Edward Shaeffer later resided in Centralia, Pa. He died January 8, 1892. If anyone can help me on this search, I will be grateful. I have absolutely hit a stonewall on this family. Have a great President's Day. Shirley E. Ryan [email protected]

Might anyone have a family connection to HELEN ALICE SCHAEFFER? Helen Alice SCHAEFFER b: circa 1870 -1875 d: abt 1904, Schuylkill Co., PA Married circa 1890 - 1895: Stanley PAUPPER (there is some notion his last name may have been KLEPACKI) b: unknown d: abt 1903, Schuylkill Co., PA They had 3 children: Sarah (b: 1892 - 1896; perhaps married someone named FITZ); Eleanor Alexandra (b: Mar 17, 1897 or 1900, Pottsville, Schuylkill Co., PA m: Robert MACFARLAND); Stanley (b: Aug 27, 1902) With the deaths of both parents, the 3 children were orphaned quite young & reared by an aunt who was a sister of Helen Alice's. No one in the family today can remember a name for her. The SCHAEFFERS and/or PAUPPERS might have been in the dry goods business; mercantile. Stanley PAUPPER had a shoe shop. Any help would be appreciated as this is all we have & all we know. Thanks Mary McLachlan [email protected]