Hi Mark think I may be confusing everyone, It was Hilda that was with Grace Thurtle in Cranleigh in 1911. Lilian was with Jesse and Emma Tickner in Cranleigh in 1911. By the way Ada’s death was Sep 1903, Ongar, 4a, 212 aged 33. Apologies everyone, vic in snowy Manitoba. Think the cold has affected the grey matter somewhat.